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Power Steering Bit Harder To Rotate


nish1

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  On 3/7/2013 at 2:25 PM, nish1 said:
what would be the case for this?

Hydraulic and EPS???????

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nishi1,

There can be number of reasons for your problem.

Low fluid, level on the pump a broken belt, there is a belt that connects the engine's main drive pulley to the power steering, alternator, air conditioning, pulleys.

Or the power steering pump can go bad.

Check the fluid and the belts to make sure they are correct.Belt should have correct tension for it to work correctly.

All modern cars, belt tension is set with a spring loaded pulley to maintain the correct tension. Check the belt tensioned for correct tension

Power steering rack - the thing that couples the hydraulic pressure from the power-steering pump into the steering mechanism - may need repair by rebuilding or replacing with a used good one or new one.

Tire Pressure low. Front alignment incorrect. Front axle kingpins or ball joints tight. Steering gear improperly adjusted

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

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"nish1" mate, sorry for hijaking your thread hope that its okay :) im having a same issue like yours

guys my father owns a 1997 nissan cedric Y33 3.0L V6,recently i discovered that when i turn the sterring wheel a "GRRRR" sound comes...... And i feel a slight stifness on tha wheel

*what might be the reason?

*if the fluid level is low what brand do you recomend?

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  On 3/9/2013 at 1:42 PM, dreamracer said:
"nish1" mate, sorry for hijaking your thread hope that its okay :) im having a same issue like yours

guys my father owns a 1997 nissan cedric Y33 3.0L V6,recently i discovered that when i turn the sterring wheel a "GRRRR" sound comes...... And i feel a slight stifness on tha wheel

*what might be the reason?

*if the fluid level is low what brand do you recomend?

Check the CV joints

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  On 3/9/2013 at 1:54 PM, Schiffer said:
Check the CV joints

That's more a "katakatakata" noise during a sharp turn while on the move and also not when the steering is turned when stationary isn't it?????

dreamracer,

Does the "GRRRRRR" noise come while turning the steering while the vehicle is stationary also?? If so accompanied with the stiffness looks like the P/S pump is beckoning!

Just my two cents!!

BTW

As for the "brand" of P/S fluid first check what "type" of P/S fluid the car is intended to operate on. (should be indicated on the P/S oil reservoir or dipstick/cover. There are many types such as Type 2 Type 3, Dexron ii dexron III etc etc. There is no point getting a good "brand" if you use a wrong "type".

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CJ5,

EPS get assistance from a DC motor or an specially designed motor.

It is acts instead of hydraulics power or mam power assisting the steering turning directions.

EPS can be controlled by sensors to, activate the torque to through the motor.

This some times connect the steering column or the steering rack. some vehicles are installed two different positions controlled by town and country.

To my knowledge all of them have the rack and pennon. If hydraulics system or electric motor fails, to take off the manual control of the steering.

Therefore EPS or HPS do almost similarly assisting the driver for better comfort during the driving of a vehicle.

EPS to my knowledge have a advantage on fuel saving, than HPS system because it is battery powered.

HPS use some percentage of engine power to run hydrological pump continuously, therefore this will effect fuel.

Some automobiles also have variable speed controlled and stability controlled EPS electronic system incorporated.

To assist the vehicle driver according to the speed the driver travels and different conditions.

Topic starter nishi1's problem is not relevant to above. I posted above is what I know of assisted steering systems. There can be more advanced systems.

He should get his system checked up. I don't think he complains about any noises generated when turning the vehicle.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

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thanks for the advise guys :)

ok..as you guys said i checked the CV joints.....yes, right side outer CV boot is damaged,CV boot is split in to two parts,now the CV joint is clearly visible....tomorrow i'll be taking the car to check it out....

Note that the PS fluid level was low so the "GRRRR" sound might have caused due to this...i am not an expert but the CV joint was in good shape,seems to be not damaged....other than the CV boot will i have to replace the CV joint as well?

Any other things that i should look out for ?

Your advise plz :)

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  On 3/10/2013 at 1:27 PM, dreamracer said:
thanks for the advise guys :)

ok..as you guys said i checked the CV joints.....yes, right side outer CV boot is damaged,CV boot is split in to two parts,now the CV joint is clearly visible....tomorrow i'll be taking the car to check it out....

Note that the PS fluid level was low so the "GRRRR" sound might have caused due to this...i am not an expert but the CV joint was in good shape,seems to be not damaged....other than the CV boot will i have to replace the CV joint as well?

Any other things that i should look out for ?

