A Toyota 121 Accident

[Pericles]

yes both get marks, but Higher marks for Civic is that true?????

Lets see

Corolla

Front - 4 stars

Side (rear pass) - 4 stars

side (Driver) - 5 stars

Civic

Front - 5

Side (rear pass) - 5

side (Driver) - 4

Both have "Top Safety Pick" from Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

Pretty even for the driver.

And by the way, these ratings are for the new 2010 Corolla, whatever they have in the States, not the 121.

BTW -

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Crash-Tests:-What-You-Need-to-Know/

"If we ran all tests at high speeds, all cars would do poorly."

" A car with top crash test ratings isn't a car that's guaranteed to be crash-free."

Have you ever seen a car in a high speed crash before?

i think you owns a 121 peri.

You see what happens when you don't read properly before jumping into assumptions? My car is stated in my profile. My car, and cars that I drive are freely discussed in the forums. The only extended drive I've had in a 121 was driving Madz's Luxel to Tissa. You think? You don't think. You've just assumed. You are wrong. Wrong about what I drive, wrong about the assumptions you made on car safety.

Now stop wasting my time.

[jami]

Lets see

Corolla

Front - 4 stars

Side (rear pass) - 4 stars

side (Driver) - 5 stars

Civic

Front - 5

Side (rear pass) - 5

side (Driver) - 4

Both have "Top Safety Pick" from Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

Pretty even for the driver.

And by the way, these ratings are for the new 2010 Corolla, whatever they have in the States, not the 121.

BTW -

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Crash-Tests:-What-You-Need-to-Know/

"If we ran all tests at high speeds, all cars would do poorly."

" A car with top crash test ratings isn't a car that's guaranteed to be crash-free."

Have you ever seen a car in a high speed crash before?

You see what happens when you don't read properly before jumping into assumptions? My car is stated in my profile. My car, and cars that I drive are freely discussed in the forums. The only extended drive I've had in a 121 was driving Madz's Luxel to Tissa. You think? You don't think. You've just assumed. You are wrong. Wrong about what I drive, wrong about the assumptions you made on car safety.

Now stop wasting my time.

The question is what is more safe corolla or civic.

And you have given the answer,

Corolla

Front - 4 stars

Side (rear pass) - 4 stars

side (Driver) - 5 stars

Total - 13

Civic

Front - 5

Side (rear pass) - 5

side (Driver) - 4

Total - 14

so according to this i prefer civic is more safer than corolla.

[heavyD]

Heard this guy hadn't paid his premiums and insurance had been cancelled...man is no longer with us.

That sucks... not the best way to go.

[Pericles]

The question is what is more safe corolla or civic.

And you have given the answer,

Corolla

Front - 4 stars

Side (rear pass) - 4 stars

side (Driver) - 5 stars

Total - 13

Civic

Front - 5

Side (rear pass) - 5

side (Driver) - 4

Total - 14

so according to this i prefer civic is more safer than corolla.

Didn't I say stop wasting my time? If you don't know how to read safety reviews, you really shouldn't try to keep going. The numbers I put are an extract. AND you don't just total them. And personally, I prefer having greater driver safety in a side collision, I trust my driving enough that I will live with a lower head on score for a better side impact score.

Besides, your preference wasn't what was in question here. Go back and see what you said.

[xXx]

Didn't I say stop wasting my time? If you don't know how to read safety reviews, you really shouldn't try to keep going. The numbers I put are an extract. AND you don't just total them. And personally, I prefer having greater driver safety in a side collision, I trust my driving enough that I will live with a lower head on score for a better side impact score.

Besides, your preference wasn't what was in question here. Go back and see what you said.

Am i seen this right? Is Peri defending a Corolla??? hahaha just kidding...

Anyway we are seen some strange phenomenons in the forum lately. I think i saw someone justifying high markups kept by car sales guys in the 406 coupe thread LOL....

[blkr6]

its very unlikely that anybody survived in this car. i don see a reson to blame the car. Toyota's are very safe cars for the money you pay (when you exclude pedal situations). if you want the safest car you have to pay more. in this world you cant get everything with out compromising something else. there is a reason that i ride a scooter. lol

Edited October 17, 2010 by blkr6

[Ripper]

Am i seen this right? Is Peri defending a Corolla??? hahaha just kidding...

