Buddy Van

[Supra_Natural]

  dilku said:

If brand new vehicles are available people do not go for jap used .Brandnew vehicles are come from India,China,Thailand ,Korea etc.For example compare these figures of ALTO usage.

Brandnew -India Used Jap

95% 5%

that mentality is just so damed old fashioned that it's hilarious!

[dilku]

  Supra_Natural said:

that mentality is just so damed old fashioned that it's hilarious!

You mean the users of MARUTI 800, ALTO ,CHANA ,FOTON ,GEELY,TOYOTA SMART CABS,HYUNDAI ...much to name.

[MasterDon]

  dilku said:

If brand new vehicles are available people do not go for jap used .Brandnew vehicles are come from India,China,Thailand ,Korea etc.For example compare these figures of ALTO usage.

Brandnew -India Used Jap

95% 5%

cheap chinese vehicles are below par when compared to even 10 sri japanese,that is a fact...you cannot justify buying crap by saying it's brand new...crap is still crap.

[Ripper]

  MasterDon said:

cheap chinese vehicles are below par when compared to even 10 sri japanese,that is a fact...you cannot justify buying crap by saying it's brand new...crap is still crap.

no no...though these chinese stuff are cheap...they are very reliable, safe and will last for years and years without any trouble

[dilku]

  MasterDon said:

cheap chinese vehicles are below par when compared to even 10 sri japanese,that is a fact...you cannot justify buying crap by saying it's brand new...crap is still crap.

Do not stck to chinese see post No 52 the number of users are increasing.In 1978 people said that (1 Sri ) English or German make was better than used Jap .

[Watchman]

  dilku said:

Do not stck to chinese see post No 52 the number of users are increasing.In 1978 people said that (1 Sri ) English or German make was better than used Jap .

Sorry, some of us werent around in 1978 and most others probably werent at a car-buying age... So maybe you can elaborate on your analogy.

Or maybe list-member sylvi has a nice story about it?

please try to understand what masterDon is trying to say! Don't be 3rrd class! He's saying that right NOW, chinese or indian NEW cars are crap compared to used jap cars in the same price bracket.

[MasterDon]

  dilku said:

Do not stck to chinese see post No 52 the number of users are increasing.In 1978 people said that (1 Sri ) English or German make was better than used Jap .

in 1970 japanese cars WERE inferior to the europeans,it took them nearly two more decades to catch up with the euros and establish a good reputation...i'm afraid the chinese are a long way away from that because the jap cars in the 70's atleast had the relibility factor working for them.

  Ripper said:

no no...though these chinese stuff are cheap...they are very reliable, safe and will last for years and years without any trouble

LOL...really?....hey ripper, give me a call,cos I have this bridge I wanna sell you

[gpmac]

we have been using a chana van for nearly 3 years at our office, no issues so far, statements like above are not surprising though, we have all heard the same thing decades earlier about Japanese vehicles

[dilku]

  gpmac said:

we have been using a chana van for nearly 3 years at our office, no issues so far, statements like above are not surprising though, we have all heard the same thing decades earlier about Japanese vehicles

Like a user 'gpmac ' says ,any forum member who use indian ALTO do tell us why you chose it though used jap ALTOs are freely available.

[Pericles]

  dilku said:

You mean the users of MARUTI 800, ALTO ,CHANA ,FOTON ,GEELY,TOYOTA SMART CABS,HYUNDAI ...much to name.

Don't think the Smart Cabs are in the 800 and Alto class. The newer Hyundai's are improving, but not quite there yet.

Personally speaking, I'd be afraid to even sit in a Geely.

And like I told Sylvi, control that use of the caps lock please.

[Ripper]

  MasterDon said:

LOL...really?....hey ripper, give me a call,cos I have this bridge I wanna sell you

sarcasm grasshopper!!! sarcasm!!!

