Toyota Vitz

[Isuru Udana]

  On 1/27/2011 at 6:10 AM, Big_D said:

according to jaga's example, it appears that the difference between the two is just 2kmpl, and that too in rush hour traffic.

2kmpl is a big difference.

[shihanc]

Just throw your ideas guys.

I bought a vitz in Dec, 2010. It’s a 1000cc, cost me 2.3M (directly imported from Japan)...ODO say 28K. 2007/9 (new shell) winker mirrors, 8 airbags, TV, JAAI, and Auction grade 4…

Pick up:

Not so bad, but with some weight it's bit low...

Fuel:

12Km/l (in city limits)

Maintenance:

(Considering the full service)

Air filter cost VIC: Rs.2100+ / Denso: 3200+

Oil filter cost VIC: Rs.2000+

Engine oil cost Toyota (4L): Rs.3300

Everything is bit costly I guess…

Interior:

Most of the things are “in acceptable level”.

Exterior:

Neat design. 10/10

[heavyD]

  On 1/27/2011 at 6:34 AM, Isuru Udana said:

2kmpl is a big difference.

Yes. But during rush hour, where economy suffers most.

[Gayan Weerakoon]

A vitz is a Toyota your not gonna get any perfomance from this car so just go ahead and get a 1000CC vitz

[kelum_wj]

  On 1/27/2011 at 7:08 AM, Big_D said:

Yes. But during rush hour, where economy suffers most.

Agree every car's fuel economy suffers in rush hour

but think what will happen if this person go on a trip in the hilly area with the family and baggage ??

A users claims that the pickup is low with a load.Then wont the economy suffer when it have to climb hills???

[heavyD]

  On 1/27/2011 at 10:00 AM, kelum_wj said:

Agree every car's fuel economy suffers in rush hour

but think what will happen if this person go on a trip in the hilly area with the family and baggage ??

A users claims that the pickup is low with a load.Then wont the economy suffer when it have to climb hills???

Imo, if you're someone who drives outstation or lives in a hilly area, or simply drives around with the family a lot, a 1000cc or even 1300cc car for that matter, is not gonna be enough. Vitz's are just small cars ideal for city use.

[kelum_wj]

  On 1/27/2011 at 10:13 AM, Big_D said:

Imo, if you're someone who drives outstation or lives in a hilly area, or simply drives around with the family a lot, a 1000cc or even 1300cc car for that matter, is not gonna be enough. Vitz's are just small cars ideal for city use.

Buddy,

Now a person living in colombo can go on a trip to Kandy isnt it

So the what I mean is 1000cc is good for city use and if someones gonna buy a Vitz for family use go for 1300cc

[heavyD]

  On 1/27/2011 at 10:20 AM, kelum_wj said:

Buddy,

Now a person living in colombo can go on a trip to Kandy isnt it

So the what I mean is 1000cc is good for city use and if someones gonna buy a Vitz for family use go for 1300cc

What I'm saying is that the 1.0l is probably as good as the 1.3l when it comes to fuel economy. In that context, why spend an extra 300 to 400k on a car that is no better at fuel consumption but accelerates quicker? That was my initial argument.

It doesn't matter whether the owner goes to Kandy or Katharagama once in a while, cause chances are he didn't buy it for it's long distance capabilities. But if he drives outstation a lot, or lives in a area with hills or whatever, then both cars might not be sufficient as they lack in power.

[JohnGalt]

  On 1/27/2011 at 10:53 AM, Big_D said:

What I'm saying is that the 1.0l is probably as good as the 1.3l when it comes to fuel economy. In that context, why spend an extra 300 to 400k on a car that is no better at fuel consumption but accelerates quicker? That was my initial argument.

Machang, this is a very hard concept to grasp for pigeon brains I guess ...

[Gayan Weerakoon]

Cant believe you guys have some much to discuss on a puny Vitz

[kelum_wj]

  On 1/27/2011 at 10:53 AM, Big_D said:

What I'm saying is that the 1.0l is probably as good as the 1.3l when it comes to fuel economy. In that context, why spend an extra 300 to 400k on a car that is no better at fuel consumption but accelerates quicker? That was my initial argument.