Anyway we are seen some strange phenomenons in the forum lately. I think i saw someone justifying high markups kept by car sales guys in the 406 coupe thread LOL....

i think he's fighting for a bit of common sense!

[Jermaine]

I totally agree, Toyota only look for the money not safety at first........ But In UAE the story is different people drive the vehicle more faster and lots of accident but less people die, And one thing they use more Toyota Land cruiser here and it built with hard body (Left Hand Drive), so accident happened structure get safe in some amount.

But in Our country the TOYOTA body get crashed to smaller pieces when it meets an accident I DONT KNOW WHY.........

Hi,

I beleive the reason for this is the domestic and export models, that toyota have.

see export models are produced mainly in Thailand, and the domestic models are the original Japaneese made cars.

hence we have the Butt ugly Corolla 141 with bicycle reflectors on the bumper, and my latest favourit mass purchased car the axio.

its the same with Prados the TZ models are export and for some reason feel lesser in quality than the TX which are the vehicles produced by the japs.

anyway you cant blame the car, or the maker, the general expectation when buying a toyota corolla or a similar car such as a sunny B15 N16 whatevr, is cheap to buy and FUEL ECONOMY and if they were to make these cars stronger they would be more expensive and also less fuel efficient, the light weight recycled salmon tin body is a major contributor to its fuel efficiency.

the problem here is inexperienced drivers, who cant handle what the engine deliveres to them coupled with the un expected condition on the roads of our country, judging by the corolla here the driver was pushing the living daylights out of his car.

on a bumpy road in an area like polonnaruwa where ther is a lot of wind it takes only very little for a car like that to catch some wind under the car and become completely un controlable by the looks of the pictures and the lack of blood it looks like only driver in car, which makes it a very light weight to toss.

Bottom line the corolla is a mid ranged family saloon meant for "responsible dad or mum" kind of driving if you wanna race hang a coroola and by your self a car with a bit more of a racing pedigree.

Dude dont diss the build quality of the corolla, although it costs a fortune here thanks to taxes its quite a cheap car abroad and hence you get what you pay for.

there is a difference between quick and fast, driving fast and just flooring it, think and always look way ahead when driving, you can minimize a lot of un expected shit that come up on the road.

also drive fast coz you can and not to show off, the worst driver is a driver who drives to show off.

Thanks J. :rolleyes:

[seeker]

The question is what is more safe corolla or civic.

And you have given the answer,

Corolla

Front - 4 stars

Side (rear pass) - 4 stars

side (Driver) - 5 stars

Total - 13

Civic

Front - 5

Side (rear pass) - 5

side (Driver) - 4

Total - 14

so according to this i prefer civic is more safer than corolla.

Good. Point taken. U understand the concepts very well.

Now go drive the CIVIC made in USA, reviewed in USA for conditions and standards in USA.

In case somebody else is interested in my two cents:

It's the driver... more than the car that makes a difference.

You can Drive a Morris Minor or a Ferrari... A good driver will know the general capabilities of a car and will handle it accordingly.

Reality is that SL roads aren't designed for high speed driving. If you drive like a madman and survive the trip, it's just that U were damn lucky, Nothing else..

[Watchman]

on the topic of accidents,

I saw some photos on FB of a Vios+Subaru accident, any idea what happened there?

[Mani]

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/car

Have you hear the Famous "Toyota pedal of death".

Just Google it, you 'll able to find more facts on this, i am not trying t say that Toyota is bad, but the story behind Toyota is not good as we think.

It is a common factor that Honda is a more safety car than Toyota.

Where should I start?

[Alchemist]

Guys would u think the JDM 141 Axio would have a better chance in an accident like this??

[madmax]

Where should I start?

I'm sure you've got some insider info on the runaway Prius hoax...

[MkX]

Guys would u think the JDM 141 Axio would have a better chance in an accident like this??

Survival from this kind of accident will not much depend on the type of vehicle. May be some thing to do with your "Karma".

If you drive too fast without respecting your life or people around you.. you can't expect some thing good in return.. can you?

[Pericles]

Guys would u think the JDM 141 Axio would have a better chance in an accident like this??

No.

[Mani]

All the major manufacturers are building cars to a set standard based on where the car is sold. There are minor changes such as side impact beams that is required on vehicles sold in most US states. There is no car in the world, short of a tank, that can withstand this sort of an impact.

