Petrol Vs Diesel

[noaim]

Whats the Major Difference between the 2, other than the Price!!! lol...

And does diesel have advantages over petrol @ all, or is petrol the ultimate choice.

Your opinions plz...

[dinosh]

Whats the Major Difference between the 2, other than the Fuel! lol...

And does diesel have advantages over petrol @ all, or is petrol the ultimate choice.

Your opinions plz...

I will go for Petrol coz the vehicle is smooth & for performance. Also since there is not much of long running done. However if I have to do alot of long running i would pick a deisel vehicle.

[madmax]

I will go for Petrol coz the vehicle is smooth & for performance. Also since there is not much of long running done. However if I have to do alot of long running i would pick a deisel vehicle.

Diesel's have a lot of tourqe in the low revs. Diesels are the best for a 4x4 offroader... Also diesels are getting quiter and smoother now.. I'm fascinated with the diesels after my recent cross-over to diesel vehicles from petrol ones. Another plus point is the economy!!!

[Pericles]

What with the newer offerings from BMW and the diesel Audi winning, uhhh, what was it? Le Mans? some 24 hour race, its getting harder to differentiate and pick an offering.

[isurujosh]

Diesel's have a lot of tourqe in the low revs. Diesels are the best for a 4x4 offroader... Also diesels are getting quiter and smoother now.. I'm fascinated with the diesels after my recent cross-over to diesel vehicles from petrol ones. Another plus point is the economy!!!

z da cost saving for real... say if u run 1000-2000 km a month... the price of a diesel vehicle + maitenence + etc...

do the calculations for ur BMW reuturn a positive NPV...

[xXx]

z da cost saving for real... say if u run 1000-2000 km a month... the price of a diesel vehicle + maitenence + etc...

do the calculations for ur BMW reuturn a positive NPV...

you have a good point there. from what i heard its very expenceive to maintain a deisel in the long run. but im sure max dont run that much so it'll be fine for him.

[dinosh]

Diesel's have a lot of tourqe in the low revs. Diesels are the best for a 4x4 offroader... Also diesels are getting quiter and smoother now.. I'm fascinated with the diesels after my recent cross-over to diesel vehicles from petrol ones. Another plus point is the economy!!!

It seems like you are using a BMW, i do agree on the improvement of the deisel engines. My boss used a Audi A6 TDi which seemed like a petrol one.

Regarding the 4x4's most new ones are Petrol, right? May be coz most of them never leave the tarmac.

[xXx]

Regarding the 4x4's most new ones are Petrol, right? May be coz most of them never leave the tarmac.

NO. the main reason is diesels are outrageously expensive

[Hola]

We had a Diesel Hiace from 1993 and thought of getting a petrol Hiace becuase

1/.We wanted to buy a new van and a dieasel will cost 3.2milion as we bought this only for 1.3milion

2/.A diesel will be 3000cc at RS62/= per liter where as a petrol will be 2000cc at 93rupees. We feel for that 30 rupee diffrence there is a fuel saving for the 1000cc

3/.A diesel service cost would be 4000-5000 where as the petrol we do it at 2000-3000. (it uses a Carina Oil Filter)

4/.Its smooth, comortable, cheap on the insurence

I will go for Petrol coz the vehicle is smooth & for performance. Also since there is not much of long running done. However if I have to do alot of long running i would pick a deisel vehicle.

malliya, you have long runs ehh...hmmmm must call ur bro today..

[dinosh]

NO. the main reason is diesels are outrageously expensive

Got to agree on that piont in SL.

[Hola]

Amen to that

[Pericles]

you have a good point there. from what i heard its very expenceive to maintain a deisel in the long run. but im sure max dont run that much so it'll be fine for him.

Max don't do long runs He does at least 2 runs a month to Tissamaharama and at least once a month to Kandy Why do u think he suddenly wanted a diesel after the collection of high performance petrols?

Tho I must say, difference between diesel and petrol BMs is in terms of performance is minimum to non-existant. And the long distance cruising savings probably should cover the extra maintainance on the diesel. He tells me he does the Colombo-Tissa-Colombo run on one tank of juice I dunno if a petrol can match that, and anyway, even if it does, cost of 1 tank of petrol vs 1 tank of diesel?

[isurujosh]

Max don't do long runs He does at least 2 runs a month to Tissamaharama and at least once a month to Kandy Why do u think he suddenly wanted a diesel after the collection of high performance petrols?

Tho I must say, difference between diesel and petrol BMs is in terms of performance is minimum to non-existant. And the long distance cruising savings probably should cover the extra maintainance on the diesel. He tells me he does the Colombo-Tissa-Colombo run on one tank of juice I dunno if a petrol can match that, and anyway, even if it does, cost of 1 tank of petrol vs 1 tank of diesel?

two questions...

