A Toyota 121 Accident

heavyD · October 13, 2010

I bet Dilukshan would say that the chinese build the best roads too so your fears are unfounded

'Made in China' no...

MasterDon · October 13, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7PlahuBYnE

jami · October 13, 2010

do you have any facts to base that comment on??

nowadays most toyotas if not all have excellent crash test ratings! also they have been equipped with all industry standard safety features available for that category of vehicles.

So according your post if a cruiser crash in UAE it receives less damaged than if an LC crash in SL?

And FYI...a land cruiser will always have better chance of survival when compared to a car like a 121...or an allion for that matter.

Also in UAE and in other developed countries...medi care and medivac services are far superior to SL...injured people can be airlifted to hospitals with far better ER's giving that extra bit of time to intervene and possible save their lives...

It's got nothing to do with lesser quality toyotas coming to SL and getting it crashed to small pieces like you say!

ur correct the facilities for emergency services are at a high level comparing with SL, and the medical facilities too.

In manufacturing method Toyota may built their cars in different way to UAE, the strength and power of Toyota is more higher than the ones we have in SL, may be due to the heat of the environment, speed they drive, more highways like that.

But we can assure more safety from European cars which are in SL, Like Peugeot, Audi

Even Honda is best in safety facts than Toyota

heavyD · October 13, 2010

In manufacturing method Toyota may built their cars in different way to UAE, the strength and power of Toyota is more higher than the ones we have in SL, may be due to the heat of the environment, speed they drive, more highways like that.

Yes, it's well known that cars headed for the UAE are built with components usually found on army tanks and battleships. So, no surprise there. If I remember correctly the ones they send here are generally built with the same materials used on those paper cups you get in supermarkets.... :rolleyes:

MasterDon · October 13, 2010

ur correct the facilities for emergency services are at a high level comparing with SL, and the medical facilities too.

In manufacturing method Toyota may built their cars in different way to UAE, the strength and power of Toyota is more higher than the ones we have in SL, may be due to the heat of the environment, speed they drive, more highways like that.

Even Honda is best in safety facts than Toyota

Err NO!...Toyota does not make unsafe cars for certain markets.Its true the sell cars with more powerful engines in europe.US and the Middleeast.Thats because fuel is cheap and the average car buyer in those regions like to have a bigger engine and a bit more power and fuel consumption is not the priority.But over here where even a 2ltr engine is regarded as a monster gas guzzler and people are obsessed about fuel efficiency they send their cars with smaller engines and a bit less gadgets and comforts to keep the costs down.That however does not mean they are anymore unsafe than their european models.

Pericles · October 13, 2010

ur correct the facilities for emergency services are at a high level comparing with SL, and the medical facilities too.

In manufacturing method Toyota may built their cars in different way to UAE, the strength and power of Toyota is more higher than the ones we have in SL, may be due to the heat of the environment, speed they drive, more highways like that.

But we can assure more safety from European cars which are in SL, Like Peugeot, Audi

Even Honda is best in safety facts than Toyota

Pls quote reference for the facts.

shanX · October 13, 2010

Looks like severe impact with that lorry that's on it's side. Probably rolled over a few times too. Lorry looks to be on the correct side of the road. Hard to see how anyone could have survived that.

Nope, never judge an accident. A relative of mine died in an accident, he was on a bike, on his side. After the crash, lorry driver has moved the lorry and the bike and the person to the other side of the road and the best part is a cop was there. But later they all got convicted, and the cop got fired or something.

And i came across this vid randomly -

Killer-B · October 13, 2010

I just got these pictures from email. it says Accident happened on the Pollonnaruwa Batti Road.

Looks pretty messed up, definitely would have rolled over a few times. Maybe the driver would have survived but with serious injuries, didn't happen to notice any blood too, guess driver had his seat belt on.

Most of the drivers here dosen't have any experience on loosing a little bit of road grip and going into a slide. Most would panic in such a situation and slam on the breaks rather than trying to correct the slide. What most could do is go really really fast in a straight line and hit a tree at the next corner

jami · October 13, 2010

Pls quote reference for the facts.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/car

Have you hear the Famous "Toyota pedal of death".

Just Google it, you 'll able to find more facts on this, i am not trying t say that Toyota is bad, but the story behind Toyota is not good as we think.

It is a common factor that Honda is a more safety car than Toyota.

SeanD · October 13, 2010

Nope, never judge an accident. A relative of mine died in an accident, he was on a bike, on his side. After the crash, lorry driver has moved the lorry and the bike and the person to the other side of the road and the best part is a cop was there. But later they all got convicted, and the cop got fired or something.

