Runing Car With Water

[Tilak]

Hi friends, I am regular veiwer of this site though not actively participate in discussions. The contributions from all you guys are very valuble & learning a lot about autos.

I have seen some sites claiming that fuel consumption of any internal combustion engine can be improverd by adding water to the inlet manifold in the form of HHO. Some info I have copied & pasted below.

Copied from http://water4gas.com

"Do You Want To Know RIGHT NOW How You Can Drive Around Using WATER as FUEL and Laugh At Rising Gas Costs, While Reducing Emissions and Preventing Global Warming?

100% "water cars" and "water trucks" are still on the drawing board - but I'm excited to show you how you can start RIGHT NOW how to use to...

VERY LITTLE WATER is needed...

1 quart/1 Litre of water (see photo) may last for MONTHS of driving (900 miles in my experience). How come? That's because this small device forces each Gallon of water to expand into gigantic proportions: 1833 Gallons of combustible gas!!!

Here's the best-kept secret the energy lords have been keeping from you about Hydrogen-On-Demand:

WHY COMPRESS HYDROGEN IN DANGEROUS HIGH-PRESSURE TANKS WHEN IT IS ALREADY "COMPRESSED" IN PLAIN WATER - AND CAN BE EASILY AND SAFELY RELEASED??!

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I would like to know whether anybody have any firsthand info or experience on this.

Thanks for you valued contributions & think this is a timely topic to discuss. (Could not find similar discussions in the forum)

[Watchman]

I dont know anything beyond O'level chemistry but i dont think its as simple as it sounds.. plus if this hydrogen conversion/extraction doesn't hapen properly you'll end up with flooded cylinders, and that aint good

[Gummybr]

Hi friends, I am regular veiwer of this site though not actively participate in discussions. The contributions from all you guys are very valuble & learning a lot about autos.

I have seen some sites claiming that fuel consumption of any internal combustion engine can be improverd by adding water to the inlet manifold in the form of HHO. Some info I have copied & pasted below.

Copied from http://water4gas.com

"Do You Want To Know RIGHT NOW How You Can Drive Around Using WATER as FUEL and Laugh At Rising Gas Costs, While Reducing Emissions and Preventing Global Warming?

100% "water cars" and "water trucks" are still on the drawing board - but I'm excited to show you how you can start RIGHT NOW how to use to...

VERY LITTLE WATER is needed...

1 quart/1 Litre of water (see photo) may last for MONTHS of driving (900 miles in my experience). How come? That's because this small device forces each Gallon of water to expand into gigantic proportions: 1833 Gallons of combustible gas!!!

Here's the best-kept secret the energy lords have been keeping from you about Hydrogen-On-Demand:

WHY COMPRESS HYDROGEN IN DANGEROUS HIGH-PRESSURE TANKS WHEN IT IS ALREADY "COMPRESSED" IN PLAIN WATER - AND CAN BE EASILY AND SAFELY RELEASED??!

END of PASTE

I would like to know whether anybody have any firsthand info or experience on this.

Thanks for you valued contributions & think this is a timely topic to discuss. (Could not find similar discussions in the forum)

This was checked with experts in the Automobile field and found to be a bogus claim. Checked this with a German BMW technician when this came up for discussion on the forums sometime back and he says that its not possible to do so yet.

He however said that they have done some research on hydrogen powered but not water.

First look at it will tell you its easy but there is a bid process involved.

[Tilak]

I have checked few other sites too. Apperantly you can run the car, but it is not practical & economical. Because cost of breaking H2O) To HHO is costly it seems & Some sites say that the car will run for about 1 -2 km &the battery will be dead as the currunt drawn for making HHO is very high. The whole claim appear to be bull as you are using water & after combustion what you get again is also water hence violates Energy laws.

But their appear to be some truth in that you can improve the gas consumption if you can add controlled amount of HHO to intake air. But this cannot be so simple as there has to be a balance in energy used for breaking water & advantage on additional km per litre. I am not sure but thought sombody in the forum might have given some insights.

Thanks for the contributions.

[Tilak]

An Artical from www.engadget.com is appended below;

Genepax shows off water-powered fuel cell vehicle:

It looks like Japan's Genepax has now made some real progress on that front, with it recently taking the wraps off its Water Energy System fuel cell prototype. The key to that system, it seems, is its membrane electrode assembly (or MEA), which contains a material that's capable of breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen through a chemical reaction. Not surprisingly, the company isn't getting much more specific than that, with it only saying that it's adopted a "well-known process to produce hydrogen from water to the MEA." Currently, that system costs on the order of ¥2,000,000 (or about $18,700 -- not including the car), but company says that if it can get it into mass production that could be cut to ¥500,000 or less (or just under $5,000). Head on past the break for a video of car in action courtesy

For more info Pl visit. They have shown some pictures of prototype.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_...0080613/153276/