It doesn't matter whether the owner goes to Kandy or Katharagama once in a while, cause chances are he didn't buy it for it's long distance capabilities. But if he drives outstation a lot, or lives in a area with hills or whatever, then both cars might not be sufficient as they lack in power.

Firstly its not 300k or 400k more.Its about 100k to 200k

for that extra price the owner gets a less nosier and more powerful engine

And of course a trip with a loaded boot and 4 people will reduce its economy

and Yes if he drives outstation a lot or lives in a hilly area both might not be sufficient as they lack in power (Agree)

Edited January 27, 2011 by kelum_wj

[kelum_wj]

  On 1/27/2011 at 11:25 AM, Gayan Weerakoon said:

Cant believe you guys have some much to discuss on a puny Vitz

[kelum_wj]

  On 1/27/2011 at 10:53 AM, Big_D said:

What I'm saying is that the 1.0l is probably as good as the 1.3l when it comes to fuel economy. In that context, why spend an extra 300 to 400k on a car that is no better at fuel consumption but accelerates quicker? That was my initial argument.

Actually I can understand your opinion that a person who buys a Vitz thinks only about the fuel economy and I respect your opinion too as you are a Pro member. But my Opinion is that spending 100k

more and getting a less nosier and more powerful engine is better. And bro less revving means less fuel consumed isnt it???

[The Don]

  On 1/27/2011 at 12:43 PM, kelum_wj said:

Actually I can understand your opinion that a person who buys a Vitz thinks only about the fuel economy and I respect your opinion too as you are a Pro member. But my Opinion is that spending 100k

more and getting a less nosier and more powerful engine is better. And bro less revving means less fuel consumed isnt it???

Kelum, First it is not 100K. The 1000CC sells at closer to 2.2 Million while the 1.3 nearly the 2.6 million mark.

Secondly this is a city car and should be viewed in that respect

Third what helps a car go up hilly slopes is not a simple matter of BHP or displacement. One of the reasons why the BHP figures of the new engines have gone down is because they develop a little more torque (I'm speaking generally, on this occasion I could be wrong), and you can always compensate for it through gear ratios.

The extra weight is probably thanks to the extra air bags !

Any way I think what we're trying to establish is if the Vitz 1000C is value for money and suitable for daily use, and whether it is worthwhile spending another 400K on a little more power.

While our discussion is probably not conclusive, I hope the OP can make up his own mind as to what is a worthwhile investment for him.

Incidentally the IKR-FE engine has been given the international engine of the year award in the sub 1L category

[kelum_wj]

  On 1/27/2011 at 1:14 PM, The Don said:

Kelum, First it is not 100K. The 1000CC sells at closer to 2.2 Million while the 1.3 nearly the 2.6 million mark.

Secondly this is a city car and should be viewed in that respect

Third what helps a car go up hilly slopes is not a simple matter of BHP or displacement. One of the reasons why the BHP figures of the new engines have gone down is because they develop a little more torque (I'm speaking generally, on this occasion I could be wrong), and you can always compensate for it through gear ratios.

The extra weight is probably thanks to the extra air bags !

Any way I think what we're trying to establish is if the Vitz 1000C is value for money and suitable for daily use, and whether it is worthwhile spending another 400K on a little more power.

While our discussion is probably not conclusive, I hope the OP can make up his own mind as to what is a worthwhile investment for him.

Incidentally the IKR-FE engine has been given the international engine of the year award in the sub 1L category

Bro,

If its 400k. Its absurd and agree its not worthwhile if its got that kind of difference

And yes the weight is because of extra air bags

Edited January 27, 2011 by kelum_wj

[The Don]

  On 1/27/2011 at 1:21 PM, kelum_wj said:

Bro,

If its 400k. Its a absurd and agree its not worthwhile if its got that kind of difference

And yes the weight is because of extra air bags

The sad thing is the actual price difference is probably only about 200K. It's because the 1.3 goes to a higher tax bracket (120% vs 90%) that there is such a price difference, plus I'm sure the dealer market also contributes.

