Montero 4m41 conversion

[Stryker]

Hi guys,

Anyone with experience on converting a montero v75 to a diesel 4m41 please asnwer the following questions 

1. Reliable place to get this conversion done and labour cost for it ? (I have sourced the 4m41 kit for 1.5mn but didnt commit yet as i dont have a reliable place)

2. Complications/ compatibility issues with such conversions ?

3. Apparently the v98 4m41 engine also fits and i prefer putting in a newer engine, but will there be more complications like mounting issues etc?

4. Process of legalizing this conversion at the RMV. 

5. What happens to the number? Its a G* - xxxx number . 

TIA

 

[iRage]

Sorry...I won't be answering your questions...but I do have a few questions/facts I would like to throw a you to consider...

If one is doing a petrol to diesel conversion, just dropping in a diesel engine does not make it a GOOD conversion. Many maka baases will just do it, but by just doing that you are literally ruining your car. To do a proper conversion you need to look at upgrading the front cross memebers, and other weld points, suspension components, etc...to deal with the extra vibrations, etc...then there is the additional sound insulation as well. All this is going ot cost a lot of money. Even then you are not going to have a proper factory finish (and you never will short of doing a nut and bolt restore on every single component of the engine and the car). When you try to sell it off....proper enthusiasts will have a lot of red flags about the conversion that you will need to address (which again is going ot effect your resale price). the ones who will appreciate the diesel engine are 99% of the time are the "thel higanna" <pardon the use of the term> type who would bargain a cheap price. Then there is the whole point of getting the conversion registered, which can be a hassle. You may need to file a request, get permissin (and at times even get an inspection done at Werahara); then do it, take all the new engine purchase paper work and file it and then go for another inspection, then wait until they update the CR, plates and send it to you (which during these days of inefficiency can take ions)

Now..given the above, are you sure you want to do a conversion ? Considering the cost of a conversion and the loss in value, are you sure it would not be cheaper and better to buy an already diesel vehicle ?

[tiv]

Why would you want to do a diesel conversion?

Making it a diesel convert will not help the selling price and market as well as it will be labelled converted!

The petrol one is so smooth compared to the diesels. Given the fuel prices and cost, you are better off rebuilding the petrol one. 

I've been drooling at the 2007-2010 petrol 3.8l ones for ages now, never could get my hands on one

[iRage]

So to repeat what I said...if you are really set on wanting a diesel (for whateer reason); then why not sell the Petrol and BUY a diesel ?

[Stryker]

  On 3/13/2022 at 1:11 AM, iRage said:

So to repeat what I said...if you are really set on wanting a diesel (for whateer reason); then why not sell the Petrol and BUY a diesel ?

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That was my original idea too

But from what i understand, the complete conversion kit is around 1.5mn (engine, wire harness, meterboard, fuel tank etc etc ) assuming labour is 500k ????? So it costs me 2mn to convert 

Selling this is and buying a v78, i have to spend extra around 3 to 3.5mn...

Hence this decsion.

But i am very undecided

[iRage]

  On 3/13/2022 at 12:02 PM, Stryker said:

That was my original idea too

But from what i understand, the complete conversion kit is around 1.5mn (engine, wire harness, meterboard, fuel tank etc etc ) assuming labour is 500k ????? So it costs me 2mn to convert 

Selling this is and buying a v78, i have to spend extra around 3 to 3.5mn...

Hence this decsion.

But i am very undecided

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Like I said....a proper diesel conversion will require you to swap a lot more than that list of items. We are taking about the front cross member, higher rated suspension bushings, extra sound deadening, conversion of the meter panel, etc... (also, I am not sure about the Pajero, you might even have to change out the transfer cases and the differentials as the ratios might be different). So I am rather skeptical about 1.5 mil actually covering a PROPER and COMPLETE conversion. There are plenty of baases who will stick a diesel engine in it..make it run and then say everything is fine...but those cars become complete and utter garbage.After sometime the vibration alone makes all the interior and exterior panels shake out of place, the car runs like a asthmatic dog, and the list goes on.  Then a half a$$ conversion is going to actually reduce the value of your car..there for the additional depreciation will also be an extra cost on you...so your cost is now nearing that 3 - 3.5mil mark of buying an original diesel.

Also, lets not forget...prices are skyrocketing...so your 1.5mil might have been valid sometime ago but hard to imagine it will be the case now...even if the components are already in the country, they were paid for in dollars and typically these businesses operate on borrowed cash and they will chage you at new exchange rates (because that is what they have to pay their borrowings from or what their investment was).