Lancer Cs1 Suspension

[trinity]

Hi Friends,,,

I believe its time to replace suspensions of my car,, (front & rear) i dont want to put reconditions nor genuine ones,,, how about KYB?? can you guys please enlighten me about the prices & all,, really appreciate the support,,(JD I believe you know the subject well )

Thanks in advance

[Davy]

Hi Friends,,,

I believe its time to replace suspensions of my car,, (front & rear) i dont want to put reconditions nor genuine ones,,, how about KYB?? can you guys please enlighten me about the prices & all,, really appreciate the support,,(JD I believe you know the subject well )

Thanks in advance

Trinity,

I'd recommend KYB. I got the rear shockabsorbers for my Lancer CS3 from the KYB agents (Not sure I'm allowed to say the name here, Google it and you'll find 'em ). I didn't forget to check out the price of the front shocks as well.

Front: About Rs. 11,000 (per shock)

Rear: Rs. 8250 (per shock)

If your shock boots are worn out, you'd better purchase them as well, that wont cost you much. I'm not sure why you think that it's time to replace the shocks, but I suggest you take your Lancer for an inspection to make sure other suspension components (tie rod ends, rack ends etc.) are intact as well.

Hope this helps.

[Sisira Kumara]

Hi Friends,,,

I believe its time to replace suspensions of my car,, (front & rear) i dont want to put reconditions nor genuine ones,,, how about KYB?? can you guys please enlighten me about the prices & all,, really appreciate the support,,(JD I believe you know the subject well )

Thanks in advance

I replaced the shock absorbers of our townace (KR42) with KYB and didn't felt any difference from the old once I removed, but after replacing them with Toyota genuine shock absorbers felt a real difference in handling and comfort.

thats my experience better to check with others about KYB on CS1.

[trinity]

Trinity,

I'd recommend KYB. I got the rear shockabsorbers for my Lancer CS3 from the KYB agents (Not sure I'm allowed to say the name here, Google it and you'll find 'em ). I didn't forget to check out the price of the front shocks as well.

Front: About Rs. 11,000 (per shock)

Rear: Rs. 8250 (per shock)

If your shock boots are worn out, you'd better purchase them as well, that wont cost you much. I'm not sure why you think that it's time to replace the shocks, but I suggest you take your Lancer for an inspection to make sure other suspension components (tie rod ends, rack ends etc.) are intact as well.

Hope this helps.

Hi Mate

Thanks for the info,, sorry for the late reply ,,i was out of the country for the last two months, i replaced the rack ends & tie rods few maonths back when befor getting a wheel alignment done.. ride is not smooth anymore,, thats why i want to replace the shocks,, anyway its nice to find a lancer owner,, not many to find these days ,, is your car having manual or auto transmission??

[kush]

Hi

Go with the KYB. My prvious was a CS1 and at 30K I had to replace the front shoks. KYB was 1/4 cost in 2004 and they have lasted over 100k and 6 years (according to the current owner of the vehicle)

I wouild advice you to check on the rears before replacement cos they generally last over 100k.

Hope this was helpful

[Davy]

Hi Mate

Thanks for the info,, sorry for the late reply ,,i was out of the country for the last two months, i replaced the rack ends & tie rods few maonths back when befor getting a wheel alignment done.. ride is not smooth anymore,, thats why i want to replace the shocks,, anyway its nice to find a lancer owner,, not many to find these days ,, is your car having manual or auto transmission??

Hi Trinity,

Sorry for the massive delay in replying, I was not around for quite some time. Nice to see you on the forum too. My Lancer is a 2001 CS3A. 1.6L (4G18) engine, Manual transmission.

Did you change your car's shocks? Hope you can the updated prices if and when you buy them. Thanks!

Davy

[trinity]

Hi Trinity,

Sorry for the massive delay in replying, I was not around for quite some time. Nice to see you on the forum too. My Lancer is a 2001 CS3A. 1.6L (4G18) engine, Manual transmission.

Did you change your car's shocks? Hope you can the updated prices if and when you buy them. Thanks!

Davy

Hi Davy

Sorry for the delay machan,, Having a very busy life these days. I still couldnt change the shocks but was able to check the prices. K*B front shock is arount 13,000/- . I'll let you klnow the exact price when i buy them. Hopefully i'll be able to do so in couple of weeks.. So i was wondering how a lancer 1.6 engine would perform, i mean pulling power & fule economy etc.. Mine is having 1.3, it does about 13-14kmpl long distance & city around 11. Is it the same with you?? My car is all good but the lacking pulling power. Hope 1.6 probably drive fantastically... And one other thing machan,, do you have front fog lights? was trying to buy a couple for my car but could not find.. Any idea of a place where i could check on them also...

