Turbo Charging A Lancer Cs3

[Aneesha]

Hi guys..this is out to all the experts out there...

Thinking of buying a lancer CS3, 1600CC and doing some mods to the engine. How much do u think it will cost to get it turbo charged? A good place to get it done? and how much will it affect the fuel consumption?

[The Don]

Hi guys..this is out to all the experts out there...

Thinking of buying a lancer CS3, 1600CC and doing some mods to the engine. How much do u think it will cost to get it turbo charged? A good place to get it done? and how much will it affect the fuel consumption?

Turbo charging is not a simple matter of mating a turbo to an engine and it will just work. First and foremost you will have to figure out if your engine can handle a turbo charger. More often than not you will requite upgrades to things like conrods pistons and possibly even the block. Then of course you have to fabricate the exhaust manifold to handle a turbo charger and then in an EFI setup either get the existing ECU re mapped (which is probably not possible) or install a custom ECU so the fuel maps etc could be re mapped to work with the turbo charger. So what I am trying to say is not a simple affair and done incorrectly will drastically reduce the life span of your engine. A few tried this during the height of the drags and particularly when turbos were mated to engines which didn't come with turbos from stock the results were predictably bad on the long run (certainly increased performance for a little while).

Well some turbo setups can increase fuel economy but most are done with a focus on performance than economy.

If you are serious about these type of things spend some time researching the subject on line before creating a post here. There is lots to know and think about. There are more specialist forums on the subject of forced induction.

[Aneesha]

Turbo charging is not a simple matter of mating a turbo to an engine and it will just work. First and foremost you will have to figure out if your engine can handle a turbo charger. More often than not you will requite upgrades to things like conrods pistons and possibly even the block. Then of course you have to fabricate the exhaust manifold to handle a turbo charger and then in an EFI setup either get the existing ECU re mapped (which is probably not possible) or install a custom ECU so the fuel maps etc could be re mapped to work with the turbo charger. So what I am trying to say is not a simple affair and done incorrectly will drastically reduce the life span of your engine. A few tried this during the height of the drags and particularly when turbos were mated to engines which didn't come with turbos from stock the results were predictably bad on the long run (certainly increased performance for a little while).

Well some turbo setups can increase fuel economy but most are done with a focus on performance than economy.

If you are serious about these type of things spend some time researching the subject on line before creating a post here. There is lots to know and think about. There are more specialist forums on the subject of forced induction.

Thanks for the info bro...yap true that will have to do a loot of reading..and from what i have read so far, the CS3s block can handle abt 15psi without much mods... lets see how it goes.. cheers!!

[The Don]

Thanks for the info bro...yap true that will have to do a loot of reading..and from what i have read so far, the CS3s block can handle abt 15psi without much mods... lets see how it goes.. cheers!!

I actually read that you might also need to upgrade your throttle body, fuel rails and injectors as well, because in the end you also have different fuel requirements. My suggestion is sometimes its easier and cheaper to source a turbo charged engine that fits your car (like a 4G63 but that is probably too powerful for a FWD setup, probably a 4G93T if it fits) and incorporate it rather than trying to modify the stock engine. Particularly in newer cars the engines are built for economy using light weight materials and already running at the edge of their performance so messing around with them just don't seem to work very well. Its the same with the new Lancer Evo X, not as friendly towards modification as previous cars.

Where do you plan to source the turbo and do you have a particular model in mind?

You sometimes get complete kits like this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mitsubishi-Lancer-4G92-4G93-Turbocharger-Turbo-Kit-250P-/220866145731?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item336ca5edc3#ht_1687wt_952

Edited October 14, 2011 by The Don

[The Stig]

Thanks for the info bro...yap true that will have to do a loot of reading..and from what i have read so far, the CS3s block can handle abt 15psi without much mods... lets see how it goes.. cheers!!

