Isn't This Illegal

Az · July 30, 2008

Isn't selling permit cars before 5 years of usage illegal? http://autolanka.com/ad.asp?ID=6888

The Don · July 30, 2008

Az said:
Isn't selling permit cars before 5 years of usage illegal? http://autolanka.com/ad.asp?ID=6888

Well you certainly have the eyes of an eagle, I'll give you that ! (I didn't notice the red "D" under the dash)

Yes its very much illegal !

Overdrive · July 30, 2008

The Don said:
Well you certainly have the eyes of an eagle, I'll give you that ! (I didn't notice the red "D" under the dash)
Yes its very much illegal !

isnt that p for permit?

Pericles · July 30, 2008

No, the P is for Petrol. Its just red if its on permit.

Interesting situ.

ferrarif50 · July 31, 2008

yes... that P and the dash is red! , isnt it ?

dinosh · July 31, 2008

If the purchaser is willing to run on 'open papers' it should be ok. But it will not be a legal sale...

Btw for 6.2mil a b/new one can be purchased, right??

ferrarif50 · July 31, 2008

dinosh said:
If the purchaser is willing to run on 'open papers' it should be ok. But it will not be a legal sale...
Btw for 6.2mil a b/new one can be purchased, right??

u need to pay only about 2.5 mil under the permit ! see the differnce

priya · July 31, 2008

ferrarif50 said:
u need to pay only about 2.5 mil under the permit ! see the differnce

And the seller earning a frightful amount of illegal petty cash! By abusing his privileges.

Stingray · July 31, 2008

Well it certainly is illegal!

Cant the admin take a decision by reporting this?

all credit should go to AZ though!

madmax · July 31, 2008

You can't run it on open papers. As the owner can not even sign the papers legally before 5 years. Anyway what is the price of this car brand new? Considering it's a petrol you don't need a permit to get it down in the first place. Owner and he says it's a permit car. And what's funny is he admits that the brand new price from Toyota Lanka itself is 6.2 Million.

Edited July 31, 2008 by madmax

mazdaspeed · July 31, 2008

Stingray said:
Well it certainly is illegal!
Cant the admin take a decision by reporting this?

all credit should go to AZ though!

Yes I agree – after all we have had some heated debates on this – it’s Just unfair people selling this for a thumping amount and having a profit. Some families have got 2 permits which I think is F%*king crazy

Can we report this to an authority ?

Supra_Natural · July 31, 2008

mazdaspeed said:
Yes I agree – after all we have had some heated debates on this – it’s Just unfair people selling this for a thumping amount and having a profit. Some families have got 2 permits which I think is F%*king crazy

Can we report this to an authority ?

I don't think we can complain about some families getting 2 permits dude.... if there are two people in the family who qualify, then thats all right... they HAVE worked for the privilege after all...

But this is just patently illegal, does anyone know if a complaint can be made?

dinosh · July 31, 2008

madmax said:
You can't run it on open papers. As the owner can not even sign the papers legally before 5 years. Anyway what is the price of this car brand new? Considering it's a petrol you don't need a permit to get it down in the first place. Owner and he says it's a permit car. And what's funny is he admits that the brand new price from Toyota Lanka itself is 6.2 Million.

Which means it should be based on a personal agreement only between the seller & the purchaser which will be legally unacceptable!!

oshad · July 31, 2008

Well there is one way of this transaction being legal. If the owner pays the due duty to the customs, which was exempted earlier, there should be no problem in selling it. The NGO's and all when selling there vehicles does the same thing, where when they auction off the vehicles you get the duty paid documents which they do prior to selling the vehicles if they are brought down under duty free schemes.

Even I noticed the red dash and my thinking was dat the owner was quoting 6.2Mil with the duty he has to pay. But if he doesn't this certainly is illegal.

miniace · July 31, 2008

oshad said:
Well there is one way of this transaction being legal. If the owner pays the due duty to the customs, which was exempted earlier, there should be no problem in selling it. The NGO's and all when selling there vehicles does the same thing, where when they auction off the vehicles you get the duty paid documents which they do prior to selling the vehicles if they are brought down under duty free schemes.
Even I noticed the red dash and my thinking was dat the owner was quoting 6.2Mil with the duty he has to pay. But if he doesn't this certainly is illegal.

