miniace Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 The full entry list of constructors and drivers as published by the FIA is as follows McLaren Mercedes 1 Jenson Button (GB) 2 Lewis Hamilton (GB) Mercedes Benz GP Limited 3 Michael Schumacher (D) 4 Nico Rosberg (D) R*D B*LL Racing Renault 5 Sebastian Vettel (D) 6 Mark Webber (AUS) Ferrari 7 Felipe Massa (BR) 8 Fernando Alonso (E) Williams Cosworth 9 Rubens Barrichello (BR) 10 Nico Hulkenberg (D) Renault 11 Robert Kubica (PL) 12 Vitaly Petrov (RUS) Force India Mercedes 14 Adrian Sutil (D) 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi (I) STR Ferrari 16 Sebastien Buemi (CH) 17 Jaime Alguersuari (E) Lotus Cosworth 18 Jarno Trulli (I) 19 Heikki Kovalainen (FIN) HRT Cosworth 20 Karun Chandhok (IN) 21 Bruno Senna (BR) BMW Sauber Ferrari 22 Pedro de la Rosa (E) 23 Kamui Kobayashi (J) Virgin Cosworth 24 Timo Glock (D) 25 Lucas di Grassi (BR) MINIACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniace Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 Former GP2 driver Karun Chandhok, has today been announced as Bruno Senna's team mate in the second seat at HRT Formula 1. The HRT team, previously known as Campos Meta, are expected to officially reveal their new branding at a presentation in Spain later today. Chennai Born Chandhok is the second ever Indian to drive an F1 car. MINIACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pericles Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 miniace said: Former GP2 driver Karun Chandhok, has today been announced as Bruno Senna's team mate in the second seat at HRT Formula 1. The HRT team, previously known as Campos Meta, are expected to officially reveal their new branding at a presentation in Spain later today. Chennai Born Chandhok is the second ever Indian to drive an F1 car. MINIACE Too bad. He was amusing doing star sports commentaries. Specially the way he keeps correcting Steve Slater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniace Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 Pericles said: Too bad. He was amusing doing star sports commentaries. Specially the way he keeps correcting Steve Slater Yeah..Star Espn fans are missing a lot. MINIACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isurujosh Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 this is the most impressive list in modern F1 times. only missing component is kimi. anyway i am a schumacher man. i have high hopes for him. i hope brawn delivers the car to him, like he has always done in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis_Pil Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Correction Steve Slater misses a lot miniace said: Yeah..Star Espn fans are missing a lot. MINIACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunat Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 i'm probably going to get flayed by the local Tifosi for this: http://www.ferrari.com/English/News/Pages/...la_campana.aspx Just reading the wording shows that they have no respect for the new teams attempting to join F1, and of course still blame Max Mosley vehemently. Looks like Ferrari (to date, the most favoured team in FIA) is going down the path of petulant child because it doesn't like new blood in F1! (ie. competition, albeit weaker) I wonder if FOTA will act on this- even though it is clear disrespect Ferrari is showing in explicitly name-calling other teams...but i won't be surprised if FOTA have been bullied into silence. For a team/company that has been involved in racing for half a century, this is such very ugly behavior. Disappointing. From antics of last season, and how the pathetic politics are shaping up even before the first race has been run, i can see foresee this season being a lackluster one, dominated with off-track childish bickering than the focus on-track. Don't get me wrong guys- i love the car...and relish the experience of being in one. But this really is unworthy behavior from what should be a seasoned veteran. Where's the simple spirit of competition?!! Show respect to smaller companies that are brave enough to try competing- i doubt many of us fans would dispute that we need more teams to add some spice to what has become a big boys playground...If they are not worthy, let it be determined on-track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniace Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 Any idea why Force India failed to recruit Indian drivers? MINIACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isurujosh Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) miniace said: Any idea why Force India failed to recruit Indian drivers? MINIACE becuase VM has a good vision for FI team beyond that of a rediculously ethnically pure one like now busted US F1 team wanted to be. Edited March 6, 2010 by isurujosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isurujosh Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 i am not local tifosi. infact what a shame it would be to be called "local" tifosi. that is like admitting to italian superiority. i hate ferrari. they are now an increasingly racist outfit. but on the latest comments by ferrari on new teams i have got to agree with them. what a shame it would be to see a car that is 2-4 seconds slower than the fastest car per lap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAm Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 How are they racist? Is there any such reference in that article? Besides those small teams are struggling to make it. It's such a shame to see the big manufacturers (BMW, Toyota and Honda) leave. It's great to see the Lotus name back though. I hope they are competitive. Anyway all I can say is that this has all the makings to be one hell of a season!