Nimz77 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) when i start my car in the morning, start in one ignition.but if car warmed i have to try ignition 2,3 time for start engine... even no improvement after engine tuneup...pls advise... no errors found for engine scan... this problem related to coolant temp sensor??? Edited April 19, 2015 by Nimz77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosswind Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Get the starter motor serviced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumesh88 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 When the car is warm (ie this issue is likely to be present), remove the fuel tank lid momentarily to release the vacuum inside and then try to start. Let us know if it makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suharshan Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Faced the same issue few months back. Serviced the starter motor and problem solved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 On 4/20/2015 at 2:42 AM, Rumesh88 said: When the car is warm (ie this issue is likely to be present), remove the fuel tank lid momentarily to release the vacuum inside and then try to start. Let us know if it makes a difference. i will try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 On 4/20/2015 at 2:30 AM, Crosswind said: Get the starter motor serviced thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john cooper Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Hello Nimz77 Had the same issue with chevrolet cruze (SUZUKI) but when i scan it was showing the fault with CAM Position sensor, and NO problem of start in the morning but after engine on working temp its hard to start Try service the starter, if that not sorted the issue its worth to do a compression test see if any changes with rings On mine i have seen the "check engine" light intermittently and after change the sensor and clear the fault code it all sorted Hope this help regards JC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 On 4/20/2015 at 8:17 PM, john cooper said: Hello Nimz77Had the same issue with chevrolet cruze (SUZUKI) but when i scan it was showing the fault with CAM Position sensor, and NO problem of start in the morning but after engine on working temp its hard to start Try service the starter, if that not sorted the issue its worth to do a compression test see if any changes with rings On mine i have seen the "check engine" light intermittently and after change the sensor and clear the fault code it all sorted Hope this help regards JC thanks...but im not seen any check engine light...even no errors for scan....i will check my starter motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) On 4/20/2015 at 2:42 AM, Rumesh88 said: When the car is warm (ie this issue is likely to be present), remove the fuel tank lid momentarily to release the vacuum inside and then try to start. Let us know if it makes a difference. tried but still same...going to check starter motor and battery also recently i have replaced distributor Edited April 26, 2015 by Nimz77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 is there any issue with ignition coil or switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 any thing related to tappet clearances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Still i couldn't find proper Solution... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 There cars have the coil per spark plug, and they have a habit of failing. But you should check before replacing. The other issues like cam sensor usually show up on the scanner. Who scanned the car. Was it the agent using the Consult system? If you have got the starter motor serviced. Check the usual suspects like blocked fuel line, faulty spark plugs, plug wires, whether you get a spark in the first place, and if all else fails a compression test, though petrols normally start even with a bit of low compression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 On 5/14/2015 at 2:33 PM, The Don said: There cars have the coil per spark plug, and they have a habit of failing. But you should check before replacing.The other issues like cam sensor usually show up on the scanner. Who scanned the car. Was it the agent using the Consult system? If you have got the starter motor serviced. Check the usual suspects like blocked fuel line, faulty spark plugs, plug wires, whether you get a spark in the first place, and if all else fails a compression test, though petrols normally start even with a bit of low compression. Cam Sensor working ...may be i have to do compression test.because im seeing high oil burning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john cooper Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Replace the engine, GA15 is cheap to buy regards JC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 On 5/15/2015 at 3:47 AM, john cooper said: Replace the engine, GA15 is cheap to buyregards JC any good place ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 On 5/14/2015 at 4:29 PM, Nimz77 said: Cam Sensor working ...may be i have to do compression test.because im seeing high oil burning. Don't replace the engine yet. You don't know what sort of lump you will end up with. If you are burning oil, have you checked the plugs to see if they are spoiled? Sounds like your car is starting and running. If your problem is the car takes a little while to start in the morning, do check compression. But likely causes are ignition and fuel delivery. Particularly as I said before coil packs, fuel line blockage, air in the fuel line, and pump issues (gunk in the fuel pump). To test this you can see if the car starts easily if you spray some easy start directly into the air filter as you are cranking. Then stop, and try to start without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) thanks don...today i did compression test..Results are follows piston wise 10,10,10,9 as per garage ..they said i have get replace Piston rings,valve oil seal,Gaskets...etc. but low compression for delay start? No issue with fuel line New Fuel pump but i will try spraying fuel in to air filter.. is this related to pump relay? Edited May 16, 2015 by Nimz77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/topic/52515-difficult-hot-start-after-injector-cleaning/ i think starting problem is related to the faulty injectors . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfMad Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 My lancer has the same issue.. but i don't worry much..cz this scenario is applied only when the engine is hot.. so at the moment i slightly press the accelerator before i start and it works.. i think mine is due to starter motor hoping to service it in latter stage.. since its not a big issue for me at the moment.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 thnaks On 5/17/2015 at 1:16 PM, PerfMad said: My lancer has the same issue.. but i don't worry much..cz this scenario is applied only when the engine is hot.. so at the moment i slightly press the accelerator before i start and it works.. i think mine is due to starter motor hoping to service it in latter stage.. since its not a big issue for me at the moment.. thanks...but is this good for starter motor?starting issue related to motor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfMad Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 hmmmm to be honest im not quite sure about it.. but planning on showing this to my mechanic and get his opinion as well.. This issue could be due to starter motor as well as engine compression..not quite sure.. but it's always better to get the starter motor serviced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 On 5/17/2015 at 4:25 PM, PerfMad said: hmmmm to be honest im not quite sure about it.. but planning on showing this to my mechanic and get his opinion as well..This issue could be due to starter motor as well as engine compression..not quite sure.. but it's always better to get the starter motor serviced noted..thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Ok here is the thing. When an engine is warm, it expands a bit and this compounds any issues with compression loss. That is probably why you are seeing the issue more when the engine is warm than cold. Delay in starting can be caused by a lot of issues. But if you have a compression leak either through valve seats, charred valves, piston rings etc then you are likely to see a start delay. This is a progressive problem which will get worse over time. Also oil getting into the combustion chamber will spoil the plugs and injectors making the issue worse. These can be temporally overcome by cleaning them. Sounds like one of the pistons is a bit low and the others are kind of ok. Read the article below. http://www.gregsengine.com/cylinder-compression-testing.html How bad is the delay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimz77 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 need On 5/18/2015 at 3:23 PM, The Don said: Ok here is the thing.When an engine is warm, it expands a bit and this compounds any issues with compression loss. That is probably why you are seeing the issue more when the engine is warm than cold. Delay in starting can be caused by a lot of issues. But if you have a compression leak either through valve seats, charred valves, piston rings etc then you are likely to see a start delay. This is a progressive problem which will get worse over time. Also oil getting into the combustion chamber will spoil the plugs and injectors making the issue worse. These can be temporally overcome by cleaning them. Sounds like one of the pistons is a bit low and the others are kind of ok. Read the article below. http://www.gregsengine.com/cylinder-compression-testing.html How bad is the delay? need to crank engine two,three times.(15sec)..but when i park my car in the office ...after 6-8 hours same issue...delay start.any way im going to replace Piston rings,valve oil seal,Gaskets....pls advise// do i need to use genuine piston rings? is there any alternative good brand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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