Hih..hih...pulsar 220 Burning ???

[Skyline R33]

I have owned a CBZ back home in the days and have ridden a variety of Bajaj, Hero Honda, TVS models in SL and newer powerful Jap models overseas. Overall I wouldn't say the quality is not that bad. You get what you pay for in the price tag. TVS was a little bit bad quality bit less resale value but they all sounded good and were very economical too. My friend had a Hero Honda CD100 (I think that's the model) which gave him 90km/l and he used to travel a lot for cheap. SL is not a rich country for every one to own Jap, Euro, Italian bikes. These serve the poor man well and give them a chance of mobility too. I don't think any bike deserves to be burnt. If you don't like it - simply walk away. If these is some manufacture default, point it out with evidence so other riders will be careful on those models. Laughing at a burnt bike and saying they are shitty is purely BS. There are times I miss my CBZ even after being on some pretty powerful bikes. Comparing to those Japs is not possible. But still I love the way she sounded and the nice memories it gave are unforgettable. May be just a personal thing for me only.

[zerocool]

This thread is like that latest ad

[Watchman]

LMFAO!!!...classic!

I'm putting this on my signature.

hehehe, thank you.. i'm honoured

[lokulamaya]

WTF!!!!!

did you step on big lump of pissu-goo this morning or something?

Dude why are u so rude ??(not just your profile picture..it's insane....... B) )

OK coming to the point well i think it's pointless to argue with u...people like u dont see the truth or hate to admit the truth......

Edited September 7, 2010 by lokulamaya

[Skyline R33]

Dude why are u so rude ??(not just your profile picture..it's insane....... B) )

OK coming to the point well i think it's pointless to argue with u...people like u dont see the truth or hate to admit the truth......

Well, I think the point others are trying to say is laughing over a burnt Pulsar or any bike is not great and trying to point out how many people have benefited from these Indian bikes being cheap, reliable and economical. So what do u suggest?

[lokulamaya]

I have owned a CBZ back home in the days and have ridden a variety of Bajaj, Hero Honda, TVS models in SL and newer powerful Jap models overseas. Overall I wouldn't say the quality is not that bad. You get what you pay for in the price tag. TVS was a little bit bad quality bit less resale value but they all sounded good and were very economical too. My friend had a Hero Honda CD100 (I think that's the model) which gave him 90km/l and he used to travel a lot for cheap. SL is not a rich country for every one to own Jap, Euro, Italian bikes. These serve the poor man well and give them a chance of mobility too. I don't think any bike deserves to be burnt. If you don't like it - simply walk away. If these is some manufacture default, point it out with evidence so other riders will be careful on those models. Laughing at a burnt bike and saying they are shitty is purely BS. There are times I miss my CBZ even after being on some pretty powerful bikes. Comparing to those Japs is not possible. But still I love the way she sounded and the nice memories it gave are unforgettable. May be just a personal thing for me only.

my friend... my tread was not intended to blash our indian bike owners..may be they went for indian products cause they didnt find any other competitive products within their budget range..but my point is if dr lorence had the guts to build the micro car company and brought it this far why any of our big time investors wont considering that ..I see a tremendous future in this area..

and yes it is true that those indian big names got distributed island wide service and dealership coverage.and also for home town guys it's a way of earning..but remember this flow of money directly move towards india..government of SL and our people will only get a minimum portion out of that...

and for the second hand market issue, well truly how many years will some body ride an Indian bike with peace of mind..1 or 2 ..may be rarely 4...that's it.. then the problem begins..the same guy will sell it cheap and buy another indian crap..like a chain it goes on and on...who get the benifit ?...that's the typical mind set of the sri lankan buyer..KMPL...KMPL...KMPL ? they dont realize from every cent that they think they save will finaly gain nothing for the country and for himself......this may be harsh..but it's the damn truth machan...

cheers...

Edited September 7, 2010 by lokulamaya

[Az]

and for the second hand market issue, well truly how many years will some body ride an Indian bike with peace of mind..1 or 2 ..may be rarely 4...that's it..

Are you sure? I've been riding the same Indian Pulsar for the past 7 years, and hadn't had any issues at all, and it looks like it would easily last another 7.

[Skyline R33]

my friend... my tread was not intended to blash our indian bike owners..may be they went for indian products cause they didnt find any other competitive products..but my point is if dr lorence had the guts to build the micro car company and brought it this far why any of our big time investors wont considering that ..I see a tremendous future in this area..

and yes it is true that those indian big names got distributed island wide service and dealership coverage.and also for home town guys it's a way of earning..but remember this flow of money directly move towards india..government of SL and our people will only get a minimum portion out of that...

and for the second hand market issue, well truly how many years will some body ride an Indian bike with peace of mind..1 or 2 ..may be rarely 4...that's it.. then the problem begins..the same guy will sell it cheap and buy another indian crap..like a chain it goes on and on...who get the benifit ?...that's the typical mind set of the sri lankan buyer..KMPL...KMPL...KMPL ? they dont realize from every cent that they save will finaly gain nothing for the country and for himself......this may be harsh..but it's the damn truth machan...

cheers...