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLM Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 (edited) With all due respect, it's silly to say that Ferrari are racist because they don't believe that the new teams belong. While I do support the addition of the new teams, I do see their point because the new guys are so woefully under prepared and so far off the pace of the established teams. The FIA really did a terrible job in the vetting process and also with the time-frames they gave these guys to prepare. They picked USF1 over Prodrive and Lola for God's sake! Prodrive has been running top class manufacturer programs for years and had been trying to break into F1 before this plan for 4 new teams came about. I guess Peter Windsor and Ken Anderson did a better job with their PowerPoint presentation than David Richards could manage. And Lola are one of the world's leading single-seater constructors and they had a chassis ready before these new teams did. I think the Ferrari vs FIA war last year put to bed the theory that the Scuderia were favoured sons. We read the English-language media which is dominated by the Brits so it's pretty obvious that these theories are promoted and they're absolute bullshit IMO. They are the senior team and they carry a certain weight but thinking that they run FOTA or can influence the FIA into doing anything is a bit far fetched. Edited March 7, 2010 by KLM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAm Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 KLM said: With all due respect, it's silly to say that Ferrari are racist because they don't believe that the new teams belong. While I do support the addition of the new teams, I do see their point because the new guys are so woefully under prepared and so far off the pace of the established teams. The FIA really did a terrible job in the vetting process and also with the time-frames they gave these guys to prepare. They picked USF1 over Prodrive and Lola for God's sake! Prodrive has been running top class manufacturer programs for years and had been trying to break into F1 before this plan for 4 new teams came about. I guess Peter Windsor and Ken Anderson did a better job with their PowerPoint presentation than David Richards could manage. And Lola are one of the world's leading single-seater constructors and they had a chassis ready before these new teams did. I think the Ferrari vs FIA war last year put to bed the theory that the Scuderia were favoured sons. We read the English-language media which is dominated by the Brits so it's pretty obvious that these theories are promoted and they're absolute bullshit IMO. They are the senior team and they carry a certain weight but thinking that they run FOTA or can influence the FIA into doing anything is a bit far fetched. Well said KLM. Fully agree. What a shame about Lola and Prodrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isurujosh Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) KLM said: With all due respect, it's silly to say that Ferrari are racist because they don't believe that the new teams belong. While I do support the addition of the new teams, I do see their point because the new guys are so woefully under prepared and so far off the pace of the established teams. The FIA really did a terrible job in the vetting process and also with the time-frames they gave these guys to prepare. They picked USF1 over Prodrive and Lola for God's sake! Prodrive has been running top class manufacturer programs for years and had been trying to break into F1 before this plan for 4 new teams came about. I guess Peter Windsor and Ken Anderson did a better job with their PowerPoint presentation than David Richards could manage. And Lola are one of the world's leading single-seater constructors and they had a chassis ready before these new teams did. I think the Ferrari vs FIA war last year put to bed the theory that the Scuderia were favoured sons. We read the English-language media which is dominated by the Brits so it's pretty obvious that these theories are promoted and they're absolute bullshit IMO. They are the senior team and they carry a certain weight but thinking that they run FOTA or can influence the FIA into doing anything is a bit far fetched. this is in case if you were refering to my post when you say that someone implied "Ferrari are racist because they don't believe that the new teams belong". i just wanted to make two independent statements. 