Toyota Fortuner

[shane6399]

Hey Guyz...

I hav a Mazda 3.. i'll be sellin it soon... abd i hav used a lot of carz.. but i hav never used SUVs...

So I thougt of goin 4 a Toyota Fortuner... Is it gud.. or r there any better ones that Fortuner....

Plz.. I need experts' advise....

[Pericles]

Hey Guyz...

Is it gud.. or r there any better ones that Fortuner....

I dunno about the if it is good, but there is always gonna be something better. Depends on what u wanna do with it? Off-road, soft road, heavy duty suspension for normal road travel, road presence?

[streetKIA]

Anyone know how much this costs? It looks identical to the hilux. Im not a huge fan of the looks, its rather bland.

[shane6399]

I dunno about the if it is good, but there is always gonna be something better. Depends on what u wanna do with it? Off-road, soft road, heavy duty suspension for normal road travel, road presence?

For everything.........

[GTAm]

For everything.........

I think you're about to make a mistake dude. You'll miss the great ride and agility of the Maz. Not to mention the Japanese build quality....the Fortuner comes from Thailand. The interior will not match the quality of the 3.

Furthermore you'll be alarmed by the on road behaviour if you are sensitive to that sort of thing. The Mazda has fully independent rear suspension derived from the Ford Focus 2, widely regarded as the best car in that class.

The Fortuner is a truck in a dress. Try not to be fooled.

[Hola]

The Fortuner is just a 2800cc dieasel engine right? Will it have preformance? This is not a SUV type is it..more off to a pickup

[Duncan]

Hi there

Comparing an SUV to a car is like chalk and cheese. So don't attempt this comparison.

The Toyota Fortuner is one of the very first products to roll out from Toyota's new "Global Manufacturing Centres". The vehicle along with the new Hilux is built in Thailand, South Africa and Argentina each production centre specialising in a certain area of the overall production. As these vehicles are produced for the gloal market (which includes Japan) the build quality is second to none.

As for the vehicle itself, well it is a very capable off-roader with respectable on road manners. Very practical too compared to some of the other offerings in the same market segment. Certainly not a soft roader like its little brother (RAV4), at the same time not harcore like its bigger brother (L/Cruiser). Though based on the new Hilux frame the suspension is more adopted to a comfortable ride and handling.

There are several power plants in offer for this vehicle with the biggest being a V6 4litre motor. I am not sure as to what is available in SL as I don't live there. But having said that, the diesel motor is also quite capable with good torque.

In this day and age most SUVs are part off road and part on road wise. Not specialising in any one area due to market demands. So don't expect it to be a good ole 4x4.

As for pricing, I am not sure as what it would cost in SL. But in other markets the Fortuner has been hailed for being value for money.

In my personal opinion it is a very good vehicle coupled with Toyota reliability, build quality and resale value. In this market segment, considering the competetion, I would go for the Fortuner.

Cheers

[satan 06]

VFM........I dont think so!!!

it costs 8million + i sl that is brand new !!!

but no diesel only the 2.7l petrol,4pot,automatic is available in sl

we gve up the idea of owning one coz the litre of petrol just came to 105rs

Edited September 1, 2006 by satan 06

[Duncan]

VFM........I dont think so!!!

it costs 8million + i sl that is brand new !!!

but no diesel only the 2.7l petrol,4pot,automatic is available in sl

we gve up the idea of owning one coz the litre of petrol just came to 105rs

Damn !!

Cars certainly are expensive in SL. But the fact remains, the Fortuner is keenly priced in other markets. But then again this applies to all other makes and models keeping the status quo.

In our market (SA), the full spec (leather) with maintenance plan V6 4L 4x4 we pay Rs.5mil with local taxes inclusive. Thats b/new off the show room floor with registration.

Also the smallest engine we get is a 3L diesel.

SL petrol too is very high in comparison to us. We pay Rs92 but this is inclusive of 3rd party insurance.

Despite the above, if you can afford it, go for it.

[Hola]

8 million? For this? Another 20 and its a prado

[Duncan]

8 million? For this? Another 20 and its a prado

Brand new Prado??

[Morgoth]

Brand new Prado??

Wtf?? Brand new Prado is 20million? That can't be man, that's plain robbery.

[Hola]

Wtf?? Brand new Prado is 20million? That can't be man, that's plain robbery.

Brand new Prado??

