Will Hybrids Fail Or Succeed In Sri Lanka?

[Californikan]

Dude did you mistakenly walk into Sau Paulo or some Chinese industrial town and imagine that you were in Colombo?

Because I'm fairly certain anyone who actually LIVES here instead of humping hybrids in connecticut will agree with me that you HAVE NO IDEA what it is actually like in either Colombo or Kandy... Where may I ask are these "hundreds of thousands of exhaust smoke spewing vehicles" that you are on about?

The stuff that comes out of you, sir is much more of a pollutant than anything that comes out of ANY tailpipe.

Supra sir, this has already been discussed and argued about in another thread. But, again, you're just thinking about this through your personal experience, and not looking at the big picture and, not looking at the data.

There are well over 4 million motor vehicles (including buses, lorries, trishaws, motorbikes) in Sri Lanka. Many, if not most of these vehicles for various understandable reasons do not meet the current global Euro 5/LEV emissions standards. Many of these vehicles have no emissions controls at all. Every day hundreds of thousand of vehicles drive in or pass through the Colombo metro region. (There were 250,000 vehicles registered in Colombo city alone back in 2009.) This is why the exhaust emissions from hundreds of thousands of vehicles are the main contributor to air pollution in the city.

[whatever]

It's two separate, but connected ideas - global air pollution causes and local air pollution causes...

They are real things happenings, not just ideas

[JadeyBlitzen]

It's two separate, but connected ideas - global air pollution causes and local air pollution causes. Shipping is a huge contributor to the total global air pollution, but locally, in Colombo and Kandy, it's the hundreds of thousands of exhaust smoke spewing vehicles plying the roads that are the main cause of local air pollution.

I'll tell you what a separate but connected idea is. that is your Prius caused more pollution sourcing its batteries and being shipped to US than a Land Cruiser v8 causes being assembled and put in our shores. and we don't wanna hear about pollution in our country from a hippie that lives on the other side of the world. We know its not bad because we can still see the mountains in the hill country from colombo on a clear day.

[jehan80]

Supra sir, this has already been discussed and argued about in another thread. But, again, you're just thinking about this through your personal experience, and not looking at the big picture and, not looking at the data.

There are well over 4 million motor vehicles (including buses, lorries, trishaws, motorbikes) in Sri Lanka. Many, if not most of these vehicles for various understandable reasons do not meet the current global Euro 5/LEV emissions standards. Many of these vehicles have no emissions controls at all. Every day hundreds of thousand of vehicles drive in or pass through the Colombo metro region. (There were 250,000 vehicles registered in Colombo city alone back in 2009.) This is why the exhaust emissions from hundreds of thousands of vehicles are the main contributor to air pollution in the city.

4 million motor vehicles? Where did you google that from? Maybe upto 4 million registered vehicles since the inception of the process, but common sense would tell me there definitely cant be 4m vehicles on the road, running right now.

Edited May 16, 2012 by jehan80

[Sylvi]

Last years article.

http://sundaytimes.lk/110313/BusinessTimes/bt03.html

Sylvi Wijesinghe

[T-Bag]

I agree with you Hybrids are good, but its not a solution for fossil fuel. That's what I say.. No petrol No Prius.. What we need a alternative solution for petrol not a low drinker. Nissan Leaf is another path but at the moment its a crap, but may be future it will develop.

[Californikan]

I'll tell you what a separate but connected idea is. that is your Prius caused more pollution sourcing its batteries and being shipped to US than a Land Cruiser v8 causes being assembled and put in our shores. and we don't wanna hear about pollution in our country from a hippie that lives on the other side of the world. We know its not bad because we can still see the mountains in the hill country from colombo on a clear day.

Of course you don't want to hear it. You've got your head firmly up your ass. Trying to judge air pollution by how far you can see is about as useful as judging a person's personality by looking at the size of their ears. In any air polluted city around the world you can see further "on a clear day". Colombo is a coastal city. When it rains and the ocean winds blow just right, the smog and the air pollution gets blown away from the city and you have "a clear day". That doesn't mean the hundreds of thousands of vehicles on the road stop emitting exhaust smoke, and it doesn't mean there isn't air pollution.

And with the Prius pollution thing, you're watching way too many out of date six year old episodes of Top Gear. Top Gear's original assertion about the 2G Prius was disproved, and it doesn't apply to the 3G Prius.

[Californikan]

4 million motor vehicles? Where did you google that from? Maybe upto 4 million registered vehicles since the inception of the process, but common sense would tell me there definitely cant be 4m vehicles on the road, running right now.

According to this http://www.lankanews...09/9/48102.html 3.3 million motor vehicles registered in SL as of Dec 31st 2008. Add the 212,000 vehicles imported in 2009, the 360,000 vehicles imported in 2010, and 524,000 vehicles imported in 2011, and you top 4 million.

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Edited May 18, 2012 by Californikan

[jehan80]

Well according to the Sep 2010 Sunday observer article, the Motor Traffic Commissioner General says:

"He said 3.7 million motor vehicles have been registered in the country since the establishment of the Department in 1928"

http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2010/09/26/new20.asp

I think its safe to say a fair amount of those registered vehicles are not actually on the roads today...

[JadeyBlitzen]

Of course you don't want to hear it. You've got your head firmly up your ass. Trying to judge air pollution by how far you can see is about as useful as judging a person's personality by looking at the size of their ears. In any air polluted city around the world you can see further "on a clear day". Colombo is a coastal city. When it rains and the ocean winds blow just right, the smog and the air pollution gets blown away from the city and you have "a clear day". That doesn't mean the hundreds of thousands of vehicles on the road stop emitting exhaust smoke, and it doesn't mean there isn't air pollution.