Personally me would go for a Maruti any time over a Micro. I think the Maruti is superior in many aspects than the Micro and talking about SL gov getting money, I'm sure it will all be suked by the brotherhood so I'm not that keen to give them revenue. Even if some SL entrepreneur comes up to make bikes it will take ages to catch the Indian quality and price. Micro selling things has alot of political back ground and I'm sure many members are aware of that. I would rather buy some thing affordable and decent and ride around than worrying about SL's economic impact regards to my purchase. Look how many millions are going in Jap vehicles. Bikes are the same too.

[Chooti Putha]

my friend... my tread was not intended to blash our indian bike owners..may be they went for indian products cause they didnt find any other competitive products within their budget range..but my point is if dr lorence had the guts to build the micro car company and brought it this far why any of our big time investors wont considering that ..I see a tremendous future in this area..

and yes it is true that those indian big names got distributed island wide service and dealership coverage.and also for home town guys it's a way of earning..but remember this flow of money directly move towards india..government of SL and our people will only get a minimum portion out of that...

and for the second hand market issue, well truly how many years will some body ride an Indian bike with peace of mind..1 or 2 ..may be rarely 4...that's it.. then the problem begins..the same guy will sell it cheap and buy another indian crap..like a chain it goes on and on...who get the benifit ?...that's the typical mind set of the sri lankan buyer..KMPL...KMPL...KMPL ? they dont realize from every cent that they think they save will finaly gain nothing for the country and for himself......this may be harsh..but it's the damn truth machan...

cheers...

a true patriot u r Sir speaking on behalf of the country.....

[jdnet]

who get the benifit ?...that's the typical mind set of the sri lankan buyer..KMPL...KMPL...KMPL ? they dont realize from every cent that they think they save will finaly gain nothing for the country and for himself......this may be harsh..but it's the damn truth machan...

cheers...

eh you do know that every saved KMPL actually helps the country save it's foreign reserves right? as a non-oil producing country we need to import all our oil. Paying for the oil means more money goes out of the country thus draining our foreign reserves.

[lokulamaya]

Are you sure? I've been riding the same Indian Pulsar for the past 7 years, and hadn't had any issues at all, and it looks like it would easily last another 7.

Hats off to u sir...that's for riding a pulsar 7 years continuosly..so can u please tell me the original odometer reading? it can not be more than 120,000kms. if u by any chance achieved this odometer reading u really deserves a special price from rahul bajaj(owner of the bajaj mass) or from david peiris...so i'm preety much eager to know through out these years what is the estimated price u had to shell out to replace items.(cdi units,coils,sprockets....etc)?

[MkX]

Just curious.. The theory we talk about Jap cars Vs Indian tin cans. Can it be applied to Jap bikes Vs Indian bikes? Because I do have a brand new TVS bike at home which I tought to use once in a while. (not used though)

Edited September 8, 2010 by MkX

[lokulamaya]

Personally me would go for a Maruti any time over a Micro. I think the Maruti is superior in many aspects than the Micro and talking about SL gov getting money, I'm sure it will all be suked by the brotherhood so I'm not that keen to give them revenue. Even if some SL entrepreneur comes up to make bikes it will take ages to catch the Indian quality and price. Micro selling things has alot of political back ground and I'm sure many members are aware of that. I would rather buy some thing affordable and decent and ride around than worrying about SL's economic impact regards to my purchase. Look how many millions are going in Jap vehicles. Bikes are the same too.

well i know that initial versions of micro trend,euro 2,mpv junior had serious issues..still the mx7's are having issues even thou it has a Mitsubishi engine..(that is power of the Mitsubishi engine is way too much for the frame to handle..)also couple of friends in the SLPA told me that plastics that have used for the car are of cheap quality...(SLPA was the initial buyer of this mx7 series..i think they brought 8 or 10 cars for their engineering division)..any how these micro guys making some efforts ne machan...but having said that maruti had the luxury of setting up with the suzuki from the begining..that's how they capture the name within india.. bajaj did the same thing by collaborate with the Kawasaki..initial versions of pulsars(2001-2003)and K-Tec technology for the caliber 115 and boxer series are the collaborative effort of bajaj and Kawasaki..but what happened after that..bajaj simpley kick the ass of kawasaki and throw them out from india..(what a shame..that's what i call "kicking the ladder")..i admit that bajaj bikes that had the kawasaki technology are 100 times better than current junks..so the story continues ne machan..

and even thou maruti got the benifit of the push from suzuki they cant even come close to a quality of japaneese or european vehical..such a shame..