And i came across this vid randomly -

Sorry for your loss. I'm glad to hear justice was served at the end of the day. In the case of these photos, as the lorry paint seems to be on the left hand side of the car, either they were both on the wrong side of the road or the car lost control before it hit the lorry, and spun right into the lorry which tossed the car on to the side. As the lorry is tipped over on to the driver's side, I don't think in this case the lorry guy would have toppled it on purpose. You can imagine the speed the car was travelling at to do that kind of damage to itself, toppling a lorry in the process, while there doesn't seem to be much physical damage to the lorry But who's to know at the end of the day, if people indeed do the $**t you've mentioned above even after a life was lost.

Thumbs up to the point raised by Charitha19 about bedroom Schumachers in econoboxes.

Edited October 13, 2010 by SeanD

Bugatti · October 13, 2010

In most of the cases our road not nore ready for high speeds.

People used to speed up in outstations when they come across these nicely carpetted roads. However in a narrow road when a huge lorry or bus comes and they also speeding its just a matter of second to loose control.. may be one big stone in the road or one tyre goes off the road can end up with a tragic.

Don't blame the road man...! the drive should be horse whipped for pushing the car to the limit. It is quite evident that a 121 or similar built vehicles cannot handle it.. A sane experienced guy wouldn't do it, I guess...

I also see something like stock tyres on the wreckage.. recipe for disaster.

jdnet · October 13, 2010

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/car

Have you hear the Famous "Toyota pedal of death".

Just Google it, you 'll able to find more facts on this, i am not trying t say that Toyota is bad, but the story behind Toyota is not good as we think.

It is a common factor that Honda is a more safety car than Toyota.

The whole toyota gas pedal thing was overblown with people claiming usual stupid accidents to be caused by faulty pedals. There were only 1 or 2 accidents that were actually caused by the faulty gas pedal, even in that case the drivers were too stupid to realize that if they can't stop the car they should probably shift to neutral. Considering the volume of cars toyota manufactures each year, they have a pretty low car to death/injury ratio. BTW how about you google the Audi 5000 or the Ford pinto or Bronco II?

BTW on the statement of; "It is a common factor that Honda is a more safety car than Toyota," I would like to know where you got these facts from or did you just pull them out of thin air?

The only way to accurately compare safety, when it comes to well established corporations like Toyota and Honda, is to compare the safety between equivilant models of both companies. If you are comparing the number of accidents, the only real way is through a ratio (no. of deaths per 100 cars etc.).

Edited October 13, 2010 by jdnet

Chathurike · October 14, 2010

Don't blame the road man...! the drive should be horse whipped for pushing the car to the limit. It is quite evident that a 121 or similar built vehicles cannot handle it.. A sane experienced guy wouldn't do it, I guess...

I also see something like stock tyres on the wreckage.. recipe for disaster.

damn tru

scds · October 14, 2010

Some of us Sri Lankans think owning a new toyota is like having a Ferrari or a Lambo. Maybe they were expecting the toyota to behave like a supercar too......afterall its the most "market" car in sri lanka ne....so its gotta have all the safety features like teak interior, this badge, ara badge, that anniversary "modal", ara anniversary "modal", nickel handles, ect ect:))

Edited October 14, 2010 by scds

Ripper · October 14, 2010

The whole toyota gas pedal thing was overblown with people claiming usual stupid accidents to be caused by faulty pedals. There were only 1 or 2 accidents that were actually caused by the faulty gas pedal, even in that case the drivers were too stupid to realize that if they can't stop the car they should probably shift to neutral. Considering the volume of cars toyota manufactures each year, they have a pretty low car to death/injury ratio. BTW how about you google the Audi 5000 or the Ford pinto or Bronco II?

BTW on the statement of; "It is a common factor that Honda is a more safety car than Toyota," I would like to know where you got these facts from or did you just pull them out of thin air?

The only way to accurately compare safety, when it comes to well established corporations like Toyota and Honda, is to compare the safety between equivilant models of both companies. If you are comparing the number of accidents, the only real way is through a ratio (no. of deaths per 100 cars etc.).

lost cause mate!

Pericles · October 14, 2010

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/car

Have you hear the Famous "Toyota pedal of death".

Just Google it, you 'll able to find more facts on this, i am not trying t say that Toyota is bad, but the story behind Toyota is not good as we think.

It is a common factor that Honda is a more safety car than Toyota.

Link doesn't work. Try again pls :rolleyes:

Also, we were talking about the impact worthiness here, weren't we? Not a gas pedal issue.