Guess you got it wrong there mate. There is no way the owner can sell a recently offered permit concession car even after paying duty and make the transaction legal. It is clearly declared in the permit conformity.

Anyhow the JHU bikku Ellawala Medananda publicly admitted of selling his duty free permit to businessman and nothing happened so far. Guess the general public is following the steps of our own parliamentarians and especially the examples set by the “Buddha Puthras”

MINIACE

miniace · July 31, 2008

Good pick Az !!

MINIACE

Ripper · July 31, 2008

miniace said:
Guess you got it wrong there mate. There is no way the owner can sell a recently offered permit concession car even after paying duty and make the transaction legal. It is clearly declared in the permit conformity.
Anyhow the JHU bikku Ellawala Medananda publicly admitted of selling his duty free permit to businessman and nothing happened so far. Guess the general public is following the steps of our own parliamentarians and especially the examples set by the “Buddha Puthras”

MINIACE

good point and well said ace when so called "leaders" and supposedly "respected" folks starts abusing these things...you can't expect good doctor deen here not to

only the smaller sprats down the food chain have to pay for all these things finally while the lokkas nicely rip-off public money...

oshad · July 31, 2008

Yep in the case of that sort of Clause then .. yes there is no way he going to be able to sell the car. Thanks for Clarifying MiniAce

miniace · July 31, 2008

oshad said:
Yep in the case of that sort of Clause then .. yes there is no way he going to be able to sell the car. Thanks for Clarifying MiniAce

Cheers!

MINIACE

mazdaspeed · July 31, 2008

Supra_Natural said:
I don't think we can complain about some families getting 2 permits dude.... if there are two people in the family who qualify, then thats all right... they HAVE worked for the privilege after all...
But this is just patently illegal, does anyone know if a complaint can be made?

by bad- wording error - I was meaning the selling of the car under the permit

Pericles · August 1, 2008

Thing is, its not illegal unless a transaction takes place. As such its not illegal to advertise it. Immoral, maybe. But unless as least an agreement at a transaction is reached, I doubt it's illegal. I suppose you can report it, but then, even the cops will have to set up a fake buy operation and catch him at it. Just advertising it probably won't be enough.

Az · August 1, 2008

Pericles said:
Thing is, its not illegal unless a transaction takes place. As such its not illegal to advertise it. Immoral, maybe. But unless as least an agreement at a transaction is reached, I doubt it's illegal. I suppose you can report it, but then, even the cops will have to set up a fake buy operation and catch him at it. Just advertising it probably won't be enough.

Well, the intention of advertising that vehicle is to find a buyer and conduct a transaction. Isn't conspiring to commit an illegal activity itself an illegal act? For example, several people who have put illegal advertisements on eBay have been arrested in the recent past... I remember somebody trying to auction a baby or something like that on eBay and getting arrested

The Don · August 1, 2008

Pericles said:
Thing is, its not illegal unless a transaction takes place. As such its not illegal to advertise it. Immoral, maybe. But unless as least an agreement at a transaction is reached, I doubt it's illegal. I suppose you can report it, but then, even the cops will have to set up a fake buy operation and catch him at it. Just advertising it probably won't be enough.

I think as AZ said this could be considered "conspiring to commit a crime" which is a crime on its own light. What I am surprised by is how openly this is done !

As for the Bikku who Miniace mentioned, its hardly surprising these things happen considering our so called "moral authorities" themselves cannot even obey the simple letter of the law so enlightenment is certainly a long way away ! (and certainly for us idiots who follow such "Budhdha Puthras its even further away !)

Pericles · August 1, 2008

Az said:
Well, the intention of advertising that vehicle is to find a buyer and conduct a transaction. Isn't conspiring to commit an illegal activity itself an illegal act? For example, several people who have put illegal advertisements on eBay have been arrested in the recent past... I remember somebody trying to auction a baby or something like that on eBay and getting arrested

eBay is a transaction site. AL is just an advertising medium. He can claim he changed his mind if contacted.

Besides, can't be so quick to judge. Just thinking about the act doesn't mean you plan to follow thru with it. Ever think "I'm gonna kill that guy for doing that"? Or, "Damn, we need to rob a bank"?