1) what is the price difference between the petrol one and the diesel one, such that performance difference is non existent.

2) I heard that the diesel ones turbo unit has to be replaced or subjected major repiar every 30000km or so costing couple of lakhs or so, is it true?

[madmax]

you have a good point there. from what i heard its very expenceive to maintain a deisel in the long run. but im sure max dont run that much so it'll be fine for him.

Wrong, I bought a diesel becuase I run a lot. I Had done 8000 + KMs in less than 3 months after I bought a diesel. On this the oil service comes every 15000KM so the maintainence is not high as they say. Also I'm yet to see any Diesel specific repairs on my cars...

two questions...

1) what is the price difference between the petrol one and the diesel one, such that performance difference is non existent.

2) I heard that the diesel ones turbo unit has to be replaced or subjected major repiar every 30000km or so costing couple of lakhs or so, is it true?

There are a lot of myths about the BMW diesel, but these are common for cars that have sat in the garage without running. Even the BMW specialists say from experince, that the cars that run all the time have less trouble..

Also the Facelift model has a CDI engine which BMW says needs very less maintainence.

Obviously there is a big price gap between the Petrol and diesel. I think the diesel will be a good 1 Mil or so expensive than the petrol.

[ferrarif50]

Obviously there is a big price gap between the Petrol and diesel. I think the diesel will be a good 1 Mil or so expensive than the petrol.

i was wondering, why theres a huge parice gap between petrol & diesel ?

if diesel is hard to maintain and all , why diesel is more expensive ?

[Pericles]

i was wondering, why theres a huge parice gap between petrol & diesel ?

if diesel is hard to maintain and all , why diesel is more expensive ?

Because our wonderful government has a huge tax on diesels.

[isurujosh]

Because our wonderful government has a huge tax on diesels.

hey hey... the high tax on diesel vehicles does justice

[xXx]

Wrong, I bought a diesel becuase I run a lot. I Had done 8000 + KMs in less than 3 months after I bought a diesel. On this the oil service comes every 15000KM so the maintainence is not high as they say. Also I'm yet to see any Diesel specific repairs on my cars...

ooops sorry didn't know that you were a heavy user. man u should have goen for a diesel long time ago.

max would you pls mind telling me how much a face lift n non face lift E46 goes 4 these days both petrol n deisel?

i almost bought one in 2004 just b4 the tax hike. 320D thoes days it was only 2.8mil fully lodded no sunroof though GC numbers.

[Pericles]

hey hey... the high tax on diesel vehicles does justice

OK, justify it. I say it doesn't, coz it means even getting down a bottom of the range off-roader is too expensive. Jeeps made before I was born are going for over a mill. And remember, people haulers like buses and vans normally come in diesel, but are now going outta reach. What about the lorries that transport most of our goods all over the country?

[noaim]

OK, justify it. I say it doesn't, coz it means even getting down a bottom of the range off-roader is too expensive. Jeeps made before I was born are going for over a mill. And remember, people haulers like buses and vans normally come in diesel, but are now going outta reach. What about the lorries that transport most of our goods all over the country?

The lorries now on the rd are the TATAS & those, buddy vans turned lorries. TATA mid size lorries r diesel right?

[Watchman]

i dont think the tax on lorries busses etc are as high as for cars/jeeps.

I go for diesel cos there you pay a big figure at the start.. and with petrol, you relive the horror every single time you go to the petrol shed... not a lot of logic but insode it comforts to think you pay less on a daily basis.... ..

and like peri and max say diesel engines have come quite a way.. most new cars hardly show a lack of performance or comfort in thier diesel models over the petrol ones...

[tuk tuk]

The lorries now on the rd are the TATAS & those, buddy vans turned lorries. TATA mid size lorries r diesel right?

And Tata's get a tax break under our free trade agreement with India

[isurujosh]

OK, justify it. I say it doesn't, coz it means even getting down a bottom of the range off-roader is too expensive. Jeeps made before I was born are going for over a mill. And remember, people haulers like buses and vans normally come in diesel, but are now going outta reach. What about the lorries that transport most of our goods all over the country?

given SL prices, petrol subsidises diesel, so the private consumption of diesel vehicles must be discouraged... else itz da poor petrol car owners who are subsidising off road fun rides and extensive travelling by diesel vehicle owners....

if diesel vehicle taxes are to go down and match with the petrol taxes, the subsidy on diesel should also be lifted

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well i dont quite agree wit da insane tax increase on buses, loories etc(if datz da case)... but the government is trying to squeeze every penny out of pockets and they want it done by way of indirect taxes such that the general public don't see the real impact of the tax, most Sri Lankans have absolutely no idea as to how their quality of life is gonna change(dramatically) by the increase of taxes on buses/lorries etc., every time the vegetable prices or the bus fares hike the government blame it on the profiteering of businessman and ppl buy that ... damn this stupid country!