MkX · October 14, 2010

Looks pretty messed up, definitely would have rolled over a few times. Maybe the driver would have survived but with serious injuries, didn't happen to notice any blood too, guess driver had his seat belt on.

Most of the drivers here dosen't have any experience on loosing a little bit of road grip and going into a slide. Most would panic in such a situation and slam on the breaks rather than trying to correct the slide. What most could do is go really really fast in a straight line and hit a tree at the next corner

Does loose of grip cause oversteering or oversteering cause to loose the grip on road? Any tips to overcome the situation?

Or thare isn't any connection between two? Any racers comments?

Edited October 14, 2010 by MkX

Pericles · October 14, 2010

Does loose of grip cause oversteering or oversteering cause to loose the grip on road? Any tips to overcome the situation?

Or thare isn't any connection between two? Any racers comments?

Errr, loss of grip is the why oversteer or understeer happen. It just depends on which wheels loose grip.

SpeedyAsA · October 14, 2010

do you have any facts to base that comment on??

nowadays most toyotas if not all have excellent crash test ratings! also they have been equipped with all industry standard safety features available for that category of vehicles.

So according your post if a cruiser crash in UAE it receives less damaged than if an LC crash in SL?

And FYI...a land cruiser will always have better chance of survival when compared to a car like a 121...or an allion for that matter.

Also in UAE and in other developed countries...medi care and medivac services are far superior to SL...injured people can be airlifted to hospitals with far better ER's giving that extra bit of time to intervene and possible save their lives...

It's got nothing to do with lesser quality toyotas coming to SL and getting it crashed to small pieces like you say!

+1 Ripper. If you have a closer look at this 121, you'll see that it's a Singapore assembled car. Alloys, XLI badge on diky, Leather seats will prove it. Also in SL we don't have such a good health care system. These guys are trying to prove that Toyota's are in lower quality with this kind of incedents. But they are not in a position to consider the factors, what type of an accident it is, where it has crashed, what kind of an object hit on it etc..

Ex, Gihan's STI hasn't crashed with any vehicle. The driver lost the control when he getting the corner & it has just air blown & rolled. But here it has knocked on a Leyland Lorry. May be the speed has exeeded 150+ & may haven't got a chance even to apply brakes. Also the Allion crashed on a tree & it has directly hit the roof of the vehicle.

jerryda · October 14, 2010

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/toyota_corolla_2007/285.aspx

Chathurike · October 14, 2010

Some of us Sri Lankans think owning a new toyota is like having a Ferrari or a Lambo. Maybe they were expecting the toyota to behave like a supercar too......afterall its the most "market" car in sri lanka ne....so its gotta have all the safety features like teak interior, this badge, ara badge, that anniversary "modal", ara anniversary "modal", nickel handles, ect ect:))

lol

jami · October 15, 2010

Link doesn't work. Try again pls

Also, we were talking about the impact worthiness here, weren't we? Not a gas pedal issue.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/Affordable-Small-Cars/

Pericles · October 16, 2010

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/Affordable-Small-Cars/

Dude, if you don't know how to read, how about you stop wasting everyones time? From your links.

The 2010 Toyota Corolla does well in federal government crash tests, and gets top marks in insurance industry tests.
...

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety named the 2010 Corolla a Top Safety Pick for its performance in their crash tests.

Given the Corolla recall, it may seem odd for it to win a safety award. However, the award is given for the car's performance in crash tests, not for its likelihood of being in a crash.

...

Even the Standard trim level gets side air bags, head/curtain air bags, anti-lock brakes and active head restraints that instantly move to cushion an occupant's head if the Corolla is hit from behind

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Toyota_Corolla/Safety/

The 2010 Honda Civic does very well in government crash tests...
In crash tests by the insurance industry, the 4-door sedan model scored high enough marks to earn a "Top Safety Pick" award for 2010.

...

Unfortunately, Vehicle Stability Assist and Brake Assist are standard only for the EX-L and SI trims.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Honda_Civic/Safety/

Looks like they both get good marks. Therefore, your

It is a common factor that Honda is a more safety car than Toyota.

Is sorta ...

SeanD · October 16, 2010

Heard this guy hadn't paid his premiums and insurance had been cancelled...man is no longer with us.

jami · October 16, 2010

Dude, if you don't know how to read, how about you stop wasting everyones time? From your links.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Toyota_Corolla/Safety/

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Honda_Civic/Safety/

Looks like they both get good marks. Therefore, your

Is sorta ...

yes both get marks, but Higher marks for Civic is that true?????

i think you owns a 121 peri. :rolleyes:

Edited October 16, 2010 by jami