Best regards:rolleyes:

[trinity]

Hi Trinity,

Sorry for the massive delay in replying, I was not around for quite some time. Nice to see you on the forum too. My Lancer is a 2001 CS3A. 1.6L (4G18) engine, Manual transmission.

Did you change your car's shocks? Hope you can the updated prices if and when you buy them. Thanks!

Davy

[The Don]

I replaced the shock absorbers of our townace (KR42) with KYB and didn't felt any difference from the old once I removed, but after replacing them with Toyota genuine shock absorbers felt a real difference in handling and comfort.

thats my experience better to check with others about KYB on CS1.

The Toyota genuine shocks are made by KYB They are the world's largest maker of shocks and the original supplier to most brands in the world. Did you buy your KYBs from TAAS or another shop. It could be you either got the wrong shocks or inferior quality duplicates.

[Davy]

Hi Davy

Sorry for the delay machan,, Having a very busy life these days. I still couldnt change the shocks but was able to check the prices. K*B front shock is arount 13,000/- . I'll let you klnow the exact price when i buy them. Hopefully i'll be able to do so in couple of weeks.. So i was wondering how a lancer 1.6 engine would perform, i mean pulling power & fule economy etc.. Mine is having 1.3, it does about 13-14kmpl long distance & city around 11. Is it the same with you?? My car is all good but the lacking pulling power. Hope 1.6 probably drive fantastically... And one other thing machan,, do you have front fog lights? was trying to buy a couple for my car but could not find.. Any idea of a place where i could check on them also...

Best regards:rolleyes:

Trinity,

Thanks for the prices machang, looks it's gone up a little bit.

As for the performance, it's pretty good actually. I've driven a 1.3L carburetor CS1 and I know what you mean when you said that acceleration is poor. The 1.6 EFI engine does far better than that machang when it comes to acceleration and performance. If you get to drive one, you'll understand what I mean. Is yours a 1.3 carburetor engine?

About fuel consumption, mine does about 12 - 14kmpl within the city and like 16 outstation. I was looking around how that was possible and it turns out that the EFI technology is actually MPEFI (Multi-Point Electronic Fuel Injection) which saves a lot of fuel.

Front fog lamps, yes my car came with fog lamps. There was a place in Sangharaja Mawatha in Panchikawatte that had Mitsubishi body parts, I will check and let you know. PM me your email address if possible. Why not check at Delkanda?

Davy

[trinity]

Trinity,

Thanks for the prices machang, looks it's gone up a little bit.

As for the performance, it's pretty good actually. I've driven a 1.3L carburetor CS1 and I know what you mean when you said that acceleration is poor. The 1.6 EFI engine does far better than that machang when it comes to acceleration and performance. If you get to drive one, you'll understand what I mean. Is yours a 1.3 carburetor engine?

About fuel consumption, mine does about 12 - 14kmpl within the city and like 16 outstation. I was looking around how that was possible and it turns out that the EFI technology is actually MPEFI (Multi-Point Electronic Fuel Injection) which saves a lot of fuel.

Front fog lamps, yes my car came with fog lamps. There was a place in Sangharaja Mawatha in Panchikawatte that had Mitsubishi body parts, I will check and let you know. PM me your email address if possible. Why not check at Delkanda?

Davy

Hi Machan

Yes mine is 1.3 carb.. love to drive a 1.6 EFI like yours some day,, hey yours does fuel very well.. i never thought that it will do that much,, you have both power & fuel economy, thats unfair man,,.

Hey machan thanks for checking on fog lamps...i'll pm you my e mail.. i could not go to delkanda as im stuck with my ofice duties,.,, im preparing for my wedding too,, so bye bye for wonderful free weekends... i dont know why Mitsubishi has a low market when compared to other Japanese makes.. these are very wonderful machines.. my next target is an EX,, but its a long shot.. anyway after this car most probably i might go for a 1.6 engine lancer like yours....

Thanks for your time machan,,,,

keep in touch,,,

[Davy]

Hi Machan

Yes mine is 1.3 carb.. love to drive a 1.6 EFI like yours some day,, hey yours does fuel very well.. i never thought that it will do that much,, you have both power & fuel economy, thats unfair man,,.

