ModX Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) Hi Experts, Appreciate your valuable responses in advance. I'm in the market, seeking a Hydraulic Jack for a Kia Sorento 2012 model which is weighed around 3900Kg. Is there any specific brands to be looked in to? How much will it cost and any good place to shop for these? Thanks Edited October 24, 2012 by ModX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvi Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 ModX, You will have to buy a Hydraulic operated Jack with lifting capacity of 2 tons minimum. If you have a passenger load in your vehicle if you want to change a tire without requesting them not to get down. Then any jack has to go in for a capacity above 3 Tons. Be OK. There a plenty of brands available in Panchikawatte. It all depends how much you want to spend for Jack. Sylvi Wijesinghe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 2 comments/questions on Sylvi's post: 1- For starters, I think its pretty dam dangerous to change a tyre of a vehicle while people are still in it considering a sudden movement can send everything tumbling down on your foot. 2- If no passengers, its a 2 ton jack, and with passengers its 3? Sorento being a 7 seater at most, and you being the driver you're looking at 6 people in the vehicle.. so 166kg per passenger????? Either you're bad at math or you have one fat bunch of family/friends. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XBeat Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Total load of the vehicle will distributed symmetrically over the four wheels. There fore it is not required to go for a 03 Ton or 02 Ton jack since you will be replacing one tire at a time using the jack. something around 1.5 Ton will do the job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kushan Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hi Experts, Appreciate your valuable responses in advance. I'm in the market, seeking a Hydraulic Jack for a Kia Sorento 2012 model which is weighed around 3900Kg. Is there any specific brands to be looked in to? How much will it cost and any good place to shop for these? Thanks Yep, 1.5 or 2 ton will do it, but didn't it come with a jack or you lost it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YALA Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 i had a 2 ton on my previous truck one of the best investment i made considering the stock one was a bugger to use..think i spent about 3k on it back in 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Total load of the vehicle will distributed symmetrically over the four wheels. There fore it is not required to go for a 03 Ton or 02 Ton jack since you will be replacing one tire at a time using the jack. something around 1.5 Ton will do the job XBeat, you are not correct (and that goes for Kushan too). While a 1.5Ton might be enough, the weight is not symmetrically distributed along the 3 wheels. When a vehicle is not loaded on a vehicle with the engine in the front, there is more weight on the front wheels than the back. This is why you pressurize the front wheels more than the back. Now when the vehicle is loaded the weight might shift and depending on the design of the vehicle you might get more weight on the back wheels. So while as you don't need a jack which can handle the entire weight of the car, you can't depend on symmetric weight distribution either. The weight rating on the original jack supplied with the vehicle is a good indication of what a replacement jack will need to hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kushan Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 XBeat, you are not correct (and that goes for Kushan too). While a 1.5Ton might be enough, the weight is not symmetrically distributed along the 3 wheels. When a vehicle is not loaded on a vehicle with the engine in the front, there is more weight on the front wheels than the back. This is why you pressurize the front wheels more than the back. Now when the vehicle is loaded the weight might shift and depending on the design of the vehicle you might get more weight on the back wheels. So while as you don't need a jack which can handle the entire weight of the car, you can't depend on symmetric weight distribution either. The weight rating on the original jack supplied with the vehicle is a good indication of what a replacement jack will need to hold. well.. I agreed only on the point of 1.5 ton, yes it is not symmetrical as you explained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvi Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Members, Opinion differs from one person to another. I have changed tires with the load and without the load take for instance when a lorry is loaded if you have to change a tire. Do the driver and the cleaner have to unload the load first and change the tire and reload. there are safety precautions for all above. I have seen with passengers in the bus. Driver and the conductor change Tires on the road. I gave safe capacity of the Jack for easy handling. when there is a load it is difficult to operate low tonnage jack. That is the main reason I suggested to use a higher capacity jack. Sylvi Wijesinghe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPP Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I have changed tires with the load and without the load take for instance when a lorry is loaded if you have to change a tire. Do the driver and the cleaner have to unload the load first and change the tire and reload. there are safety precautions for all above. I have seen with passengers in the bus. Driver and the conductor change Tires on the road. Sylvi Wijesinghe. What he said was sudden movement inside can cause an issue. A loaded lorry does not move by itself, while what bus drivers/conductors do is totally different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Members, Opinion differs from one person to another. I have changed tires with the load and without the load take for instance when a lorry is loaded if you have to change a tire. Do the driver and the cleaner have to unload the load first and change the tire and reload. there are safety precautions for all above. I have seen with passengers in the bus. Driver and the conductor change Tires on the road. I gave safe capacity of the Jack for easy handling. when there is a load it is difficult to operate low tonnage jack. That is the main reason I suggested to use a higher capacity jack. Sylvi Wijesinghe. I dont think logs or bags of cement would suddenly reach to the front the change the radio channel or lean out the window to ask you "machang tire eka hari da?".. Well, its upto you if you want to use a bus-driver as a benchmark for safely operating a vehicle.. But I dont deny that people still do MANY stupid things .... For example things like changing tyres while there are people in the car; changing the bulbs in their signal lights to blue; or even purposely disconnecting the fanbelt of the vehicle when driving in the rain... you be the judge Edited October 25, 2012 by Watchman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I dont think logs or bags of cement would suddenly reach to the front the change the radio channel or lean out the window to ask you "machang tire eka hari da?".. Well, its upto you if you want to use a bus-driver as a benchmark for safely operating a vehicle.. But I dont deny that people still do MANY stupid things .... For example things like changing tyres while there are people in the car; changing the bulbs in their signal lights to blue; or even purposely disconnecting the fanbelt of the vehicle when driving in the rain... you be the judge Why disconnect the fan belt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pericles Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Why disconnect the fan belt? Very old story, that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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