Clutch-less Shifting

[Saturn]

Just recently started to try to teach myself clutch-less shifting (not sure what the technical term is) but I just mean shifting gears without pressing the clutch (except for 1st I guess)

Seem's like a fun thing.. and helps me understand the car better,,

Just want to know if anyone here tries that..

Edited June 2, 2009 by Saturn

[Ripper]

Just recently started to try to teach myself clutch-less shifting (not sure what the technical term is) but I just mean shifting gears without pressing the clutch (except for 1st I guess)

Seem's like a fun thing.. and helps me understand the car better,,

Just want to know if anyone here tries that..

i've done this many times over on my bike...

after watching "dust to glory" a documentary about the baja 1000..i've realized that most folks, especially racers don't clutch unless they absolutely have to... apart from the first gear they usually don't use the clutch to shift...

I'm assuming there's a slight time gain but keeping out the the clutch part and also save up on heavy wear on the clutch...especially on endurance racing..

but gotta say though i've tested it a few times, don't really feel comfy not clutching

[Kavvz]

i've done this many times over on my bike...

after watching "dust to glory" a documentary about the baja 1000..i've realized that most folks, especially racers don't clutch unless they absolutely have to... apart from the first gear they usually don't use the clutch to shift...

I'm assuming there's a slight time gain but keeping out the the clutch part and also save up on heavy wear on the clutch...especially on endurance racing..

but gotta say though i've tested it a few times, don't really feel comfy not clutching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OtMvwwDTIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfpmSwF0j90...feature=related

Interesting stuff....

Edited June 2, 2009 by Kavvz

[harshansenadhir]

also save up on heavy wear on the clutch...especially on endurance racing..

yeah in racing you can afford to, but in day to day driving you can't afford to harm the gearbox can you? i think clutch less gear change is harmful for gearboxes with synchronizes, rather modern gearboxes

[Kavvz]

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Not crazy relevant, but the dude certainly has some great footwork going....

[charitha19]

if u have a spare car u can always try this... but dont recommend it... its quite a hard thing to master..

[Ripper]

if u have a spare car u can always try this... but dont recommend it... its quite a hard thing to master..

i think the original posting about "clutchless shifting" and "double clutching" are two different things innit?

according to many web sites/articles/blogs and the likes...double clutching is the safest for almost any tranny... providing you know how to do it properly

[HardHat]

done this when driving an old EL plates Austin A35 one of my aunts had, just because the clutch was non hydraulic and so d@mn hard to press

besides, I was forced to drive that car against my free will quite often so couldn't care less . Was fun though but can get nasty gear grinding when you get it wrong

[Devinda_Z]

if you get it wrong your just going to have the gears crash and end up buggering your syncro right!

i for one don't want to try and hear it go wrong

double (de)clutching is a whole other story...

[Kavvz]

i think the original posting about "clutchless shifting" and "double clutching" are two different things innit?

Yeah my bad, I came across that video when youtubing the intricacies of rev matching and couldn't resist posting it. Seriously the bugger's heel-and-toe action is just a joy to watch...(sorry if I muddied the waters a bit though, in hindsight I guess that clip should have been tossed on the post-whoring thread instead).

[harshansenadhir]

Double clutching is in fact recommended for non-synchronized gear boxes to avoid harming dog teethes of the collar, as for synchronized gearboxes, it'll reduce the stress on synchronize cones inside the collar.

[JadeyBlitzen]

i do it sometimes when i feel lazy. but its very very easy to get it wrong. its different from to car and it works at only a certain speed plus u have to get the speed of the gear change just rite. once u r used to it you can change it by feel. but i don't think we should practice it that often.