Hey machan thanks for checking on fog lamps...i'll pm you my e mail.. i could not go to delkanda as im stuck with my ofice duties,.,, im preparing for my wedding too,, so bye bye for wonderful free weekends... i dont know why Mitsubishi has a low market when compared to other Japanese makes.. these are very wonderful machines.. my next target is an EX,, but its a long shot.. anyway after this car most probably i might go for a 1.6 engine lancer like yours....

Thanks for your time machan,,,,

keep in touch,,,

Hi Trinity,

Got your PM. Will find out about the fog lamps and let you know ASAP.

Totally agree with you on the point about Mitsubishi not having a good stand in the market (in SL that is) as other Japanese makes. I've been on Mitsubishi from the start and every vehicle was a great experience.

Keep in touch machang! Do post about your suspension repair here once you get it done. Thanks!

Davy

[Harry (aq)]

Hi Davy

Sorry for the delay machan,, Having a very busy life these days. I still couldnt change the shocks but was able to check the prices. K*B front shock is arount 13,000/- . I'll let you klnow the exact price when i buy them. Hopefully i'll be able to do so in couple of weeks.. So i was wondering how a lancer 1.6 engine would perform, i mean pulling power & fule economy etc.. Mine is having 1.3, it does about 13-14kmpl long distance & city around 11. Is it the same with you?? My car is all good but the lacking pulling power. Hope 1.6 probably drive fantastically... And one other thing machan,, do you have front fog lights? was trying to buy a couple for my car but could not find.. Any idea of a place where i could check on them also...

Best regards:rolleyes:

Hi Trinity,

It was exciting to hear that your CS1 only does 13-14 kmpl on long distance. I have a EFI CS1 which does 12-13 kmpl in City and does 15-16 kmpl outstation. Just thought of sharing. Have you tried cleaning the carb and tuning it? It should do better on fuel from what I heard.

Regards

[trinity]

Hi Trinity,

It was exciting to hear that your CS1 only does 13-14 kmpl on long distance. I have a EFI CS1 which does 12-13 kmpl in City and does 15-16 kmpl outstation. Just thought of sharing. Have you tried cleaning the carb and tuning it? It should do better on fuel from what I heard.

Regards

Hi Harry

Thanks for the info.. infact i tried to overcome the matter couple of times but ended up with the same results. Cleaned the carb, Changed all four plugs & the engine was tuned up to the level where you get water drops from the exhaust. But there's a problem which im having for some time now & wasnt able to get it fixed. (i dont know whether its a problem even). Few months back i noticed that RPM reading goes over 2.5 at the speed of 70kmph on 4th gear. @80 it goes all the way to 3000. I enquired this on the forum also & the advices given was to do a tuneup or to check the clutch.

So i did a tuneup & result remained the same. Then the clutch,, the mechanic who checked it told me that it too was ok & no need to do anything. (at that time the car has done around 65000kms & the guy who checked it is a reliable person). now its 80,000kms i get a humming like sound when i press the clutch. This started only last week. could not find time go to the garage yet.(i see a drop in fuel fugures also.)

Would appreciate your input on this..

Best regards

P.S experts.. all your ideas are warmly welcome

[The Don]

Hi Harry

Thanks for the info.. infact i tried to overcome the matter couple of times but ended up with the same results. Cleaned the carb, Changed all four plugs & the engine was tuned up to the level where you get water drops from the exhaust. But there's a problem which im having for some time now & wasnt able to get it fixed. (i dont know whether its a problem even). Few months back i noticed that RPM reading goes over 2.5 at the speed of 70kmph on 4th gear. @80 it goes all the way to 3000. I enquired this on the forum also & the advices given was to do a tuneup or to check the clutch.

So i did a tuneup & result remained the same. Then the clutch,, the mechanic who checked it told me that it too was ok & no need to do anything. (at that time the car has done around 65000kms & the guy who checked it is a reliable person). now its 80,000kms i get a humming like sound when i press the clutch. This started only last week. could not find time go to the garage yet.(i see a drop in fuel fugures also.)

Would appreciate your input on this..

Best regards

P.S experts.. all your ideas are warmly welcome

Not an expert, but usually if your car's engine is running really well, its a carburettor model the obvious explanation for low fuel figures is the clutch. I think the best bet is to remove the clutch and check the clutch and the pressure plate. I had this issue where the lower gears would not always engage properly, and past 70KMPH the car would loose some of its oompf. Turned out to be a slightly warped pressure plate, so that the clutch wasn't setting down properly.

