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  1. So for a spirited convo like this old times; ?BYD 

    My father has gone ninja about getting one, despite being the new hype/fad here these are common across the world and I've seen a few cross 100,000km in Nepal and Australia.

    Seal - Looks nice, very premium interior but too low for my applications

    Sealion - Very Premium, feels very well built, BUT that 1.5L on that reasonable chunk of car with a measly 18KW battery seems like a recipe for trouble, incase they sink in value at least the fuel economy must justify that (They say it's a BYD engine - though the lore is it is a hyundai engine)

    Atto 3 - Most sold from their lot apparently, common af, Seems to be the best bang for buck IMHO, Its electric since BYD is famed for that, Interior is kinda good, the thing is larger than a vezel but not too large like the Sealion, cheap mobility I guess with less things to go wrong

    Dolphin, almost a smaller atto and again too car like and not suited for my application.

    JK nailed it on the price and distribution but the only guaranteed thing here is the lot are gonna muck up the aftersales. The Kandy center staff behave like the crew from a Govt. post office.

    What are your thoughts and opinions? Could this be the next Wagon R or is this a passing fad like the Micros of 2000s-2010s?

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    2. matroska

      matroska

      Most businesses, thrive in grabbing opportunities and exploiting the tiniest loophole, and in this instance JKCG are no exception. I found it funny when people at the launch were mentioning the agent, as another reason for choosing BYD. I'm quoting someone word to word " ...positive is its imported by JKH So there's value there"

      I mean just because their supermarkets function slightly better than their main competitor  how did they suddenly become a trusted agent for EVs? Do you expect them to function any different to other agencies? 

      I do hope at least some of the 1000+ potential consumers have a means to ensure they do not end up getting screwed. At the same time, customs/GOSL need to have a proper direction than acting like headless chicken - at the moment they seem clueless (heck even with Temu/ali express packages) it's almost as if customs are like "oh um wait ...we have not decided what to do with this...so hang in there till we think of something".  They need to get their $4it together. 

    3. iRage

      iRage

      @matroska..the customs department has been one of the most questionable institutions for decades. I strongly believe it was in their (the individuals') interest to keep things foggy. 

    4. tiv

      tiv

      So as a follow up to the conversation,

      Well we cancelled the Atto3 Order,

      imho its a good car, the mother company is good enough, cars are tech laden, with the times blah blah, 

      But the reason why we let go was purely JK;


      1. Like i mentioned prior, their correspondence is abysmal, its like we beg them for the car. Given the troubled times they are having, they should at least have staff capable of comforting the blow. The cancellation itself was a 7 day operation, with a lot of begging, calling bosses, almost like a Govt. unit mission.

      2. Imagine doing that with a warranty commitment for 8 years, on a tech laden car with finicky electronics and an aging battery, hell no!

      3. The charging network, despite JK claiming to have 20 charging stations and the sheer volume of EVs being dumped into the road network, in the event that I need a charge, I might have to lay at a charging point for 2-3 hours. Even with the other charger companies

      4. Their after sales care, almost 50% members who are avid BYD fanatics have gone feral after the pathetic service centers they run, esp. the Kandy one. Lack of trained staff, poor etiquette what not.

      5. Customs matter and hype; according to my knowledge, I mean even if its 150 or 100kw the whole hoo haa is going get every vehicle pinged at the customs, and then possible recalls to customs what not. Not worth the hassle.

      6. It costs almost the same figure in fuel cost to charge these in a charging station thus..

       

      Lastly another isolated concern, the jokers at CEB have declined the on grid connections at all 3 of my properties claiming grid congestion. So end of that also.

       

      So decided to go with the flow and get down a less blingy Vezel, will be importing it myself straight from a Jap Dealer so cost wise it maybe approx 3mil more than an Atto3. 

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