Question Regarding Service of a Toyota VITZ 2017 From Laughs Car care?

Optimus3000 · April 9, 2018

Guys,I wanna know your opinion on doing first vehicle service from Laughs car care as the purchased company gave first 3 services free of charge.
(Toyota VITZ 2017 KSP 130; Reconditioned; ,Mileage 6000Km )

questions

1.What is the Recommended brand of Engine oil and type of Oil filter for a toyota vitz KSP 130 which need to be replaced at first service?
2.What are the other things to be done at first service other than changing engine oil/filter and engine clean up during first service?

Thank you

Twin Turbo · April 9, 2018

What ever you do, Don't wash the engine,.. If your car is an Auto ,as modern auto's don't have a dipstick you might want get the fluid level/condition checked. but it's best to let someone qualified to do the job.

Edited April 9, 2018 by Twin Turbo

Optimus3000 · April 10, 2018

On 4/9/2018 at 10:38 PM, Twin Turbo said:

What ever you do, Don't wash the engine,.. If your car is an Auto ,as modern auto's don't have a dipstick you might want get the fluid level/condition checked. but it's best to let someone qualified to do the job.

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Thank you bro.but particularly i wanna know about Recommended category of Toyota engine oil (I.E SAE 5W-30 or SAE 10W-30 ) and type of Oil filter and other things to be done at first service?
I'm gonna get the service done by Laughs car care

iRage · April 10, 2018

On 4/9/2018 at 3:28 PM, Optimus3000 said:

(Toyota VITZ 2017 KSP 130; Reconditioned; ,Mileage 6000Km )
1.What is the Recommended brand of Engine oil and type of Oil filter for a toyota vitz KSP 130 which need to be replaced at first service?
2.What are the other things to be done at first service other than changing engine oil/filter and engine clean up during first service?

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ASSUMPTION: Your car has the actual mileage and has not been tampered with.

1. "GOOD" engine oils are not that widely available in SL....Are you plannign on going natural or synthetic or a semi-synthetic (there are plenty of threads that discuss the three type so please do a search)?

Most of what we get are the low to mid ranged ones even from the reputed manufacturers. Most go for the so called "Toyota" oils. Please remember Toyota does not make oil..they buy it from someone else and re-brand it as Toyota recommended oil. In Japan they use "Castle" which you don't get in SL....so you can go with the "Toyota" oil or look in to something like LiquiMoly, etc...

As for the oil weight...the W part of the grade does not necessarily apply to us in SL..so essentially you are looking at both 30 weight oils in both cases you stated. In Japan they probably used 20...but in SL that would be too light ? 30 would work..depending on how you use your car you might even want to look in to 40.

Filter : You can go for the "Toyota" genuine filter (again...Toyota buys it from another manufacturer and reboxes it. However, there are lot of fake "Genuine Toyota" filters so watch out....you can also buy an OEM filter like ViC (which in certain cases seem to be better than the "Toyota" filter itself)

2. Well...look at the other fluids....make sure they are properly topped up. You can ask them to do a visual inspection of the brake pads, joints, boots, belts, etc...wash up the undercarriage (I personally oppose to them spraying random stuff on the undercarriage which the service guy claims to be lubricants, cleaners, etc...most of them smell like they have high a concentration of kerosene oil or something of the sort which are bad for the rubber bits..so never underestimate the power of water)

In Japan things like the engine coolant and brake fluid get changed every two years and power steering fluid checked and replaced if needed during the shaken inspection (road worthy inspection), so you do not see those items in the service schedule of Japanese vehicles; whilst in Vietnam, Indonesia and Tanzania they were part of the service schedule every 20K or 30K service. Since your car is still "new" you probably won't have to worry about these (*note assumption).

Optimus3000 · April 10, 2018

On 4/10/2018 at 2:34 AM, iRage said:

ASSUMPTION: Your car has the actual mileage and has not been tampered with.

1. "GOOD" engine oils are not that widely available in SL....Are you plannign on going natural or synthetic or a semi-synthetic (there are plenty of threads that discuss the three type so please do a search)?

