There Goes The German Ingenuity

[TechHater]

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/22/volkswagen-scandal-us-chief-carmaker-totally-screwed-up-michael-horn

[Kavvz]

  TechHater said:

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/22/volkswagen-scandal-us-chief-carmaker-totally-screwed-up-michael-horn

Yeap! Was super surprised and based on how the incident is panning out, it looks like it was a corporation wide cover up...very strange. Totally not what I would expect.

For those of you who want a quick overview on it all: Jalopnik has a pretty good article on the whole incident- Your Guide To Dieselgate: Volkswagen's Diesel Cheating Catastrophe

Edited September 23, 2015 by Kavvz

[coolcar]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/dKef1JFpiCA"

Edited September 23, 2015 by coolcar

[isam]

  On 9/22/2015 at 2:26 PM, TechHater said:

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/22/volkswagen-scandal-us-chief-carmaker-totally-screwed-up-michael-horn

Edited September 23, 2015 by isam

[isam]

As to why, clearly the performance (horsepower and torque) and the fuel mileage suffered significantly from engaging the emission control routines and hardware. VW has been promising and investing heavily on great performing diesels and very efficient mileage as selling points. But they couldn't meet emissions at the same time - it was a trade-off.

Edited September 23, 2015 by isam

[Kavvz]

It looks like BMW is catching some flak too: BMW Drops on Report That X3 Diesel's Emission Exceeded EU Limit...

Edited September 24, 2015 by Kavvz

[RViji]

Now the Japanese diesels are also cooperating,it seems.10 times more emissions than Lab for hiace. http://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/2016/03/05/japan-releases-nasty-diesel-test-results-germany-sits-on-them/#3974dfad2b43

[terrabytetango]

It's actually because of German ingenuity that they were able to do this for many years no? When the firmware detects the steering wheel is straight and the rear wheels aren't turning, the firmware switches to EPA mode.

[RViji]

Japanese not far behind in this,Mitsubishi face huge fines for falsifying fuel efficiency data. Hope this doesn't drive the struggling carmaker bankrupt..http://www.japantoday.com/smartphone/view/business/automaker-mitsubishi-admits-falsifying-fuel-efficiency-tests

[RViji]

What is more ingenious?

1.Doing more EGR when test mode is detected or

2. doing less EGR when conditions excluding bench usage are detected like GM does

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/2016/05/12/dieselgate-at-gm-report-finds-defeat-devices-in-opel-cars/#7b19d7ff4f3b

Anyway aftermarket EGR delete kits have been available for years,so if 2.is illegal,then these kits should be banned too

[RViji]

http://www.bild.de/auto/auto-news/abgase/das-kleingedruckte-im-dobrindt-report-45507430.bild.html

(sorry in German)

Breaking news of a prematurely leaked report in Germany. A top secret study on 53models,conducted with the transport ministry since September 2015,will release results this week. All models were within limits in lab,but some exceeded limits in street driving without "defeat" software! Actually VW is the cleanest among Euro6 engines. Looks like all these models and others with same engine will be recalled in 2017 for improvements to emissions during real road driving conditions compared to lab.