[The Don]

Isuru,

Fuel subsidies are a part of most ecconomies in the world, what is happening in our country is our inefficient tax system which is corrupt as well as being very inefficient has ensured that our government is always cash strapped in all its endevours.

And our prevailing blame culture has ensured that none of these problems are going to be solved anytime soon. We all spend our time moaning and blaming eachother for everything while not actually engaging in a productive process to find solutions to our countries problems. The reason why we have such crazy taxes on things considered "luxuary items" are well known fact,

A. Atleast 25% of our population live below the poverty line and thus cannot afford to pay TAX and needs support.

B. Only a very small percentage of people in our country actually pay the right amount of TAX due, I remember the central bank chief mention a figure like 30%, not sure about this.

C. Most of the top 10% of earners in SL who should be paying the most tax are tax fraudsters one way or the other.

D. Widespread corruption in the tax system.

E. For a developing ecconomy we have a generous social security system, with free healthcare and education which cost a lot of money.

People forget we are the ones who have made the system corrupt, if we didn't offer bribes or refuse to pay up there would not be bribe takers would there. If more people concentrated on what they can do rather than blaming everybody else, I think we all would actually get somewhere. None of this is aimed at you mate ok.

Public transport in any ecconomy must be encouraged, I know we all love our cars, but hey, carbon emmissions are going up, global warming has contributed freak weather conditions which affect us all living in an island out of all things, and our ecconomy is being drained paying for all the fuel imports.

Thus a fuel subsidy for vehicles used for public transport is justified. Problem is in a country like ours its not easy to enforce a subsidy on ONLY public transport vehicles, thus a blanket subsidy on diesel has become necessary.

I personally think people should be encouraged to use diesel vehicles for daily comutes because they are more energy efficient, and are becoming cleaner by the day. And thus I am in favour for getting rid of the ridiculous taxes on diesel vehicles.

But at the same time I do understand why it is there, and unfortunately for that to happen, money has to come from some other place and I dont see it coming.

Its sad that a lot of us here work for companies and thus do pay proper income tax have to bear the burden of all the tax dodgers arround us but hey such is life

The Don

[isurujosh]

Isuru,

Fuel subsidies are a part of most ecconomies in the world, what is happening in our country is our inefficient tax system which is corrupt as well as being very inefficient has ensured that our government is always cash strapped in all its endevours.

And our prevailing blame culture has ensured that none of these problems are going to be solved anytime soon. We all spend our time moaning and blaming eachother for everything while not actually engaging in a productive process to find solutions to our countries problems. The reason why we have such crazy taxes on things considered "luxuary items" are well known fact,

A. Atleast 25% of our population live below the poverty line and thus cannot afford to pay TAX and needs support.

B. Only a very small percentage of people in our country actually pay the right amount of TAX due, I remember the central bank chief mention a figure like 30%, not sure about this.

C. Most of the top 10% of earners in SL who should be paying the most tax are tax fraudsters one way or the other.

D. Widespread corruption in the tax system.

E. For a developing ecconomy we have a generous social security system, with free healthcare and education which cost a lot of money.

People forget we are the ones who have made the system corrupt, if we didn't offer bribes or refuse to pay up there would not be bribe takers would there. If more people concentrated on what they can do rather than blaming everybody else, I think we all would actually get somewhere. None of this is aimed at you mate ok.

Public transport in any ecconomy must be encouraged, I know we all love our cars, but hey, carbon emmissions are going up, global warming has contributed freak weather conditions which affect us all living in an island out of all things, and our ecconomy is being drained paying for all the fuel imports.

Thus a fuel subsidy for vehicles used for public transport is justified. Problem is in a country like ours its not easy to enforce a subsidy on ONLY public transport vehicles, thus a blanket subsidy on diesel has become necessary.

I personally think people should be encouraged to use diesel vehicles for daily comutes because they are more energy efficient, and are becoming cleaner by the day. And thus I am in favour for getting rid of the ridiculous taxes on diesel vehicles.

But at the same time I do understand why it is there, and unfortunately for that to happen, money has to come from some other place and I dont see it coming.

Its sad that a lot of us here work for companies and thus do pay proper income tax have to bear the burden of all the tax dodgers arround us but hey such is life

The Don

true true sir life is such! ... but this government is on the wrong track i guess, for them to tax the hell out there should have been wealth accumulated over time... FDR coud not have taxed the hell out and revived the economy of the great depression if the economic florishes of the early 1930s and the late 1920s had not been there!!! i still dont think that our country can take this much heat(tax) on a sustainbale basis...

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one thing i want to assure to you is that i am not 100% against the diesel subsidy but my point was to assure percles that huge tax on pvt. diesel vehicles is justice as pertrol subsidises diesel, and pvt. consumption of diesel shoul be discouraged by way of constraining pvt. diesel vehicle imports!