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Now I'm really posting this because I have no idea about this matter. I've been told by many that the Korean cars are not very high in build quality and can be disastrous at an accident. However I've not heard the same being said about the Indian cars and obviously a lot more Indian cars are being sold than the Korean ones.

Are the Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent/Sonata/Elantra even worse than the Suzuki Maruti/Alto in build quality ?

The Swift is a different article since it incorporates Japanese technology.

But if the Indian vehicles are not any better, or worse, than the Korean vehicles, why do people keep buying them in heaps ? Is this because the Maruti/Alto are among the cheapest available brand new cars ? Or is this because the resale value of some Indian vehicles seem to hold up better ?

Why do most people seem to consider the Korean vehicles as inferior ? Is there really a risk to safety in buying a Korean car ?

Thanks

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Mate, seriously? do u really think opening up new threads asking the same question in different wordings is going to make people answer differently. You are obviously utterly confused. None of us are funding your vehicle, it is your hard earned (or otherwise) money that you will be spending. So for the love of man kind please take a few hours with a Sunday paper and the internet (preferably not the AL forum) and decided exactly on what you want based on your requirement (which is known only to you).

Because, you are humiliating your self and the purpose of this forum. Once you decide on a car, go for it. Its not like marriage where cost of change can lead to suicide. Therefore if you don't like go sell than darn thing. Do some experimentation. Be a man!!

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Hi KFL. U might be interested in Australian experience, where the current crop of Korean cars are now seen as pretty well level pegging with the Japanese products in terms of build/reliability/safety. Some get 5-star safety ratings. Car tests and reviews frequently refer to the leaps and bounds in quality the Korean car makers have made in recent years. One really positive thing the Hyundais and Kias have on the market here are 5 year warrantys.....which speaks to the makers' confidence in their products. ('Course others might totally disagree with these comments.)

There is a small Indian built Suzuki on the market in Oz...don't hear much about it...people don't really know/care where it is built. The attraction is the $11k or so drive away price. You also see a few Indian made pick-ups but these are also being bought totally on their price point.

Whatever u dceide to buy, enjoy the drive. :D

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I think I get it KFL. All these questions of yours, AL members have answered, many times over, but the fact you ask them again shows that you're looking for something more, something out of the box. Well, have you considered a helicopter? They are really good in traffic. Don't go for Korean choppers, they are a fire burning hell in an accident. Or a tank? They are hardy, good under Korean enemy fire and just brilliant in an accident. But get a good Italian one, the Jap ones have low quality safety features (e.g. no airbags) and have no power shutters, retractable mirrors. No agent support, but Delkanda should have at least 90% of the spares. Make sure you have enough parking and get a good sound system. Or there's a bicycle, deffa you can get one for under a million and a brand new one at that. Cycle bazaar and Lumala are the agents. Excellent on fuel, in fact it's a 8.5-9.5 zillion km/l and they are small and nippy in traffic. Don't buy a Korean/Indian one, your neighbours will so laugh at that, they probably have Jap ones.

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Or a tank? They are hardy, good under Korean enemy fire and just brilliant in an accident. But get a good Italian one, the Jap ones have low quality safety features (e.g. no airbags) and have no power shutters, retractable mirrors.

Dude, does the Italian ones have scoop lights and wanker mirrors? One cant drive without them you know.. ;)

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Mate, seriously? do u really think opening up new threads asking the same question in different wordings is going to make people answer differently. You are obviously utterly confused. None of us are funding your vehicle, it is your hard earned (or otherwise) money that you will be spending. So for the love of man kind please take a few hours with a Sunday paper and the internet (preferably not the AL forum) and decided exactly on what you want based on your requirement (which is known only to you).

Because, you are humiliating your self and the purpose of this forum. Once you decide on a car, go for it. Its not like marriage where cost of change can lead to suicide. Therefore if you don't like go sell than darn thing. Do some experimentation. Be a man!!

Nicely said :lol: two thumbs up buddy :angry-smiley-048: :angry-smiley-048:

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I think I get it KFL. All these questions of yours, AL members have answered, many times over, but the fact you ask them again shows that you're looking for something more, something out of the box. Well, have you considered a helicopter? They are really good in traffic. Don't go for Korean choppers, they are a fire burning hell in an accident. Or a tank? They are hardy, good under Korean enemy fire and just brilliant in an accident. But get a good Italian one, the Jap ones have low quality safety features (e.g. no airbags) and have no power shutters, retractable mirrors. No agent support, but Delkanda should have at least 90% of the spares. Make sure you have enough parking and get a good sound system. Or there's a bicycle, deffa you can get one for under a million and a brand new one at that. Cycle bazaar and Lumala are the agents. Excellent on fuel, in fact it's a 8.5-9.5 zillion km/l and they are small and nippy in traffic. Don't buy a Korean/Indian one, your neighbours will so laugh at that, they probably have Jap ones.

ROFLMAO...

Posted (edited)

Now I'm really posting this because I have no idea about this matter. I've been told by many that the Korean cars are not very high in build quality and can be disastrous at an accident. However I've not heard the same being said about the Indian cars and obviously a lot more Indian cars are being sold than the Korean ones.