Your advise plz :)

dreamracer,

According to your post your PS fluid level is low, it is better to drain out every thing and refill same with new oil. .

A good mechanic will do the correct way draining and flushing the system. Here is a web link will give all information to flush power steering.

http://www.dvatp.com/bmw/power_steering_flush/

As for your question about CV joints it is better for trouble free driving to examine both CV joints and replace the rubber boots.

There again your mechanic will have to examine the joints, how far they are wasted.

If they do not not make any noise during operation, can use them for some time.

If CV joints are noisy then definitely they are wasted. It is necessary to replace them.

Motorists used to rebuild CV joints few years back, now new CV joints are freely available.

Some use used CV joints with axles complete from used parts dealers.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

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Thanks you all for your comments.. specially silvy..there no oil leak or any other visible points..HEHE..I wanted to check the PS oil level but I could not find the place in this new car...:( heehe..anyway pals this bit new car its like a cristalball hehe..I cant still figure out what the cause..there's no huge tight but bit there...I feel it with compaired ot my old viz..

  On 3/11/2013 at 12:28 AM, Sylvi said:
dreamracer,

According to your post your PS fluid level is low, it is better to drain out every thing and refill same with new oil. .

A good mechanic will do the correct way draining and flushing the system. Here is a web link will give all information to flush power steering.

http://www.dvatp.com/bmw/power_steering_flush/

As for your question about CV joints it is better for trouble free driving to examine both CV joints and replace the rubber boots.

There again your mechanic will have to examine the joints, how far they are wasted.

If they do not not make any noise during operation, can use them for some time.

If CV joints are noisy then definitely they are wasted. It is necessary to replace them.

Motorists used to rebuild CV joints few years back, now new CV joints are freely available.

Some use used CV joints with axles complete from used parts dealers.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

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  On 3/11/2013 at 4:46 AM, nish1 said:
Thanks you all for your comments.. specially silvy..there no oil leak or any other visible points..HEHE..I wanted to check the PS oil level but I could not find the place in this new car... :( heehe..anyway pals this bit new car its like a cristalball hehe..I cant still figure out what the cause..there's no huge tight but bit there...I feel it with compaired ot my old viz..

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are actually saying the steering is tight as opposed to having a heavy feeling and that you are not trying to explain a characteristic of the car.

Toyotas of a certain period (well lets be honest most of the ones since the 90s...) are extremely un-engaging with extremely light steering and zero feed back (plus with a whole lot of other characteristics that are not pleasant), but they do seem to be trying to change some of that. (Whoever thought a major car manufacturer would use the slogan "Fun to drive..AGAIN" as a marketing line !)

My wife got a NCP13 a few weeks ago and the steering in that is feather-light, un-involved with zero-feeling and when driving it I have no idea where the wheels are or what they are doing or if they are on gravel, tarmac, skiing on slick oil or floating on damn air ...AGGGHH...ironically I rented a NCP130 a few months ago for a long haul trip in Japan and I actually enjoyed driving that through the mountains and if my memory serves me right there was some nice (not excellent) steering feedback which...someone could interpret as being "heavy" and something wrong as compared to the older NCP10/13.

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  On 3/11/2013 at 12:28 AM, Sylvi said:
dreamracer,

According to your post your PS fluid level is low, it is better to drain out every thing and refill same with new oil. .

A good mechanic will do the correct way draining and flushing the system. Here is a web link will give all information to flush power steering.

http://www.dvatp.com/bmw/power_steering_flush/

As for your question about CV joints it is better for trouble free driving to examine both CV joints and replace the rubber boots.

There again your mechanic will have to examine the joints, how far they are wasted.

If they do not not make any noise during operation, can use them for some time.

If CV joints are noisy then definitely they are wasted. It is necessary to replace them.

Motorists used to rebuild CV joints few years back, now new CV joints are freely available.

Some use used CV joints with axles complete from used parts dealers.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

thanks for your advise Mr.Sylvi... problem is solved :sport-smiley-004:

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  On 3/7/2013 at 2:25 PM, nish1 said:
recently I bought VTIZ KSP90 2008 and I had the vitz scp10 and now I feel the new ksp90 steering is bit harder than the previous one ...

the car is in minit condition and what would be the case for this?

Hi,

I am wondering whether i should buy the vitz scp10(2000 or later model) or the scp90 (1300cc) or the ksp90. Since you have used 2 of these models can you please give your views about the two in terms of fuel consumption, maintenance cost, ReSale value, ride comfort etc. I am sorry for plugging this into your thread.

My budget is 20-30 laks.

Thanks in advance

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