A Guide to Peugeot. Motion & Emotions... Indeed

[fiat fan]

Looks like I seem to have taken over the title to the only active member with Peugeots. Honourable mention @AVANTE. Hopefully did not miss anyone else.

Peugeot offers good value for money and are loaded with toys. but regular maintenance is required and sometimes can be pricey. Very nice to drive safe cars. Not for faint hearted as these do like to throw issues. Mostly electronic issues, which turn out to be easy cheap fixes. but time and expertise is required.

NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR A 121/ALLION OWNER LOOKING TO GET "PRESTIGE" ON A BUDGET. SORRY

 

Since I'm bored, I decided to make a comprehensive study on the French fry AKA Peugeot.

Covering Peugeots from the 90s to current models. Mainly talked about are 206,406,407,508,3008,5008 as these are common cars for us.

 

Let's start with the Negatives first.

Posting in table format for easy reference.

PRICES ARE IN LKR AND BASED ON SRI LANKAN RATES AT THE MOMENT. WILL BE CHEAPER OVERSEAS.

I will make edits or changes with time if required.

I do not take responsibility on anything and claim to be an expert. Compiled from experience and help from Peugeot Technicians.

Some of these negatives apply to all Euros and even some modern Japs.

	Negatives	Fixes and avoidance guide	Average cost
1	Electronics are questionable	Biggest let down. Come to think of it, All euro cars have rubbish electronics. Will leave you stranded more than once if you don't rectify asap. had to learn the hard way. At least the wires don't melt like my Alfa 156.	tops at around 100k
2	Complex suspension	Good handling and comfy. But like all euros they are expensive and complex. Ride smooth. Slow down for pot holes/bumps. 407 had some fancy suspension and was known to wear out faster.	150k to 500k
3	Interior dislikes hot climate	Get good quality tinted(50K) done. Use a windscreen shade when parked. Avoid parking under direct sunlight for extended periods. Replacement parts are actually very cheap. Unlike bmw spares, that cost the sky and melt if you even stare too hard.	50k
4	parts are expensive depending on the location and accessibility	In Sri Lanka parts are often more costly and bit low in stock. Malaysia & Dubai stock for cheap. Ali Express.com has OEM parts for cheap with shipping to Sri Lanka.
5	Needs specialised technicians	Like all euro cars. Everyday bush mechanics do more harm than good. Company is subpar in Sri Lanka. Prices can be a hit or miss from them.
6	Engines from BMW MINI (Prince THP) are troublesome	Fun and very rev happy. sounds good. can do anything from 4kmpl to 15kmpl depending on the driver. Best avoided. If buying. Make sure engine has been overhauled with the corrected parts. HP fuel pump/injectors are known to fail also.	Injectors-35k. HP pump-250k.                                             Overhaul cost-400k plus
7	AL4 gearboxes are troublesome.	Solenoids are known to fail. Not too hard a fix. Expertise needed. Regular preventive maintenance is key to no issues.	50k
8	Paint can be hit or miss	Paint can fade/bubble over time. Rust is also sometimes found. Garage usage is advisable. Company rates are ok. But needs to be micromanaged	16k to 400k
9	Periodic timely maintenance is a must (not a negative, but Lankans think it is)	Maintenance must be done on time. Cannot leave behind for later. Esp 5w30 Oil is expensive in Sri Lanka for unfathomable reason. Older cars can use regular synthetic oil and full service cost is on par with japs. Filters are cheap and plentiful. Oil can be bought cheaper overseas.	10k-175k for full service in Sri Lanka Includes gear/brake/coolant fluid change
10	3rd party spare are not common	Cheap non oem parts are hard to find and easily perishable. Advice not to use non oem parts.
11	1.2 pure tech engines issues	Powerful and fun. Sound good. Will be worn out faster because turbo & small engine works harder than higher capacity engine. This is relevant to all small turbo engines from any manufacturer. Will need overhaul by 200k.  ALSO SOME ENGINES HAD TO BE OVERHAULED AROUND 30K DUE TO DESIGN FAULT. DONE FREE AT AGENT UNDER WARRANTY. MAKE SURE THIS WAS DONE BEFORE PURCHASE.	500K UPWARDS
12	3008/5008 Power steering rack	Was changed free at agent under warranty. Was partly due to bad driving/roads. CHECK BEFORE PURCHASE	250k upwards

 

 

RUNNING REPAIRS AND SUCH.

Very similar in price to other brands.

THIS TABLE IS ACTUALLY FOR 1ST TIME PEUGEOT BUYERS. PRICES ARE NOT SCARY AS THEY SAY. WILL ALSO HELP 206,406,407 OWNERS NO DOUBT.

Intervals have been posted after getting recommendations from several experts who work on PEUGEOT. Intervals may vary and should use caution always.

May have missed some. This table is for Peugeots from the 90s onward.