Sorry, i meant 20laks more and you can get a brandnew Prado. A prado starts from 109laks the last time i checked

[SpeedHolic]

VFM........I dont think so!!!

it costs 8million + i sl that is brand new !!!

but no diesel only the 2.7l petrol,4pot,automatic is available in sl

we gve up the idea of owning one coz the litre of petrol just came to 105rs

well firstly the 2.7l 4 pot 16V engine is a lump of sh*t , after 4000rpm its like a dead donkey, on stock settings you cant move the jeep forward even an inch on second gear and even firat gear gradients are somewhat of a struggle, second gear stop start gradients result in clutch smoke... attribute this to the fact that the bosy is way to heavy for the engine.. wen you opent he engine compartment, there is enough space to slot another engine in.,, mind you i have a toyota prado though with the same engine, but i drove a fortuner the other day and its not comfy even the prado is not compared to some of the other jeeps i have had or been in.. very hard suspension plus its not very stable on bumpy roads at high speed or siad differently it tends to bounce alot and since it has long supension travel you feel like your being throwm towards the moon...

plus fortuner is auto it has 2 channel ABS drum at the rear.. and limited options.. ie not a lot of car for 80,000 US$

[Duncan]

well firstly the 2.7l 4 pot 16V engine is a lump of sh*t , after 4000rpm its like a dead donkey, on stock settings you cant move the jeep forward even an inch on second gear and even firat gear gradients are somewhat of a struggle, second gear stop start gradients result in clutch smoke... attribute this to the fact that the bosy is way to heavy for the engine.. wen you opent he engine compartment, there is enough space to slot another engine in.,, mind you i have a toyota prado though with the same engine, but i drove a fortuner the other day and its not comfy even the prado is not compared to some of the other jeeps i have had or been in.. very hard suspension plus its not very stable on bumpy roads at high speed or siad differently it tends to bounce alot and since it has long supension travel you feel like your being throwm towards the moon...

plus fortuner is auto it has 2 channel ABS drum at the rear.. and limited options.. ie not a lot of car for 80,000 US$

Which SUV's are you comparing to?

Very few markets get the 2.7 plant.

Why would you want to stop start on 2nd gear?

The Fortuner is more off-road capable than most others in its segment. Thus the hard suspension. This is exactly why it has a long suspension travel.

[SpeedHolic]

Which SUV's are you comparing to?

Very few markets get the 2.7 plant.

Why would you want to stop start on 2nd gear?

The Fortuner is more off-road capable than most others in its segment. Thus the hard suspension. This is exactly why it has a long suspension travel.

Well i own and drive a 2005 Toyota Prado, i think the reason for the 2.7L is due to tax reasons though i am not sure...

As for the stop start it tends to happen whilst in traffic, had a diesel prado and a 2.7L santa fe before and both these could get off in second no prolems at all. anyway thats a driving style issue so faorgwt that..

since this dude wants to buy it here, the probability of him using it off road in next to nothing.. thereby off road prowess is off no use , on road behaviour is what counts, and trust me on our bumpy roads sitting in the back of this thing is extremely uncomfortable.

So like you said it probably is capable off road, but as luxury vehicle i would say a big NO. plus its 80,000US$, thats crazy for a luxury vehicle with limited options and an uncomfortable ride...

I am looking forward to selling my prado by the end of this year, and hopefully can get down a Toyota Cygnus.. any comments on this jeep Duncan,

Thanks

[ThilakR]

Anyone know how much this costs? It looks identical to the hilux. Im not a huge fan of the looks, its rather bland.

Hi,

We got one for our company and it cost 9.8m with VAT.

It is a nice vehicle with VVTI 2.7 motor. Does about 7Km per Liter city and 10K m per liter outstations.

Best

Thilak

[SpeedHolic]

Hi,

We got one for our company and it cost 9.8m with VAT.

It is a nice vehicle with VVTI 2.7 motor. Does about 7Km per Liter city and 10K m per liter outstations.

Best

Thilak

dunno man, its just not worth 9.8 million....

[noaim]

I am looking forward to selling my prado by the end of this year, and hopefully can get down a Toyota Cygnus.. any comments on this jeep Duncan,

Thanks

Last i heard Toyota Cygnus was 14Mill, and the guy was paying 12,000+ a day on lease!

[Gummybr]

Hi,

We got one for our company and it cost 9.8m with VAT.

It is a nice vehicle with VVTI 2.7 motor. Does about 7Km per Liter city and 10K m per liter outstations.

Best

Thilak

9.8m with VAT?? Must be a Prado 2.7l you are talking about.

Dont think so my friend. Its 8.0m last I checked was 7,975,000/= or some thing like that.

Must tell you guys that although it looks nice on the outside the engine is an old type.

Fuel consumption may be correct for that sort of engine, but since the Prado also has a version with the same engine it is very lethargic cos it cant pull the weight of the big heavy vehicle.

I would say a new RAV4 will be a better bet because its new its bigger than the pld one and for me better looking inside out than the Fortuner and think it will perform better as well.

[Duncan]

Hi SpeedHolic

It is a pitty that vehicle pricing in astronimical in SL. No matter what 8mil is way too much. As I said earlier, we pay less than 1/2 that for the top end Fortuner. But then again, won't this pricing apply to other makes and models? I am not sure as I don't live there.