15 Psi sound like its on the verge of blowing, like the don mentioned these are not performance oriented engines therefore they cant handle big amounts of pressure. If you want a higher boost level i highly suggest that you rebuild the engine using forged internals, also to add to the list of equipment you would most likely need to upgrade your fuel pump, you might have to change the clutch as well to handle the extra power.

On the question of good guys for the job there is a reputed guy called sacha in baddagana, never done any work with him but a lot of people in the forum highly recommend him. I dont have a contact number but i think "chooti putha" or "Andrew GTR" might, try and PM them.

Edited October 14, 2011 by The Stig

[Aneesha]

Yaa thats true..last thing you want is a blown engine before u start enjoying the turbo...lol

Well was thinking of e bay or singapore...but dont know the custom regulations on these... neways im really really new to the topic although the enthusiasm is there, so will really will be doing a lot of reading before getting myself into it...

[Aneesha]

15 Psi sound like its on the verge of blowing, like the don mentioned these are not performance oriented engines therefore they cant handle big amounts of pressure. If you want a higher boost level i highly suggest that you rebuild the engine using forged internals, also to add to the list of equipment you would most likely need to upgrade your fuel pump, you might have to change the clutch as well to handle the extra power.

On the question of good guys for the job there is a reputed guy called sacha in baddagana, never done any work with him but a lot of people in the forum highly recommend him. I dont have a contact number but i think "chooti putha" or "Andrew GTR" might, try and PM them.

Stig, Thanks for the info bro...So guess the best thing would be to find one of these guys, show them the vehicle n get their opinion on what needs to be changed...thanks again bro..

[nexus]

I actually read that you might also need to upgrade your throttle body, fuel rails and injectors as well, because in the end you also have different fuel requirements. My suggestion is sometimes its easier and cheaper to source a turbo charged engine that fits your car (like a 4G63 but that is probably too powerful for a FWD setup, probably a 4G93T if it fits) and incorporate it rather than trying to modify the stock engine. Particularly in newer cars the engines are built for economy using light weight materials and already running at the edge of their performance so messing around with them just don't seem to work very well. Its the same with the new Lancer Evo X, not as friendly towards modification as previous cars.

Where do you plan to source the turbo and do you have a particular model in mind?

You sometimes get complete kits like this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mitsubishi-Lancer-4G92-4G93-Turbocharger-Turbo-Kit-250P-/220866145731?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item336ca5edc3#ht_1687wt_952

just in curiosity The Don if the op replace the engine can suspensions handle new engine weight after some time?.

[CyRaX]

15 Psi sound like its on the verge of blowing, like the don mentioned these are not performance oriented engines therefore they cant handle big amounts of pressure. If you want a higher boost level i highly suggest that you rebuild the engine using forged internals, also to add to the list of equipment you would most likely need to upgrade your fuel pump, you might have to change the clutch as well to handle the extra power.

On the question of good guys for the job there is a reputed guy called sacha in baddagana, never done any work with him but a lot of people in the forum highly recommend him. I dont have a contact number but i think "chooti putha" or "Andrew GTR" might, try and PM them.

Sacha Peries right? Op here you go 0777390559

Edit- If he hasn't changed the number this should be it

Edited October 14, 2011 by CyRaX

[Schiffer]

im sorry,, but why dont you directly buy a car with a Turbo charger? O.o isnt that more easy and safe?

[Aneesha]

Thanks guys.. hmm going through all the info it certainly seems that buying a car that has built in turbo is hassle free n safe option..guess it would have to be a subaru in that case...

n CyRax, thanks for the number bro..certainly would give him a buzz n see..

[The Don]

just in curiosity The Don if the op replace the engine can suspensions handle new engine weight after some time?.

You are right nexus, that could be an issue. So springs and shock absorbers might need to change too. Having said that from 1600CC to 1800cc or 2000cc the weight increase should be relatively low (I am guessing about 10-20Kg) and the stock suspension might be able to cope with that.