Part/s	Price (LKR)	Interval (KMs or time)	Advisory
TIRES	20k to 75k	Depends on tire. Usually 45k kms.	Tires cost the same as other Japs & Euros. Use softer tire because suspension can be damaged with hard tires. Dunlops are a good balance between price and quality.
Brake pads	7k to 20k	Last long really.  Usually every 40k kms.	Available from 3rd party junk to brembos. My 508 cost 16k a pair in todays prices.oem. not bad at all. 406 and them still cost under 10k. Depends on driving habits.
Brake discs	10k to 60k	Same as above	Unless a stone or something scratches the discs, they last long and don’t screech. Of-couse brakes depend on the driving habits.
Any Filter	2k to 5k	Every 10k for oil filter. Cabin/Fuel filter every 20k or as advised.	Easily found.
AUTOGear oil	25k-100k	Older pugs I’d say at least every 25k. Newer pugs say lifetime but I’d say every 40k -80k to be sure.	Overseas it’s 20K MILES for older pugs and 50-80K MILES for newer. But in Lanka better change bit earlier because of harsh conditions. Lifetime oil is bs. Newer pugs need 4 Litres of gear oil that cost about 80k.
Engine oil (older pugs)	10k- 20k	For older non turbo cars. every 10k if synthetic or 5k for mineral oil.	Cost the same as an average car. No any special recomendations.
Engine oil (newer pugs)	50k average	508,3008,5008 and other newer models. Every 10k. Please do this ritually or you will have problems.	Esp 5w 30 is recommended. But please check with agent/ booklet to make sure. Mobil 1 or Total is recommended.
AC GAS	10k to 75k	Re-gas as neccesary. or check every 2 years.	R-134A (or HFC-134a) for most cars before 2016. Cost peanuts to gas. The post 2016 onwards it was mainly R-1234YF (or HFO-1234yf) gas. Now that’s expensive. About 50k usually. Check under hood to confirm type. This Is also the same as any brand.
Clutch			@AVANTE I need help on this
Brake fluid	5k	Every 2-3 years is what’s followed in Lanka. So far no horror stories.	If you use brakes a lot due to racing or traffic. Better go case by case basis.
COOLANT	25k max	Every 5 years. Almost never changed in Lanka. Some might change even sooner.	Water is not ok. Use a reputed brand. STR sold in supermarkets is water with green dye. Ask me how I know.
SPARK PLUGS	2k to 6k each	Pug recommends 45K kms. Can attest to that.	Cleaning and checking won’t hurt I’d say.
Ignition Coils	10k upwards each	Check every 20k. Lankans change when busted only. Usually can run for 5 years.	Buy and keep from overseas as is very cheap there.
Battery	40k to 125k	Battery prices are crazy now. Used to be half this. I’d say with prices now, run it dry.	Don’t let that mfr die. Expensive af. My 508 cost me 68k for a new brand. Amazon is about 90k.
Shock absorbers.	15k to 45k	Inspection is the best identifier	Wide variety. Can even be rebuilt which I don’t prefer. But not too bad really.
Axle oil seals	25k	leaks gear oil. common issue after about 10 years. easy fix	needs some disassembly to fix. so better to use qualified technician.

to be updated.

( WARMLY WELCOME TO ALL COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, CRITICISM ETC. 😊 )

Edited February 28 by fiat fan
ADDING MORE INFO EVERY TIME

[fiat fan]

So the car (508 1.6thp) went through some repairs recently. Prices as of 2024 feb from the main Peugeot parts dealer in Lanka.

Head gasket 24500
Crank bolt 4500
Oil filter 4200
Crank oil seal 8500
Gear box mount 29500
Axle boot 5950
Coolant hose 14500
Oil return pipe 22500
Air filter 6500

Brake oil 4500 
coolant 4000

Head bolt kit 16,500

Gear oil (Genuine) - 80,000

Engine oil: Mobil esp 5w30- 35,600 (from daraz) usually abt 9500 a liter

Axle oil seals- 5,000

 

Another price update (508 1.6thp)

Engine bottom mounts-35,000

New solenoids and misc on starter motor-18,000. New motor is 100k plus.

A/C Blower unit- 85,000. Ouch

Cooling fan- 105k. Got me a mint recon from dubai for 45k.

Edited March 23 by fiat fan

[harshansenadhir]

On 2/28/2024 at 10:35 PM, fiat fan said:

So the car (508 1.6thp) went through some repairs recently. Prices as of 2024 feb from the main Peugeot parts dealer in Lanka.

Head gasket 24500
Crank bolt 4500
Oil filter 4200
Crank oil seal 8500
Gear box mount 29500
Axle boot 5950
Coolant hose 14500
Oil return pipe 22500
Air filter 6500

Brake oil 4500 
coolant 4000

Head bolt kit 16,500

Gear oil (Genuine) - 80,000

Engine oil: Mobil esp 5w30- 35,600 (from daraz) usually abt 9500 a liter

Axle oil seals- 5,000

Not too bad. What was the labor and was it from the main dealer ?