Most of what we get are the low to mid ranged ones even from the reputed manufacturers. Most go for the so called "Toyota" oils. Please remember Toyota does not make oil..they buy it from someone else and re-brand it as Toyota recommended oil. In Japan they use "Castle" which you don't get in SL....so you can go with the "Toyota" oil or look in to something like LiquiMoly, etc...

As for the oil weight...the W part of the grade does not necessarily apply to us in SL..so essentially you are looking at both 30 weight oils in both cases you stated. In Japan they probably used 20...but in SL that would be too light ? 30 would work..depending on how you use your car you might even want to look in to 40.

Filter : You can go for the "Toyota" genuine filter (again...Toyota buys it from another manufacturer and reboxes it. However, there are lot of fake "Genuine Toyota" filters so watch out....you can also buy an OEM filter like ViC (which in certain cases seem to be better than the "Toyota" filter itself)

2. Well...look at the other fluids....make sure they are properly topped up. You can ask them to do a visual inspection of the brake pads, joints, boots, belts, etc...wash up the undercarriage (I personally oppose to them spraying random stuff on the undercarriage which the service guy claims to be lubricants, cleaners, etc...most of them smell like they have high a concentration of kerosene oil or something of the sort which are bad for the rubber bits..so never underestimate the power of water)

In Japan things like the engine coolant and brake fluid get changed every two years and power steering fluid checked and replaced if needed during the shaken inspection (road worthy inspection), so you do not see those items in the service schedule of Japanese vehicles; whilst in Vietnam, Indonesia and Tanzania they were part of the service schedule every 20K or 30K service. Since your car is still "new" you probably won't have to worry about these (*note assumption).

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Thank you for sharing your expertise.In fact,its a comprehensive explanation which cleared all my doubts as i was skeptical on my first Car service .

tcfern1 · September 15, 2018

I have toyota vitz 2015.i recently bought it and used for about 500 km without engine oil change.then i replaced engine oil with 0-20 toyota oil.after the change i am feeling a jerks when driving below 40 kmph but before oil change there were no jerks.seek expert advice

Twin Turbo · September 15, 2018

Chang to a higher viscosity?

tcfern1 · September 15, 2018

On 9/15/2018 at 11:17 AM, Twin Turbo said:

Chang to a higher viscosity?

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Current milage is 15300 km if assumed genuine.can the engine oil viscisity has any effect on this jerky movement.at low speeds in city traffic.no jerks when drivining in highway speeds

gdgy · September 16, 2018

On 4/10/2018 at 2:34 AM, iRage said:

In Japan they probably used 20...but in SL that would be too light ? 30 would work..depending on how you use your car you might even want to look in to 40.

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What's the reason for this? Why shouldn't one run it on the same 20 weight oil it used to run in Japan. What are the reasons and benefits we could gain from moving to a higher viscosity oil?

tcfern1 · September 16, 2018

Which will cause more engine vibration?

iRage · September 16, 2018

On 9/16/2018 at 4:41 AM, gdgy said:

What's the reason for this? Why shouldn't one run it on the same 20 weight oil it used to run in Japan. What are the reasons and benefits we could gain from moving to a higher viscosity oil?

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Ambient temperature and driving conditions can have...uhhh...a "thinning" effect on oil ? So in slow moving traffic for prolonged periods of time in high temperature areas can cause the engine to start making slight knocks, etc..because the oil thinned out.

Perhaps a person good in chemistry can explain better ?

tcfern1 · September 17, 2018

On 9/16/2018 at 3:27 PM, iRage said:

Ambient temperature and driving conditions can have...uhhh...a "thinning" effect on oil ? So in slow moving traffic for prolonged periods of time in high temperature areas can cause the engine to start making slight knocks, etc..because the oil thinned out.

Perhaps a person good in chemistry can explain better ?

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Today i changed engine oil from 0-20 to 5-30 toyoyota oil.now there are no jerks during low speeds.so it is good to use higher viscosity grade in 3 cylinder cars instead of 0-20 oil.

Thanks for your advice