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Triumph T R Restore Project


MasterDon

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LOL what did you think?That I'd put a bloody 2c engine in this?....Ofcourse the original engine will be rebuilt and put back in again with a bigger bore and bigger pistons.I wouldn't have spent over 200k bringing down engine parts if I didn't intend to keep the original engine.

hats off for trying to restore it to the original condition as possible. :action-smiley-033:

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machang...on chinese power tools...you do get the cheaper variant and the more expensive better quality variants.

I've got a hand drill, jig saw, circular saw...all chinese brands.

For DIY usage, it's more than enough. And they do last a lot longer than one or two projects. My hand drill for instance if over 5 years old with somewhat regular usage.

If you have a good compressor, converting to air tools is another alternative cos air tools are pretty cheap. Even really good branded ones.

All you need is a decent compressor :)

Exactly my point. they are ok for small diy jobs but like MD said they do suffer a bit working 9-5 non stop. and seeing MD took 20 days to get all the rust off his car I thought maybe he could have cut it short if there were fewer "cooling down" breaks.

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This is 1954 car dude.British Leyland didn't exist back then and Triumph(Standard Mo.Co) was still a stand alone company,but the Leyland monster did eventually get it's claws on Triumph,hence the godawful TR7...

The V8's are for another project.Never even thought of putting them in the TR.That would be blasphemy.

Although I fancy myself as a decent amateur auto painter.I have left this to the pros...The tinkering is done by a specialist too.but I do own all the necessary equipment... Compressor,weld machine,Oxygen bottle,spray guns etc etc :)

The only reason I'm refraining from doing the painting on this is that this car needs to be in better than show room condition when finished,in other words,it has to be perfect...and my skills are not up to that standard yet.If it was a less err "important' car I would have done it myself...so go for it.it's not hard as it looks,but choose either painting OR tinkering,not both,otherwise you'll end up master of none....sourcing the equipment will be an expensive affair though,unless you can borrow from someone or rent.

do you mind introducing the guy to me? ......i he can work on that then definitely he has gifted hands.

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This is 1954 car dude.British Leyland didn't exist back then and Triumph(Standard Mo.Co) was still a stand alone company,but the Leyland monster did eventually get it's claws on Triumph,hence the godawful TR7...

The V8's are for another project.Never even thought of putting them in the TR.That would be blasphemy.

Although I fancy myself as a decent amateur auto painter.I have left this to the pros...The tinkering is done by a specialist too.but I do own all the necessary equipment... Compressor,weld machine,Oxygen bottle,spray guns etc etc :)

The only reason I'm refraining from doing the painting on this is that this car needs to be in better than show room condition when finished,in other words,it has to be perfect...and my skills are not up to that standard yet.If it was a less err "important' car I would have done it myself...so go for it.it's not hard as it looks,but choose either painting OR tinkering,not both,otherwise you'll end up master of none....sourcing the equipment will be an expensive affair though,unless you can borrow from someone or rent.

do you mind introducing the guy to me? ......i he can work on that then definitely he has gifted hands.

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Now THIS is a thread! How refreshing after all the crap about Hybrids, Altos, Permits and tax!!

Super Job so far MD, and Best of luck for the rest of it. I call shotgun on the first test drive! (Will happily drive if you let me! :D)

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Now THIS is a thread! How refreshing after all the crap about Hybrids, Altos, Permits and tax!!

lol! Spot on :D

Super Job so far MD, and Best of luck for the rest of it. I call shotgun on the first test drive! (Will happily drive if you let me! :D)

If 'MasterDon' is gracious enough to let you in on a test drive / shotgun opportunity: Please consider sharing the experience with us "not-so-fortunate-buggers" via youtube...

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Whoa 'MasterDon': I just noticed you have a 1st gen. Fiat 500 in the background!!

Is it in drivable nick? And if so, what's with all the hype around it? Is it really that great to drive? And what's the drive like compared to that of a similar vintage Mini? Better? Comparable?