Incidentally the Vitz also comes with the 1.5L engine though it doesn't look like anybody has bothered to import that one.

I also noticed that the 1000CC engine delivers its maximum torque at much higher RPMs than the 1.3L (6000 vs 4800 rpm) hence the noise and the revving necessary to get good acceleration.

Did somebody also notice the 2007 brand new Swift (Indian version) on AL classifieds for 1.67 million. I thought that was quite reasonable !

[BLu3HaZe]

Just to compare the new Vitz to a more known car and which most people tell not to get the 1.0L, the March K11

http://specs.cars-directory.net/~compare?ids=MzYzNDQsMTg5NDksMTg5OTksMzYzNTA=

If you check the K11, assuming the fuel and passenger weight to be same, the K11 has a better power/weight ratio than the Vitz in both 1.0 and 1.3 engines. The fuel consumption is excessive for the K11, yes, but power wise, for a family, shows the 1.3L to be better as it's too much load on the engine when 1500kg+, especially for the 3 cylinder 1KR-FE. If you travel alone on flat land, the 1L Vitz should be the most economical, even stats show that.

[heavyD]

  On 1/27/2011 at 12:43 PM, kelum_wj said:

Actually I can understand your opinion that a person who buys a Vitz thinks only about the fuel economy and I respect your opinion too as you are a Pro member. But my Opinion is that spending 100k

more and getting a less nosier and more powerful engine is better. And bro less revving means less fuel consumed isnt it???

Machan, I'm no pro member or whatever, I just hang around here cause I love cars.

Not sure about the less revs part. It does make sense though.

[kelum_wj]

  On 1/27/2011 at 3:31 PM, Big_D said:

Machan, I'm no pro member or whatever, I just hang around here cause I love cars.

Not sure about the less revs part. It does make sense though.

[kelum_wj]

  On 1/27/2011 at 1:41 PM, The Don said:

The sad thing is the actual price difference is probably only about 200K. It's because the 1.3 goes to a higher tax bracket (120% vs 90%) that there is such a price difference, plus I'm sure the dealer market also contributes.

I also noticed that the 1000CC engine delivers its maximum torque at much higher RPMs than the 1.3L (6000 vs 4800 rpm) hence the noise and the revving necessary to get good acceleration.

More revving means more fuel used isnt it?

Anyway not worth paying 400k more

[raaajit]

Thanxzz Guuyzz for sharing ur valuable ideas......

I had decided and recently brought a 2008 KSP90 a 1000 cc 1 for 23m priz tag...Which having 32k as milage...

Deal been closed.

[kelum_wj]

  On 1/27/2011 at 3:53 PM, raaajit said:

Thanxzz Guuyzz for sharing ur valuable ideas......

I had decided and recently brought a 2008 KSP90 a 1000 cc 1 for 23m priz tag...Which having 32k as milage...

Deal been closed.

Great

[nexus]

  On 1/27/2011 at 3:53 PM, raaajit said:

Thanxzz Guuyzz for sharing ur valuable ideas......

I had decided and recently brought a 2008 KSP90 a 1000 cc 1 for 23m priz tag...Which having 32k as milage...

Deal been closed.

hey good luck and all the best raaajit

[toyota sucks]

Talking about the 1L vitz

there is a 1L belta which has an additional boot too it really should have a 1.5L

When all 5 seats are occupied with adults and the additional boot full u should be Fred Flinsone to make it move.

What would toyota do next fit a motorcycle engine to their crown

[Supra_Natural]

  On 1/28/2011 at 2:11 PM, toyota sucks said:

Talking about the 1L vitz

there is a 1L belta which has an additional boot too it really should have a 1.5L

When all 5 seats are occupied with adults and the additional boot full u should be Fred Flinsone to make it move.

What would toyota do next fit a motorcycle engine to their crown

Dude, we get it... You hate toyota, its right there in your screen name. No need to keep going on like a broken record. Enough already!