As to the Toyota unintended acceleration issue; don’t drink the coolaid. The US roads are filled with people who have got no clue as to how to operate a vehicle. Getting a drivers license here is just a joke. When I got my license, it took all of 15 minutes which included the 500 feet or so that I had to drive to prove that I’m capable of operating a vehicle. You can easily train a monkey to pass the driving test here. All the unintended acceleration issues with Toyotas have been debunked and proven to be driver error. People were stepping on the throttle thinking that they are applying the brakes.

[Buddhika M H]

All the major manufacturers are building cars to a set standard based on where the car is sold. There are minor changes such as side impact beams that is required on vehicles sold in most US states. There is no car in the world, short of a tank, that can withstand this sort of an impact.

As to the Toyota unintended acceleration issue; don’t drink the coolaid. The US roads are filled with people who have got no clue as to how to operate a vehicle. Getting a drivers license here is just a joke. When I got my license, it took all of 15 minutes which included the 500 feet or so that I had to drive to prove that I’m capable of operating a vehicle. You can easily train a monkey to pass the driving test here. All the unintended acceleration issues with Toyotas have been debunked and proven to be driver error. People were stepping on the throttle thinking that they are applying the brakes.

Really dont want to get into this conversation reading the rest of the thread, but since the thread seems to get some hang with the last few replies,

didnt Toyota acted as they accepted their fault in that accelerator issue? i remember reading few news items like that. Especially way the Toyoda replied?

Anyway I too think US media and people tried to blow it out of proportions for their gain

[Mani]

The choice was to either accept the 'blame' or blame the customer. After having recalled over 8 million vehicles, Toyota took the former approach, rightfully so. Recently, there have been many news reports blaming the media for all the hype. If you're to read some of the news articles you would think that Toyotas have a mind of their own and accelerate out of control on their own. After all this is said and done, no accident was link to sticking throttle.

[heavyD]

The US roads are filled with people who have got no clue as to how to operate a vehicle. Getting a drivers license here is just a joke. When I got my license, it took all of 15 minutes which included the 500 feet or so that I had to drive to prove that I’m capable of operating a vehicle. You can easily train a monkey to pass the driving test here. All the unintended acceleration issues with Toyotas have been debunked and proven to be driver error. People were stepping on the throttle thinking that they are applying the brakes.

That sounds more like SL!

[jami]

on the topic of accidents,

I saw some photos on FB of a Vios+Subaru accident, any idea what happened there?

vios ---------- get

[GihanFX]

Ex, Gihan's STI hasn't crashed with any vehicle. The driver lost the control when he getting the corner & it has just air blown & rolled. But here it has knocked on a Leyland Lorry. May be the speed has exeeded 150+ & may haven't got a chance even to apply brakes. Also the Allion crashed on a tree & it has directly hit the roof of the vehicle.

wrong

The Driver went straight without turning and the car didn't rolled at all, it just hit the barriers, two concrete posts, tritel phone booth and finally it hit the Electracity board huger wiring roll and stopped, other than the body damage Engine, Gearbox, all axles, brake disks, drive shaft, exhaust, suspension, read diff are all broken, anyway since the court case is still going on i dont want to mention the speed he was driving.

No matter what car you drive if u have the luck u can escape, when u see these pics can u believe both driver and the passenger walked out of the car without a single scratch even ?

[madmax]

No matter what car you drive if u have the luck u can escape, when u see these pics can u believe both driver and the passenger walked out of the car without a single scratch even ?

Unlike the 121 pictures, the cabin is intact in these - so that seems very possible.

[terrabytetango]

I looked up Lakehouse for any info on the 121 accident, all I could find was a byline stating 4 passengers were in the car, including a woman who was severely injured. So I'm assuming no one kicked the bucket at the scene at least. My theory is that since it was highly unlikely they were wearing seat belts, they must've been flung out of the car when it started spinning like a top after hitting the embankment.

[jaga]

There was an another accident at Rajagiriya on Saturday . One 121 had gone over the centre island after braking a lamp post at the right middle of the road. Has anybody seen?

Car was badly damaged.

[scds]

see so many accidents with fairly new cars these days. It seems after the war, people are traveling more especially to outstations...