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They can also be bought at the point that cares. I saw them in the office, but had no idea if they were good or not. They had both flavours as well.

Last year it was a buyer's market, the 2008 Prii going at under 3 million. Now you'll be lucky to buy one for less than 3.4 million. It's all market trends. Your ONLY argument in all of this the fact that you're comparing hybrids with cellphones; if you had an inkling as to how Toyota's HSD worked you'd know the system works first and foremost to ensure the battery pack's longevity. As with anything, there are times when something can fail (thus why manufacturers have MTBF and Duty Cycle ratings and all that). Having said that, had you bothered to gather some real world data on the performance of a Toyota Hybrid, you'll know they're just as reliable as any other car. There was a first hand account from a Canadian fleet owner who only runs Prii in his fleet, and even by the time he disposed of his 2nd gen models, they still had perfectly usable battery packs. And some of the cars had run in excess of 600,000kms. As for why I'm a hybrid fanboy? I don't think I am; rather I'm a fan of correcting misconceptions and mindless drivel spewed by the uninformed.

I usually think only about maintenance and reliability for my primary driver, but now that I'm on the hunt for a toy, anything goes.

For me it was never about resell value. I ran my "Vois" to the ground, literally. I would say without a doubt it is one of THE most suitable cars for our driving conditions.

Car has an ionizer built into the A/C. But sometimes it isn't enough.

wut? The 2nd generation Prii stopped being made in 2008, from 2009 on the 3rd gen took over.

So California scents is good? This will be my first purchase of an air freshner for the car; I've always enjoyed the 'car' smell of the interior, but with the new one the HV battery cooling system sucks in air from the boot and dumps it into the interior. This means I get the aroma of whatever is in there, fish, durian, and more recently the constant chemical smell of the spare wheel. Was thinking of attaching it at the inlet. I wonder if it will cause the HV pack to catch fire.

Don't forget the 4th gen. The car sale opposite my building has a brand spanking new base model (with NiMH batteries, not lithium). Waiting for an opportune time to check it out.

That sounds about right. I bought my Vios for 27.5, Sold it for 24. The phenomenon is called 'depreciation'.

I use a Mobius. Quality is pretty good at 1080/30, and the best part is that it has separate video monitor pass through which is of lower resolution. Perfect for FPV applications, nearly everyone in our club uses them on their quads and planes.

I say, do we have any VR4s here in SL?

So? You were arguing against the 3rd gen Prius, not the 1st. Don't deviate from your point when you can't support it. Also please direct me to whomever is selling their 1st gen Prius and I will buy it from them. It will be the perfect toy for me to experiment with.

Oh really? and have you been to the future to be certain of this? Also why wouldn't anyone be able to buy them? 2020 is just 4 years away.

A 260 for 4 million will be 9 years old now and in pretty crappy condition, because even the cheapest go for at least 4.2 these days. Anyone who considers paying that much money for a car nearly a decade old is a fool.

Seems to me like you should get this looked at by a dealer.

Wow this brings back memories. It's cable operated, thus the long throw. My uncle's Sunny California here in SL had it.

Don't Mazda use Toyota's HSD in their cars? If so, there's no gearbox to paddle shift with, it behaves like a CVT.

Which includes Joey fkn Tribbiani. There's a rumour Chris Harris might make an appearance, but he's more fit for 5th gear than Top Gear. Edit: just found time to read the link, looks like i was right Harris was seen at a BBC meeting recently. Looks like he, Eddie and Sabine will have to balance out the other three jokers.

He's got another 7-8K left on the tire, but that's a pretty big puncture, and together with damaged sidewall, you could easily suffer a blow out at the most inopportune moment.

What is that? Some kind of RFID transponder?

Shouldn't this topic be moved to the lounge?

Have you seen the interior? I am not digging the white bits. Every single photo and video on the internet shows a white tray and shifter trim. But I'm glad they've returned to the Generation 2 format, because that really is a pretty comfy place to be in. The white tray I mentioned above supports wireless charging, which is a pretty neat feature, but I hope the induction coil is big enough that simply placing it in the general area is good enough without having to fiddle about with alignment. Apart from all that, no one has been able to identify what changes, if any, have been made to the HSD. Currently they're just harping on about marginally improved fuel economy, but I have a feeling it's going to be the 3rd gen powertrain with firmware tweaks and minor hardware changes (at least one model will come with LiPo batteries).

I'm envious of everyone who's gotten to the CAR series.

OP, did you check the tire sidewall? I did this in my Vios when I first got it, and both tires on one side had damaged sidewalls. i.e. there was a bump on the sidewall of each tire where the reinforcement had broken and the pressure making the tire skin balloon. If there are, replace them immediately because a blow out is imminent. I ended up having to replace all 4 tires because the previous owner had mounted different brands front and rear.