And with the Prius pollution thing, you're watching way too many out of date six year old episodes of Top Gear. Top Gear's original assertion about the 2G Prius was disproved, and it doesn't apply to the 3G Prius.

all this is just an idiot with a massive carbon footprint making a lot of noise. What are you now? a weatherman? If you want to save the world so much what are you doing in a centrally heated house, eating all that fancy food, flying back and fourth and driving a prius without using mass transit or cycling? because underneath all that guerrilla marketing and bogus statistics you know deep down you are a hypocrite and that if you promoted hybrids people won't notice it.

If you want to make a change be that change ...and get off the f*cking computer because the coal power plant that's powering it is killing baby seals.

[Californikan]

all this is just an idiot with a massive carbon footprint making a lot of noise. What are you now? a weatherman? If you want to save the world so much what are you doing in a centrally heated house, eating all that fancy food, flying back and fourth and driving a prius without using mass transit or cycling? because underneath all that guerrilla marketing and bogus statistics you know deep down you are a hypocrite and that if you promoted hybrids people won't notice it.

If you want to make a change be that change ...and get off the f*cking computer because the coal power plant that's powering it is killing baby seals.

Huh ?.

You're making an awful lot of assumptions.

[GayanR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

[Californikan]

[VVTi]

I have come to the belief that Cali is not human, he is a walking talking Prius... with the sole purpose of spreading his kind on earth...

[JadeyBlitzen]

Huh ?.

You're making an awful lot of assumptions.

I don't see you trying to prove them wrong them either

[Californikan]

I don't see you trying to prove them wrong them either

No need to disprove shit.

[JadeyBlitzen]

No need to disprove shit.

ah! living in denial, like always

[Californikan]

more global evidence for the success of hybrids in SL .....

Toyota Prius is now the third best selling car in the world

First quarter sales so far in 2012...

#1 - Toyota Corolla - 300,800 units

#2 - Ford Focus - 277,000 units

#3 - Toyota Prius - 247,230 units (and Prius sales are being constrained by limited production capacity).

http://green.autoblo...-world-sort-of/

[Supra_Natural]

more global evidence for the success of hybrids in SL .....

Toyota Prius is now the third best selling car in the world

First quarter sales so far in 2012...

#1 - Toyota Corolla - 300,800 units

#2 - Ford Focus - 277,000 units

#3 - Toyota Prius - 247,230 units (and Prius sales are being constrained by limited production capacity).

http://green.autoblo...-world-sort-of/

You Missed the "Sort of" part of that article and the related asterisk.... Im quoting directly here...

There's an asterisk on the Prius' sales figures, though. Much of that new success is due to the fact that there are a brace of new Prius models, namely the C, V and Plug-in – that have expanded the line, with the C being the "car of the moment in Japan," according to Automotive News

So Those are sales figures for FOUR distinct models in total... Sure they share similarities in some ways but that doesnt make them one prius, and THAT doesn't make the Prius the 3rd Best selling car.

[Californikan]

So Those are sales figures for FOUR distinct models in total... Sure they share similarities in some ways but that doesnt make them one prius, and THAT doesn't make the Prius the 3rd Best selling car.

And how are the four Prius models being counted under one namplate any different from the way the various models, body styles, engines, interiors, and trim levels of the Corolla, Focus, Civic etc are counted under one nameplate ? The Civic line has had numerous models,body styles, engines, interiors, and trim levels across the range over the decades and they've all been counted as 'Civic'.

[Californikan]

Sorry Supra and other 'skeptics'. You fellows are not just fighting against a global reality, you fellows are fighting against the direction the world's automakers, the world's governments (including the Sri Lankan government) and the world's major car markets are all moving towards. Just admit you got it all wrong. Hybrids will succeed in Sri Lanka. Mostly because this is the direction the world is moving in.

ps. If you fellows bothered to read up on the news, trends and happenings in the motor vehicle markets of other countries, you would have known the moment the tax concessions were announced that hybrids were going to succeed in SL. (Because this is what has happened everywhere around the world).

http://www.bloomberg...-top-three.html

[The Stig]

You Missed the "Sort of" part of that article and the related asterisk.... Im quoting directly here...

So Those are sales figures for FOUR distinct models in total... Sure they share similarities in some ways but that doesnt make them one prius, and THAT doesn't make the Prius the 3rd Best selling car.

Machan i dont think there is any point in arguing with a guy who didnt know what his wheels were like, just let it go

[Pericles]

more global evidence for the success of hybrids in SL .....

First quarter sales so far in 2012...

#1 - Toyota Corolla - 300,800 units

#2 - Ford Focus - 277,000 units

#3 - Toyota Prius - 247,230 units (and Prius sales are being constrained by limited production capacity).

http://green.autoblo...-world-sort-of/

No of brand new units sold through the agents in SL in the first quarter (which is what these kind of statistics track) - 0

Paka "proof" some buggers bring, huh?

[wjkalana]

I agree with you Hybrids are good, but its not a solution for fossil fuel. That's what I say.. No petrol No Prius.. What we need a alternative solution for petrol not a low drinker. Nissan Leaf is another path but at the moment its a crap, but may be future it will develop.

Oh at last doesn't know about the next generation of fuel, ( I thought u knew everything) Anyway next gen fuel is hydrogen fuel cells. Honda is already underway with FCX clarity in southern california, http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/, advantage of this is u can refill hydrogen just like petrol, so u dont have to charge u r battery overnight like in electric cars. So as long as u have hydrogen fuel stations along the way u can use it. And other advantage is u r only emission is water vapor, no carbon dioxide or other harmful gasses. So I would say this is gonna be the future.

[Californikan]

No of brand new units sold through the agents in SL in the first quarter

It wasn't available for sale through the agents in Q1 in SL.