YOu have been informed correctly. The fact that you don't hear about disastrous Indian vehicle accidents are becasue there are no survivors to stand around and bicker about the Indian build quality. Most of the time, the driver, passengers and Indian car are amalgamated in to one happy mish mash of Metal and flesh. This is the Indian Marketing model where they promote oneness with the brand. Where as a Korean car crash survivor will be bitching to high heaven about his Air Bag knocking out his nose and lodging the Walls Ice cream he was eating at the time deep inside his throat. He will live to drive another day, with some bruises and some stiff necks. Yet, alive, nonetheless.

Are the Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent/Sonata/Elantra even worse than the Suzuki Maruti/Alto in build quality ?

Absolutley. The Maruti/Alto is based on the T1000, where in the event of a crash, they go in to a million pieces. Once you manage to collect all the pieces, you can give your Brother/Sister son/daughter or senile old parents the chance to put it all back together again, piece by piece. With Koreans you cant have this much fun, you will have to walk the Highlevel road like a Rs. 100 hooker with a tail light in your hand looking for a matching part.

The Swift is a different article since it incorporates Japanese technology.

Correct. I suppose the fact that Kia shares Ford/Mazda tech slips through your excellent analytical ability.

But if the Indian vehicles are not any better, or worse, than the Korean vehicles, why do people keep buying them in heaps ? Is this because the Maruti/Alto are among the cheapest available brand new cars ? Or is this because the resale value of some Indian vehicles seem to hold up better ?

Well, My Chinese freind always says, Good things no cheap.... cheap things no good..... They had Indian cars in mind when they coined this phrase. He said.

Why do most people seem to consider the Korean vehicles as inferior ? Is there really a risk to safety in buying a Korean car ?

Thanks

Who are these people? Your neighbors? How close are you to your neighbours? So you have a strong resemblance to your neighbor by any chance? IS there something fishy going on in Wysteria Lane that we should know about?

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As much as I am laughing fellas, I have a feeling this is just gonna confuse some idiot in the long run, so the questions are gonna get repeated months and years down the line by these confused newbies.

KFL, The SL car market is full of myths and perceptions. Don't pay attention to gossip, read up at places where knowledgeable people discuss things. And learn to differentiate humour/sarcasm from serious talk.

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Peri, in this day and age of readily available information, its sad to see grown up men/boys depending on the neighbours opinion to make a purchase decision... :)

Worse of all, doing so to impress the neighbors... :)

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Peri, in this day and age of readily available information, its sad to see grown up men/boys depending on the neighbours opinion to make a purchase decision... :)

Worse of all, doing so to impress the neighbors... :)

I know, I already expressed myself on that on the appropriate thread too. Unless its a good looking female neighbour.

But its not just about this chap, but avoiding future headaches too. After all, this IS part of that readily available information. So gotta make it good :)

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I know, I already expressed myself on that on the appropriate thread too. Unless its a good looking female neighbour.

But its not just about this chap, but avoiding future headaches too. After all, this IS part of that readily available information. So gotta make it good :)

Peri, this is one headache that will never go away. No matter how you manage the info on AL, there will always be some lazy bugger who will start a thread to ask one dumbass question.

You can index and cross index the info on AL a million different ways but then some moron will always ask them same dumb ass question.

And they will still complain that you don't have enough filters too.... ;)

Fidiot can't use the basic SEARCH function, but wants to use extra search criteria to seacrh under price, origin, etc.... :)

Go figure!

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If I find one of those genie lamps and a genie pops out, my first wish would be for OP to never reproduce. How scary is the thought of more people like him in the world?

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Now I'm really posting this because I have no idea about this matter. I've been told by many that the Korean cars are not very high in build quality and can be disastrous at an accident. However I've not heard the same being said about the Indian cars and obviously a lot more Indian cars are being sold than the Korean ones.

Are the Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent/Sonata/Elantra even worse than the Suzuki Maruti/Alto in build quality ?

The Swift is a different article since it incorporates Japanese technology.

But if the Indian vehicles are not any better, or worse, than the Korean vehicles, why do people keep buying them in heaps ? Is this because the Maruti/Alto are among the cheapest available brand new cars ? Or is this because the resale value of some Indian vehicles seem to hold up better ?

Why do most people seem to consider the Korean vehicles as inferior ? Is there really a risk to safety in buying a Korean car ?

Thanks

Get in to all these cars you talk about.( Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent/Sonata/Elantra,Suzuki Maruti/Alto) & see what you like most. Their build quality & comfort.

I think you will get answer to your question. In my option you should first get in to a Maruti & feel the difference from others.

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Now I'm really posting this because I have no idea about this matter. I've been told by many that the Korean cars are not very high in build quality and can be disastrous at an accident. However I've not heard the same being said about the Indian cars and obviously a lot more Indian cars are being sold than the Korean ones.

Are the Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent/Sonata/Elantra even worse than the Suzuki Maruti/Alto in build quality ?

The Swift is a different article since it incorporates Japanese technology.

But if the Indian vehicles are not any better, or worse, than the Korean vehicles, why do people keep buying them in heaps ? Is this because the Maruti/Alto are among the cheapest available brand new cars ? Or is this because the resale value of some Indian vehicles seem to hold up better ?