Edited May 23, 2011 by The Don

[trinity]

Not an expert, but usually if your car's engine is running really well, its a carburettor model the obvious explanation for low fuel figures is the clutch. I think the best bet is to remove the clutch and check the clutch and the pressure plate. I had this issue where the lower gears would not always engage properly, and past 70KMPH the car would loose some of its oompf. Turned out to be a slightly warped pressure plate, so that the clutch wasn't setting down properly.

Hi Machan

I also think that the clutch is the root cause of the problem, i just wanna make sure before getting this thing out & check, from what i've heard is a real messy & time consuming job. I need the car up & running these days & time is a luxuary which is slipping away from me nowadays... I just wanna do whats right at once & get it over with.... anyway thanks for the advice machan,, i'll keep it in mind...

Regards

[The Don]

Hi Machan

I also think that the clutch is the root cause of the problem, i just wanna make sure before getting this thing out & check, from what i've heard is a real messy & time consuming job. I need the car up & running these days & time is a luxuary which is slipping away from me nowadays... I just wanna do whats right at once & get it over with.... anyway thanks for the advice machan,, i'll keep it in mind...

Regards

Machan, unfortunately if you don't spare the time getting sorted, you are going to be left hanging and stuck in some place at the most inconvenient time. So best bite the bullet and live without the car for a couple of days and rely on an alternate mode of transport. A clutch and pressure plate replacement only takes a day or so, and it might end up not being the problem. If it does not reveal any issues then you need to take the car to a specialist mechanic and I hope somebody here can recommend one. Unfortunately for Mitsubishi's the agents are not an option and they will probably recommend you change the engine ! The other probability is the injector or an issue with the carburettor. In that car you will have to use the carburettor repair kit and get the carburettor reconditioned. I once had an issue in a previous car (not a Mitsubishi) where the injector was leaking slightly allowing more petrol into the combustion chamber resulting in very bad fuel efficiency.

[trinity]

Machan, unfortunately if you don't spare the time getting sorted, you are going to be left hanging and stuck in some place at the most inconvenient time. So best bite the bullet and live without the car for a couple of days and rely on an alternate mode of transport. A clutch and pressure plate replacement only takes a day or so, and it might end up not being the problem. If it does not reveal any issues then you need to take the car to a specialist mechanic and I hope somebody here can recommend one. Unfortunately for Mitsubishi's the agents are not an option and they will probably recommend you change the engine ! The other probability is the injector or an issue with the carburettor. In that car you will have to use the carburettor repair kit and get the carburettor reconditioned. I once had an issue in a previous car (not a Mitsubishi) where the injector was leaking slightly allowing more petrol into the combustion chamber resulting in very bad fuel efficiency.

Hi machan,,

Yes what you say is true.. now my fuel fugure is very bad.. seems like its getting worst drastically,, hoping to take the baby to the doctor this weekend,, will update with the findings.. Thanks a lot machan,,,,

[trinity]

Update,,,

Did an overall front suspension repair & clutch replacement,,,

Prices (Important parts only)

Front shocks - KYB original Japan Each Rs.10,000/-

Clutch Plate 12,850 (genuine) I didnt go for a genuine one but was able to get a Japanese one at Rs 4,000/- Pressure Plate 19,850 (genuine) Not replaced

Clutch Release Bearing (Fork): 17,850 (genuine) Replaced with the genuine one,,,,,

Hope this'll help interested parties,,,, Cheers

Edited July 17, 2011 by trinity

[miniace]

Hey this is a great way to close the topic opened.

Good job Trinity! A good example for many!

MINIACE

[trinity]

Hey this is a great way to close the topic opened.

Good job Trinity! A good example for many!

MINIACE

Hey Miniac,, Thanks machan,,, appreciate the kind words,,, All for the love of cars,,,

Cheers mate...

[trinity]

Hi friends..

Thought to give a small update on the subject for the interested parties...

Last year i changed the front suspension and this year, its rear ones.

I only had to buy the shocks as all the other bushes and dampers are still in very good shape. wend for KYB this time also. Each quoted 10,100/- and bought for 8,000/- after a discount. This is from Wimal motors moratwa. Today they will go in my car..

Another thing i wanted to share is about the front lower arm bushes. I only changed them last year and last week at the wheel alignment, they told me that the two rear bushes of the front lower arm has been worn out.I was really annoyed. Last year i bought them from Siriwardhana motors kalutara. Since its no use calling them over this i spoke with Wimal Morts when inquiring about the shock prices.