Edited September 8, 2010 by lokulamaya

[lokulamaya]

eh you do know that every saved KMPL actually helps the country save it's foreign reserves right? as a non-oil producing country we need to import all our oil. Paying for the oil means more money goes out of the country thus draining our foreign reserves.

u got a good point ..but in the other hand we gain nothing by importing cheap quality products without giving a try to stand up from our own feet.....

[lokulamaya]

Just curious.. The theory we talk about Jap cars Vs Indian tin cans. Can it be applied to Jap bikes Vs Indian bikes? Because I do have a brand new TVS bike at home which I tought to use once in a while. (not used though)

mmm...tvs...afraid i have to tell u the truth..it's worst than bajaj in every deparment..any how what's ur ride. apache? flame?...

you had to buy a suzuki gn125(my all time favourite)..even a recondition one you can buy around 180k to 200k...unregistered one is around 280,000 to 300,000 ..spare parts are every where and if u ask me petrol consumption..it's more than 50kmpl..i can guarantee that..so if u can sell your bike that will be the best decision u could take ..

Edited September 8, 2010 by lokulamaya

[jdnet]

well i know that initial versions of micro trend,euro 2,mpv junior had serious issues..still the mx7's are having issues even thou it has a Mitsubishi engine..(that is power of the Mitsubishi engine is way too much for the frame to handle..)also couple of friends in the SLPA told me that plastics that have used for the car are of cheap quality...(SLPA was the initial buyer of this mx7 series..i think they brought 8 or 10 cars for their engineering division)..any how these micro guys making some efforts ne machan...but having said that maruti had the luxury of setting up with the suzuki from the begining..that's how they capture the name within india.. bajaj did the same thing by collaborate with the Kawasaki..initial versions of pulsars(2001-2003)and K-Tec technology for the caliber 115 and boxer series are the collaborative effort of bajaj and Kawasaki..but what happened after that..bajaj simpley kick the ass of kawasaki and throw them out from india..(what a shame..that's what i call "kicking the ladder")..i admit that bajaj bikes that had the kawasaki technology are 100 times better than current junks..so the story continues ne machan..

and even thou maruti got the benifit of the push from suzuki they cant even come close to a quality of japaneese or european vehical..such a shame..

Wow I do hope your not in business managment or running your own business or something. You will probably be doomed. Bajaj's idea of using a more well established business in it's early run and kicking them out to stand independent was actually a great business plan. they got the technology and can now avoid most loyalties.

suzuki teemed up with maruti because they had both the capability and capacity to build cars in India whereas Micro does not. Micro is simply assembles crappy cars and probably won't ever make thier own cars. Just because micro is a local company does not mean I have to buy their crappy cars, they can earn some respect by having thier own line of reliable cars. If micro cars were good, or course I would buy one right away but the fact is they are horrible.

[lokulamaya]

Are these Indian bikes so bad as the OP states? Are they like the Maruti's of the bike world? Dunno much about bikes...

yes..they are worst than indian cars..and btw if u are to buy one it's wise to stay away from them...

[jdnet]

yes..they are worst than indian cars..and btw if u are to buy one it's wise to stay away from them...

BTW who appointed you the Indian bike and car expert? you probably haven't touched a wrench in your life. Jeez, You started a stupid thread, now admit your mistake and stop coming up with bullsh**.

Edited September 8, 2010 by jdnet

[Chooti Putha]

BTW who appointed you the Indian bike and car expert? you probably haven't touched a wrench in your life. Jeez, You started a stupid threa, now admit your mistake and stop comming up with bullsh**.

+1000

[Skyline R33]

Just curious.. The theory we talk about Jap cars Vs Indian tin cans. Can it be applied to Jap bikes Vs Indian bikes? Because I do have a brand new TVS bike at home which I tought to use once in a while. (not used though)

I would say it is a bit different when it comes to bikes than cars. Obviously Jap bikes are great machines but Indian bikes are good too, at least to a certain level. Not like the Indian cars and they are quite reliable too, specially for what you pay. Never owned any Indian cars or driven them so can't comment but IMO Indian bike quality > Indian car quality If you just got the TVS to do short trips should be ok but have heard the resale value is low. Don't worry too much about that and just enjoy your bike. Never owned a TVS but many of my mates had Victors those days. When it comes to Indian bikes, always we owned Hero Honda's and Bajaj's.