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MD you should ditch the chinese powertools and go for a brand like makita or Bosch. They'll work happily all day and when you are done with them you can pass them on to your children. thats how good they are. chinese ones are good for small one off jobs when you are on a tight budget. in the long run the jap and german powertools are more cost effective.

Is that double wisbone I'm seeing on the front end? seems like it'll be a hoot to drive.

I do have a fairly old Bosch grinder but didn't want to give it to these guys,they break stuff easily.

Yes.should be a good drive.she was one of the fastest production cars in her time and still is being raced competitively.

MD

Since you have a compressor and if its' over 4cfm or so... you can use pneumatic grinders instead of electric ones.

Those babies don't heat up, lightweight so it's a lot easy to operate for long hours. And best of all, they are relatively cheap :)

Yo're absoloutely right,but the grinders had to be useful after they were done with the car machan,for my work sites...so had to go with electrical ones.

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hats off for trying to restore it to the original condition as possible. :action-smiley-033:

That's the intention mate.It ceases to be Triumph if I modify it in anyway,plus that sort of thing is frowned upon by the classic car clubs and the car enthusiasts in general...but I will do some very minor mechanical modifications as I intend to run this daily,more on that soon.

do you mind introducing the guy to me? ......i he can work on that then definitely he has gifted hands.

Sorry mate,but bugger is a semi retired crusty old fellow who now works exclusively for me,he and my dad go way back...I'll keep an eye out for a good tinker to send your way.

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Now THIS is a thread! How refreshing after all the crap about Hybrids, Altos, Permits and tax!!

Super Job so far MD, and Best of luck for the rest of it. I call shotgun on the first test drive! (Will happily drive if you let me! :D)

mi cars es su cars! :P

Whoa 'MasterDon': I just noticed you have a 1st gen. Fiat 500 in the background!!

Is it in drivable nick? And if so, what's with all the hype around it? Is it really that great to drive? And what's the drive like compared to that of a similar vintage Mini? Better? Comparable?

Well the engine is good,upholstery drivetrain are not.needs a paintjob....Well most of the hype around it recently was when Michael Schumacer said this was his favorite car,that's the Abarth version though and then there's the fondness people have for it being a cuddly little rear engine Italian.

I've never driven one though,and to be honest I'm not a huge fan of the 500 or the Mini,but I'm guessing the Mini would be a better drive.

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The Engine - Internals

The way one goes on repairing or rebuilding the engine depends on what type of restoration one is prepared to do.If you're like me you'd like the engine and components to be at 100% to get the maximum performence and reliability.And there are others who like to keep mechanical bits untouched or barely running condtion and concentrate on the cosmetic finish only.

Now the TR2 came with a 4 cylinder 2litre 2000cc engine.It maybe tiny compared to the Americans but it is much more efficent(for it's time) and therefore faster specially when considering the 900KG odd weight of the whole car.The standard pistons size is 83mm and two valves per cylinder.the cylinder itself originally was a 'sleeve'(liner)

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So after taking the engine apart we found the pistons to be pockmarked and chipped and the liner outsides were heavily rusted and the insides were heavily scraped.There are indications that the engine was 'seized' the last time it was started...hmm weird cos the last person to start this car was probably my father...you suck dad!

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Bare in mind the linerss and the pistons even at this state were still usable with a little bit of work.But I know from experience that in this state the car will tend to smoke heavily and there will be troubles in synching the twin carbs properly cos of this.so they had to go.

So here they are!brand spanking new pistons,liners and piston rings i got down from Moss Motors...The pistons are a full 4mm oversized from standard at 87mm.

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Along with the installing of the new sleeves the crankshat bearings,the conector rod big end bearings,valve seats etc etc were inspected and repaired.

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I can recommend Lal & Nihal at Col.10 engine rebuilds,re boring kinda stuff.They have experience with dealing with classics and most of the classic car community seem to prefer their services to others.

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@ Master Don,well done mate in restoring that car it sure please me when I see a well ket classic on the road

BTW,do you know the no of Triumoh Herald Saloons still on the road ,i only see the 3 sri coupe' version at the shows

Yeah there are quite a few running about,they're not rare cars.

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