1) ferrari is now a racist outfit. i can give two evidences for this but none are to do with their recent comments on the new teams, (a) unfair treatment of kimi against massa (even though brazilian, he is said to have an italian bloodline) even before massa had clearly got an edge in the title fight in 2008. ( b ) rise of incompetent stefano dominicali. my sources have typicallly been bleacherreport, planet F1 and motorsport.com, predominantly english media, may be i have been hearing only one side of the story, but i got to live with that. 2) i agree with ferrari on their remarks on the new teams, because the new teams look a big joke with so much off the pace cars. i don't mean to say ferrari made their remarks based on racist grounds. i am sorry in case it implied something like that. Edited March 8, 2010 by isurujosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniace Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 KLM said: With all due respect, it's silly to say that Ferrari are racist because they don't believe that the new teams belong. While I do support the addition of the new teams, I do see their point because the new guys are so woefully under prepared and so far off the pace of the established teams. The FIA really did a terrible job in the vetting process and also with the time-frames they gave these guys to prepare. They picked USF1 over Prodrive and Lola for God's sake! Prodrive has been running top class manufacturer programs for years and had been trying to break into F1 before this plan for 4 new teams came about. I guess Peter Windsor and Ken Anderson did a better job with their PowerPoint presentation than David Richards could manage. And Lola are one of the world's leading single-seater constructors and they had a chassis ready before these new teams did. I think the Ferrari vs FIA war last year put to bed the theory that the Scuderia were favoured sons. We read the English-language media which is dominated by the Brits so it's pretty obvious that these theories are promoted and they're absolute bullshit IMO. They are the senior team and they carry a certain weight but thinking that they run FOTA or can influence the FIA into doing anything is a bit far fetched. Great thoughts and words KLM! MINIACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLM Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 isurujosh said: this is in case if you were refering to my post when you say that someone implied "Ferrari are racist because they don't believe that the new teams belong". i just wanted to make two independent statements. 1) ferrari is now a racist outfit. i can give two evidences for this but none are to do with their recent comments on the new teams, (a) unfair treatment of kimi against massa (even though brazilian, he is said to have an italian bloodline) even before massa had clearly got an edge in the title fight in 2008. ( b ) rise of incompetent stefano dominicali. my sources have typicallly been bleacherreport, planet F1 and motorsport.com, predominantly english media, may be i have been hearing only one side of the story, but i got to live with that. 2) i agree with ferrari on their remarks on the new teams, because the new teams look a big joke with so much off the pace cars. i don't mean to say ferrari made their remarks based on racist grounds. i am sorry in case it implied something like that. Are you serious? I'm a huge KR fan but he really lost focus in the last 2 years. Massa just outperformed him, plain and simple. Stefano Domenicalli led Ferrari to the drivers title with Kimi in 2007 and the manufacturer's title in 2008 so I'd hardly call him incompetent. Not to mention of course years of fabulous service alongside Todt, Brawn, Byrne and Schumacher. Do you really really think Ferrari are racist because they promoted from within and a driver with a purported Italian bloodline outperformed a Scandinavian???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDon Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 In this day and age I don't think any team can afford to be racist,It just ain't good business...Ferreri may seem arrogant but they are the most successful team ever...So a superiority complex maybe,but not racism... BTW I am what you call "local tifosi"...heehee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 The racist tag is a bit far fetched when commercialism far outweighs ideals and values. Yet, for a such a old and experienced outfit, i see Ferrari acting like the baby throwing toys out of the cot. The ranting monologue only serves to show that they (or 'he'?) wants a soapbox to stand on...just very disappointing behaviour. Even if the new teams are sorely unprepared- let it be shown on the track. As for the politics of who should have been allowed to join this season- well, its quite obvious that selection had a lot more to do than with experience and capability...but that's a moot point considering that Race 1 is (now) just around the corner, and nothing can change this late in the game... Will it be a good season? Its hard to tell because i have a feeling there will be more focus on off-track squabbles and finger pointing than actual racing...but lets see! But i hope we see some spirited racing, such as what came from Brawn last year...admittedly it was a exceptional season just by seeing an underdog come up and steal the thunder from the big boys who were busy eye-balling each other! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis_Pil Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Well said.. to add to that Kimi was paid something to the tune of $45mil compared to the $8mil that was given to Massa. That's money badly spent considering head to head results.. IMO it was a fair case to see Kimi out of the team, Nando maybe a bad as*, but he's a far more proven Driver! KLM said: Are you serious? I'm a huge KR fan but he really lost focus in the last 2 years. Massa just outperformed him, plain and simple. Stefano Domenicalli led Ferrari to the drivers title with Kimi in 2007 and the manufacturer's title in 2008 so I'd hardly call him incompetent. Not to mention of course years of fabulous service alongside Todt, Brawn, Byrne and Schumacher. Do you really really think Ferrari are racist because they promoted from within and a driver with a purported Italian bloodline outperformed a Scandinavian???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAm Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Elvis_Pil said: Well said.. to add to that Kimi was paid something to the tune of $45mil compared to the $8mil that was given to Massa. That's money badly spent considering head to head results.. IMO it was a fair case to see Kimi out of the team, Nando maybe a bad as*, but he's a far more proven Driver! Oh for sure. I was praying that Kimi got sacked like many Ferrari supporters, what a waste of money. I don't like Nando, but yes he'll kick ass and is the best shot they have to contain MS IMHO. I Really like Massa, but I'm afraid that I believe his moment passed in Brazil 2008 with that Toyota slowing down suddenly. I'm afraid that the contenders and their machines are too potent at the top for FM. I wish I am wrong though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLM Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Kimi definitely lucked out with his package when he signed with Ferrari but he did deliver them a title, even though he completely lost focus afterwards. The problem is that he is a proper good-times boy, with a love for cars, bikes and boats - he never had the teutonic desire to dominate everyone that Michael still has. Recenly in a R*D B*LL interview Kimi claimed that the most fun he'd had in the last few years was mucking around in snowmobiles with friends in Finland. Still, I'd say pound for pound he is the only driver on par with Michael in terms of lap times, when his head is in the right place. According to James Allen, Ferrari insiders still cant believe how he made so many podiums and won at Spa late in 2009 because they had stopped developing the car in the middle of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isurujosh Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 KLM said: Kimi definitely lucked out with his package when he signed with Ferrari but he did deliver them a title, even though he completely lost focus afterwards. The problem is that he is a proper good-times boy, with a love for cars, bikes and boats - he never had the teutonic desire to dominate everyone that Michael still has. Recenly in a R*D B*LL interview Kimi claimed that the most fun he'd had in the last few years was mucking around in snowmobiles with friends in Finland. Still, I'd say pound for pound he is the only driver on par with Michael in terms of lap times, when his head is in the right place. According to James Allen, Ferrari insiders still cant believe how he made so many podiums and won at Spa late in 2009 because they had stopped developing the car in the middle of the year. what if kimi did not have such a bad patch of luck in 2008 and the right car in 2009? sure he lost focus and he is not MS material. but he is one of those drivers that can pull of some magic, some champioship material. ferrari after having spent all those millions on his salary should have gone on a step further to keep more faith on kimi without fuelling him most of the time with a heavier load than massa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlons Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Ferrari 1 and 2 awesome. Alonso and Massa are really gonna do it this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunat Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 For those of you who may have a blackberry/smartphone- F1 has released a mobile app which gives live results and timings....I downloaded it y'day and it looks to be working good (albeit buggy and needed a 2nd install to shape up). Superb as you can track timings of qualifying as and when it happens. Url: mobile.f1.com Check downloads link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDon Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 WOOHOO!!! 1 & 2!...PERFECT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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