PreseaLover

See that is the thing....for starters...the ones out of the factory had extra welding and other stuff for body stiffening. Most of the conversions here simply are still the pudgy barges with stiffer suspension so they ride like barges. Even then....it is still a sedan. Law of physics would beg to differ otherwise  

Tourer V and IR-V are really nice cars (in both original and proper conversion form). But again..they are not Supras..yet alone Porsches.

@tivi dont have money to buy or maintain these cars. 

@PreseaLoverto be honest a majority of the car community who are into project cars dont have money to have a surplus car for having fun. 

But somehow we manage to shoehorn our finances to accommodate these expenses. Lastly maintenance most of us handle DIY.