As for the Cygnus it is a huge, but great vehicle. Plenty power, plenty room, plent comforts, plenty everything. But in this market segment, if off-roading is not the primary concern, then there are other equally well speced makes and models available. If you are thinking of buying b/new, then rumour has it that an all new cygnus is due for release in 2007.

As for lil_shane an SUV is totally different to a car, no matter which SUV you look at. This is why I said there is no comparison. What you need to do is look at why you need an SUV and then determine where you are going to spend most of your time driving it. If it is on road than off-road, then base your decision on that. Select a few models that suits your budget and then test drive them before making the final decision. Also taking into consideration reliability track record, after sales service availability and resale value.

If you are attracted by the size,and height attributes of an SUV as compared to a car and you really don't want to do any serious off-roading, then there are 2wd versions of certain SUVs available. The Montrero comes to mind. Sames specs as the 4wd version.

Cheers

PS some friends just returned from a 22,000km trip through the African outback in four stock Fortuners, each carrying close to a ton of stuff. Absolutely no problem!

[SpeedHolic]

Hi SpeedHolic

It is a pitty that vehicle pricing in astronimical in SL. No matter what 8mil is way too much. As I said earlier, we pay less than 1/2 that for the top end Fortuner. But then again, won't this pricing apply to other makes and models? I am not sure as I don't live there.

As for the Cygnus it is a huge, but great vehicle. Plenty power, plenty room, plent comforts, plenty everything. But in this market segment, if off-roading is not the primary concern, then there are other equally well speced makes and models available. If you are thinking of buying b/new, then rumour has it that an all new cygnus is due for release in 2007.

As for lil_shane an SUV is totally different to a car, no matter which SUV you look at. This is why I said there is no comparison. What you need to do is look at why you need an SUV and then determine where you are going to spend most of your time driving it. If it is on road than off-road, then base your decision on that. Select a few models that suits your budget and then test drive them before making the final decision. Also taking into consideration reliability track record, after sales service availability and resale value.

If you are attracted by the size,and height attributes of an SUV as compared to a car and you really don't want to do any serious off-roading, then there are 2wd versions of certain SUVs available. The Montrero comes to mind. Sames specs as the 4wd version.

Cheers

PS some friends just returned from a 22,000km trip through the African outback in four stock Fortuners, each carrying close to a ton of stuff. Absolutely no problem!

Hi duncan,

Thanks for the quick reply, it was fortunate that you told me about the new model due in '07 beacuse our moronic agents had no idea that it was due, they simply said no new model sir... disgusting.. anyway. i do buy brand new hope it wount set me back too much, because the agents offered me 8.5 mill for my prado, its done 35,000km now and will do probably 40,000 by the end of the year, i think its quite a good deal, as i bought it under our old tax regime and payed the vance couple of days before the tax hike therby i paid 6.6 mill and two days after i paid my advance it was valued at 8.8 or something, so i saved a lot and am actually making a profit after using it for two years.

but it look like taxes are gonna go up in the near future and new prado with the 4.oL V8 plant is 14.0mill here b\new.. so i am wondering what the 4.2L cygnus will cost, its becoming a bit worrying cause i love the Cygnus and have wnated one all these years, plus duncan i will have to get a petrol engine one and with our fuel prices going through the ruddy roof... maybe its not that viable but, then the nissan pathfinder looks good and have yet to see one here... gonna check on those prices next week...

duncan point of reference,

Discovery Series 3 - 17 Million Rs

Range Rover 4.6 HSE - 25 Million Rs

Porsche Cayenne Turbo - 28 Million Rs ( dont even ask me about the Turbo S)

this are the trends in prices and these are all for petrol engines the diesels are double the effective tax on these vehicles.

hope you get an idea of what a rip off it is...

[Pericles]

U forgot the Commander that was looked at. 14mill, was it?

[Duncan]

point of reference,

Discovery Series 3 - 17 Million Rs

Range Rover 4.6 HSE - 25 Million Rs

Porsche Cayenne Turbo - 28 Million Rs ( dont even ask me about the Turbo S)

this are the trends in prices and these are all for petrol engines the diesels are double the effective tax on these vehicles.

hope you get an idea of what a rip off it is...

Good God!!

That is astronomical.......we pay Rs11mil for the full spec Supercharghed Range Rover Sport. Yet we complain!!

[SpeedHolic]

Good God!!

That is astronomical.......we pay Rs11mil for the full spec Supercharghed Range Rover Sport. Yet we complain!!

thats not fair man, i love the rangy even more, in black with the optional 20's

uuuhhhhhhhh

i would be able to afford it if i lived there....

guess u cant have everything in life...