[fiat fan]

10 hours ago, harshansenadhir said:

Not too bad. What was the labor and was it from the main dealer ?

It was from N.I in panchi.

Labor was 15k for all (guy I know who works at the dealer)

I don’t even look at crapmart after they ruined my paint and doors.

[harshansenadhir]

On 3/6/2024 at 11:56 PM, fiat fan said:

It was from N.I in panchi.

Labor was 15k for all (guy I know who works at the dealer)

I don’t even look at crapmart after they ruined my paint and doors.

quite reasonable considering cost of living these days. never looked at dealer except when getting some minor accident repairs for 407 and buying small bits and pieces (engine cover retainer clips and door window guide for 406 which was nowhere to be found). Test drove 508 back then but didn't move into, rather walked away from the brand. 

[fiat fan]

On 3/12/2024 at 5:55 AM, harshansenadhir said:

quite reasonable considering cost of living these days. never looked at dealer except when getting some minor accident repairs for 407 and buying small bits and pieces (engine cover retainer clips and door window guide for 406 which was nowhere to be found). Test drove 508 back then but didn't move into, rather walked away from the brand. 

Agreed not bad at all. The agents are absolute trash. 
 

I remember reading that thread of you test driving one. Nice cars but can be finicky if neglected.

[fiat fan]

Another price update (508 1.6thp)

Engine bottom mounts-35,000

New solenoids and misc on starter motor-18,000. New motor is 100k plus.

A/C Blower unit- 50k as told. Will update.

Cooling fan- 105k. Got me a mint recon from dubai for 45k.

 

Mine is going through a full mechanical restoration due to being parked for months on end and a rat attack. Almost two months now. So far runs like a dream, Electronics are being looked into atm.

Please use a covered garage and never let it sit on rain when possible.

Also try to drive these cars as much as possible. Mine drove < 5000kms in 2022 and 800kms in 2023, that did not end well. 

The more you drive the less it actually goes wrong. Guy I know has a 3008 with 25k thats a real leda goda, another fella with a 100k plus 3008 runs like a biatch. 
 

Some parts mentioned were replaced for preventive maintenance.

[harshansenadhir]

On 3/18/2024 at 10:44 PM, fiat fan said:

Another price update (508 1.6thp)

Engine bottom mounts-35,000

New solenoids and misc on starter motor-18,000. New motor is 100k plus.

A/C Blower unit- 50k as told. Will update.

Cooling fan- 105k. Got me a mint recon from dubai for 45k.

 

Mine is going through a full mechanical restoration due to being parked for months on end and a rat attack. Almost two months now. So far runs like a dream, Electronics are being looked into atm.

Please use a covered garage and never let it sit on rain when possible.

Also try to drive these cars as much as possible. Mine drove < 5000kms in 2022 and 800kms in 2023, that did not end well. 

The more you drive the less it actually goes wrong. Guy I know has a 3008 with 25k thats a real leda goda, another fella with a 100k plus 3008 runs like a biatch. 
 

Some parts mentioned were replaced for preventive maintenance.

 

You're now stimulating the soft spot I had towards 508 but the premature engine wear and tear still keeping me away from that gen of Peugeots. Big mistake by reducing the pot capacity and trying to yank out more power. 

 

Also this reminded me of a 607 which only had 16k on odo sometimes back and a guy had jumped in thinking it's a minter since low mileage. ended up fixing almost all the car due to various issues. Personally I don't prefer low mileage cars rather will go for decently driven yet well maintained specimens. 

[fiat fan]

On 3/20/2024 at 5:23 PM, harshansenadhir said:

 

You're now stimulating the soft spot I had towards 508 but the premature engine wear and tear still keeping me away from that gen of Peugeots. Big mistake by reducing the pot capacity and trying to yank out more power. 

 

Also this reminded me of a 607 which only had 16k on odo sometimes back and a guy had jumped in thinking it's a minter since low mileage. ended up fixing almost all the car due to various issues. Personally I don't prefer low mileage cars rather will go for decently driven yet well maintained specimens. 

They are really nice cars. The 2015 3008 and the 508 really is above the 06/07 series.Electronics are the main let down tbh.

The 2.0 Diesel version is actually very solid. Less issues overall compared to the petrol by a long shot. Owners hang on to them though. Very reliable and efficient on fuel.

The 1.6THP is troublesome, but the drive makes up for it. That creamy torque really makes it a blast. Just drove from Kalutara to Kandy,such a pleasure. Ate the hills up no problem. Key is to getting a rectified 1.6THP

Also it did 15kmpl on the freeway. 100kmph smooth driving.

Your advice and input on Pugs are very much appreciated. After all you were the resident Peugeot guru on AL!!!