Then they confirmed that those bushes are coming from Malaysia and they will not last over an year. If i want to buy the genuine one i'm gonna have to buy the whole arm. Else i could buy a reconditioned one from a spare parts dealer.I made few calls and prices are as follows,

Genuine Lower arm - 25,000/- (@ agents)

Recon Lower arm - 6,500/- to 7,500/- (@ US Auto and another Mitsu parts dealer)

Malaysian Bush - 950/- each.

Ultimately i went with Malay bushes as i just could not afford anything other than that at this moment.

So guys, is it this regular story regarding these types of jobs in motor market?? Please share your ideas and experiences...

Cheers!!

[HashanJay]

hi Trinity!

Today I went for a wheel alignment and the mechanic showed me that the lower arm bushes have been worn out. So they need a replacement.

Then I did a search on AL and found this thread opened by you. I got to know many things about the upcoming repair and probably next week I'll be replacing the bushes after checking other possible issues as well.

What could be the other parts that may have affected at this point ? Mine have 88k on the clock.

I'll update once the repair is being done !

[trinity]

hi Trinity!

Today I went for a wheel alignment and the mechanic showed me that the lower arm bushes have been worn out. So they need a replacement.

Then I did a search on AL and found this thread opened by you. I got to know many things about the upcoming repair and probably next week I'll be replacing the bushes after checking other possible issues as well.

What could be the other parts that may have affected at this point ? Mine have 88k on the clock.

I'll update once the repair is being done !

Hi HashanJ

Last Friday I too had to replace lower arm bushes again. My wheel allignment was due and we to get the allignment done knowing about the worn out worn out bushes, but at the wheel allignment shop i got to know that cars rack ends are also busted. So decided to replace everything at once.

What did the allignment place tell you about the rack ends?

Usually if the rack ends have a play, allignment people will tell you. So the things to look at this moment would be,

1. Rack ends

2. Tie rods

3. Suspension bushes and dust boots

4. Lower arm bushes

I replaced both lower arm bushes, rack ends and got the allignment done at the same place in Union place and it cost me just above 11k.

Following are not wheel allignment related but better to have them checked or be prepared to change.

5. Engine mounts

6. Clutch

7. Timing belt

8. Gear oil

I replaced my clutch and timing belt around 80k kms as far as I could remember. I had a thread opened for the clutch replacement as well. Check it if you need more in for on that.

Cheers!

[HashanJay]

Hi HashanJ Last Friday I too had to replace lower arm bushes again. My wheel allignment was due and we to get the allignment done knowing about the worn out worn out bushes, but at the wheel allignment shop i got to know that cars rack ends are also busted. So decided to replace everything at once. What did the allignment place tell you about the rack ends? Usually if the rack ends have a play, allignment people will tell you. So the things to look at this moment would be, 1. Rack ends 2. Tie rods 3. Suspension bushes and dust boots 4. Lower arm bushes I replaced both lower arm bushes, rack ends and got the allignment done at the same place in Union place and it cost me just above 11k. Following are not wheel allignment related but better to have them checked or be prepared to change. 5. Engine mounts 6. Clutch 7. Timing belt 8. Gear oil I replaced my clutch and timing belt around 80k kms as far as I could remember. I had a thread opened for the clutch replacement as well. Check it if you need more in for on that. Cheers!

Thanks for your quick reply on day #1 on 2015

Good to hear that your car just for everything done this time.

The alignment place guy said that only the lower arm bushes should be replaced, but said that they are not messed up but have symptoms of needing a replacement. He didn't mention about the rack ends. Anyways I'm getting the car inspected by some other fellow before starting replacing them.

You may have remember I asked about the timing belt change little while a ago and got it replaced by Agents as you guys suggested. They said that it should be replaced at 90 k mark (Optimal Time to do it).

I read your post on Clutch too. My clutch is bit stiff and hard to press when comparing to few small cars (Hyundai EON an a March) I have drive.Never got a chance to drive another in the same kind

Currently I'm away from Colombo (@Matale) and I think I need to get there to do the replacement, is it a good idea ? I've seen

which scares me of coming back to Colombo but here I'm not sure of parts either mechanics.

If you don't mind, could you PM me the place that you got the work done, I'm still not found a proper place to get my car done.

Thanks again and enjoy the new year mate !