[Skyline R33]

Hats off to u sir...that's for riding a pulsar 7 years continuosly..so can u please tell me the original odometer reading? it can not be more than 120,000kms. if u by any chance achieved this odometer reading u really deserves a special price from rahul bajaj(owner of the bajaj mass) or from david peiris...so i'm preety much eager to know through out these years what is the estimated price u had to shell out to replace items.(cdi units,coils,sprockets....etc)?

I think it should be the "round head" pulsar which was the early model. I have ridden them and they were quite good. I can't see anything going wrong if it is maintained properly since had a mate who met many accidents and did stupid things with his Pulsar and it still kept going.

[Skyline R33]

well i know that initial versions of micro trend,euro 2,mpv junior had serious issues..still the mx7's are having issues even thou it has a Mitsubishi engine..(that is power of the Mitsubishi engine is way too much for the frame to handle..)also couple of friends in the SLPA told me that plastics that have used for the car are of cheap quality...(SLPA was the initial buyer of this mx7 series..i think they brought 8 or 10 cars for their engineering division)..any how these micro guys making some efforts ne machan...but having said that maruti had the luxury of setting up with the suzuki from the begining..that's how they capture the name within india.. bajaj did the same thing by collaborate with the Kawasaki..initial versions of pulsars(2001-2003)and K-Tec technology for the caliber 115 and boxer series are the collaborative effort of bajaj and Kawasaki..but what happened after that..bajaj simpley kick the ass of kawasaki and throw them out from india..(what a shame..that's what i call "kicking the ladder")..i admit that bajaj bikes that had the kawasaki technology are 100 times better than current junks..so the story continues ne machan..

and even thou maruti got the benifit of the push from suzuki they cant even come close to a quality of japaneese or european vehical..such a shame..

It's Micro's problem that they did not buddy up with some one big in the industry to get them self's established. I did not compare Maruti with Jap cars since it's comparing apples and oranges, both are in a different league. but IMO Maruti is way better than Micro. I know Maruti's are not great cars and they have so many issues but SL car industry has a long way to go to catch the Indian industry. Some things are just not suitable, same building cars are just not suitable for Micro unless they hang onto some on big. Probably they should take advantage of Geely buying Volvo and try to have a collaboration for RnD and design development. Some thing like Tata - Land Rover relationship. If the product has good quality there won't be any need for politics and restrictions to sell cars.

[xXx]

Another positive factor in the cheap and sufficient availability of these bikes and cheap cars is that it helps people travel more thus increasing their accesibility to work places, which in turn helps get the workforce where it's needed. Now had we had a better public transportation system we would not need all the bikes, cheap cars and three wheelers we see on our roads but the fact is that we don't, so people need some way to get to work on time without risking thier lives jumping from a moving bus.

Dude rememebr to bring this up when the whole gang is bashing Maruti's next time.

[lokulamaya]

It's Micro's problem that they did not buddy up with some one big in the industry to get them self's established. I did not compare Maruti with Jap cars since it's comparing apples and oranges, both are in a different league. but IMO Maruti is way better than Micro. I know Maruti's are not great cars and they have so many issues but SL car industry has a long way to go to catch the Indian industry. Some things are just not suitable, same building cars are just not suitable for Micro unless they hang onto some on big. Probably they should take advantage of Geely buying Volvo and try to have a collaboration for RnD and design development. Some thing like Tata - Land Rover relationship. If the product has good quality there won't be any need for politics and restrictions to sell cars.

as far as i know before the establishment of micro (transmec holding) dr lawrence has been associated with franchises like astron martin,mitsubishi,fiat ,volkswagon,mazda to subsequently setup the bmw franchise in sri lanka..i think in 1992 he introduced the alfa romeo from italy and they sold about 100 alfa romeos in sri lanka..so then around 1995 he got the franchise for renault heavy vehicals...and there sold about over 1000 renault units...so i think this guy had some really good connections with the big time players..but the saddest think that despite all of the connections, after the setup of micro he was only able to build a partnership with Mitsubishi china section..so then all the crappy chineese components were imported from china and assembled here in sri lanka and sold it for high tags.(under the mask of be sri lankan buy sri lankan)

so when it's comes to pricing policy i think they are well over the limit hence still people find it as a waste of money to invest for micro cars..having said so this korean sang yong connection is going very well for them now..

[lokulamaya]

BTW who appointed you the Indian bike and car expert? you probably haven't touched a wrench in your life. Jeez, You started a stupid thread, now admit your mistake and stop coming up with bullsh**.

this is a free country dude..hence i dont need ur permission to put my opinion in this forum..dont try to be another mervin silva...and talking about wrenches..well u were not even in your mother's womb when i started to touch wrenches and start to work with metals ....

Edited September 9, 2010 by lokulamaya