Why do most people seem to consider the Korean vehicles as inferior ? Is there really a risk to safety in buying a Korean car ?

Thanks

first you need to get off this idea about indian cars been better than korean cars indian cars never will be better than korean cars in performance comfort safety and build quality korean are way ahead than indians only advantages of indian cars are there are cheap to buy and fuel efficient this why people keep buying them in heaps like a bunch of sheep's following herd and don't listen to your neighbors how do you know there are giving these advices for your own good of they just give them for jealousy? instead asking about this from your neighbors or members in this forum grow a pair and be your own man and buy the car you like or be a sheep and follow the herd. :rolleyes:

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Can we create a specific section for "Car buying information" and move all of these threads to that section. In the future we can simply tell these guys to go read through the topics in that secion, if we believe there is no value answering the same set of questions for the 200th time.

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I think I get it KFL. All these questions of yours, AL members have answered, many times over, but the fact you ask them again shows that you're looking for something more, something out of the box. Well, have you considered a helicopter? They are really good in traffic. Don't go for Korean choppers, they are a fire burning hell in an accident. Or a tank? They are hardy, good under Korean enemy fire and just brilliant in an accident. But get a good Italian one, the Jap ones have low quality safety features (e.g. no airbags) and have no power shutters, retractable mirrors. No agent support, but Delkanda should have at least 90% of the spares. Make sure you have enough parking and get a good sound system. Or there's a bicycle, deffa you can get one for under a million and a brand new one at that. Cycle bazaar and Lumala are the agents. Excellent on fuel, in fact it's a 8.5-9.5 zillion km/l and they are small and nippy in traffic. Don't buy a Korean/Indian one, your neighbours will so laugh at that, they probably have Jap ones.

LMAO you made my day man.....!!!! :grinning-smiley-043:

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As previously mentioned, Oz gets a small Indian-made car,the Suzuki Alto. ANCAPP gives the vehicle a 4 star safety rating based on testing of the the European airbag equipped model which, unlike the Australian supplied vehicle, does not have air-curtains. The Australian vehicle has 2 airbags, 2 side airbags + 2 side curtain airbags. I think the most expensive Australian Alto also has stability control (this is getting to be madatory for new cars here) and all have ABS. Anyway, the extra safety kit could lift the vehicle above that original 4 star rating. But it's the same Indian-made structure as anywhere else.

In the crash testing, the vehicle scored 10/16 for a Frontal Offset collision and 14/16 for a Side Impact and the comment was made that the passenger compartment held its shape well in a FOC. Major weakness revolved around whacking your knees against the dash shelf and the design being unfriendly in a pedestrian impact.If anybody was interested, the crash report is here:

http://www.howsafeisyourcar.com.au/2011/Suzuki/Alto/GL-4D-Hatch-5sp-man-1_0L-3cyl-Petrol/

So how bad are Indian cars in the real world, out on the road as opposed to being banged around in the test labs? Is there a possibility that,like the Korean industry, the Indian product is on the move in quality terms?

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As previously mentioned, Oz gets a small Indian-made car,the Suzuki Alto. ANCAPP gives the vehicle a 4 star safety rating based on testing of the the European airbag equipped model which, unlike the Australian supplied vehicle, does not have air-curtains. The Australian vehicle has 2 airbags, 2 side airbags + 2 side curtain airbags. I think the most expensive Australian Alto also has stability control (this is getting to be madatory for new cars here) and all have ABS. Anyway, the extra safety kit could lift the vehicle above that original 4 star rating. But it's the same Indian-made structure as anywhere else.

In the crash testing, the vehicle scored 10/16 for a Frontal Offset collision and 14/16 for a Side Impact and the comment was made that the passenger compartment held its shape well in a FOC. Major weakness revolved around whacking your knees against the dash shelf and the design being unfriendly in a pedestrian impact.If anybody was interested, the crash report is here:

http://www.howsafeisyourcar.com.au/2011/Suzuki/Alto/GL-4D-Hatch-5sp-man-1_0L-3cyl-Petrol/

So how bad are Indian cars in the real world, out on the road as opposed to being banged around in the test labs? Is there a possibility that,like the Korean industry, the Indian product is on the move in quality terms?

Posted

seems to me like, you really shouldn't buy a car at all. and even if you buy one

i can imagine what kind of maintainer you would be

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seems to me like, you really shouldn't buy a car at all. and even if you buy one

i can imagine what kind of maintainer you would be

"My neighbour puts diesel in his Prado, So i'm also going to put diesel, if he sees me pumping petrol, he might laugh!"

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Oh come on guys. Is this the right way to treat a newbie? If everyone was an expert on cars, they wouldn't come here right ?

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"My neighbour puts diesel in his Prado, So i'm also going to put diesel, if he sees me pumping petrol, he might laugh!"

:lol::lol::lol:

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Oh come on guys. Is this the right way to treat a newbie? If everyone was an expert on cars, they wouldn't come here right ?

But machang, you ask dumb questions no... :)

And there is no policy on how newbies are treated... newbies decide how they get treated... :)

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