[Ripper]

  MasterDon said:

in 1970 japanese cars WERE inferior to the europeans,it took them nearly two more decades to catch up with the euros and establish a good reputation...i'm afraid the chinese are a long way away from that because the jap cars in the 70's atleast had the relibility factor working for them.

exactly!!! maybe the chinese vehicles too will get their issues sorted in the future...

but as it stands....even older japs does have a huge lead over these chinese vehicles...

[MasterDon]

  dilku said:

You mean the users of MARUTI 800, ALTO ,CHANA ,FOTON ,GEELY,TOYOTA SMART CABS,HYUNDAI ...much to name.

what is your point exactly?...we have nothing against buying brand new,it's just that some chinese,korean,indian vehicles are NOT good products,and not even good value for money even though they are cheap and brand new...remember,cheapness also has a price.

btw,as peri said, whats the smart cab doing here?...thats a damn good vehicle.

  Ripper said:

sarcasm grasshopper!!! sarcasm!!!

I know bung...I was just playing along

but we better be careful cos these trollish types usually dont recognise sarcasm

Edited July 20, 2010 by MasterDon

[Skyline R33]

Chinese may be improving but personally but I think indian vehicles are popular than chinese ones and have a better resale value. Obviously a Townace lotto or a Nissan Vanette would be a million times better value for your money and trouble free if maintained properly. Specially if you are using it for a business you don't want the vehicle to be sitting i the garage while you are supposed to make some money out of it

Edited July 21, 2010 by Skyline R33

[Sylvi]

  Ripper said:

exactly!!! maybe the chinese vehicles too will get their issues sorted in the future...

but as it stands....even older japs does have a huge lead over these chinese vehicles...

Sir,

I appreciate your post Very well said.

I One reason to buy a Chines Vehicle is to test out the problems on same now Chinese Vehicles are very much better than what they produced few years ago.

Like computer parts Mobile and CDMA phones they will be a leader in Automobile industry in near future.

Wijesinghe.

Edited July 21, 2010 by Sylvi

[jerryda]

  Sylvi said:

Sir,

I appreciate your post Very well said.

I One reason to buy a Chines Vehicle is to test out the problems on same now Chinese Vehicles are very much better than what they produced few years ago.

Like computer parts Mobile and CDMA phones they will be a leader in Automobile industry in near future.

Wijesinghe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry

[Ripper]

  Sylvi said:

Sir,

I appreciate your post Very well said.

I One reason to buy a Chines Vehicle is to test out the problems on same now Chinese Vehicles are very much better than what they produced few years ago.

Like computer parts Mobile and CDMA phones they will be a leader in Automobile industry in near future.

Wijesinghe.

Dear list member Silvi,

Myself or anybody else hasn't said anything about the chinese not improving on their automotive products.

Maybe they have improved but compared to an older, used jap vehicle available at a similar price range is far superior as it stands!

although slightly OT....

being a leader in anything based on volumes doesn't speak everything about the true quality of a product.

Toyota is supposed to be world's no.1 in volume but that doesn't mean even their best car is better than say a ferrari or even a GTR

Like someone was saying that marutis and chinese vehicles are achieving greater volume of sales in SL doesn't mean they are the best for the money.

just that it appeals to a certain audience who take comfort in the fact these are the only vehicles you can buy brand new as opposed to a used jap.

[dilku]

  Ripper said:

Dear list member Silvi,

Myself or anybody else hasn't said anything about the chinese not improving on their automotive products.

Maybe they have improved but compared to an older, used jap vehicle available at a similar price range is far superior as it stands!

although slightly OT....

being a leader in anything based on volumes doesn't speak everything about the true quality of a product.

Toyota is supposed to be world's no.1 in volume but that doesn't mean even their best car is better than say a ferrari or even a GTR

Like someone was saying that marutis and chinese vehicles are achieving greater volume of sales in SL doesn't mean they are the best for the money.

just that it appeals to a certain audience who take comfort in the fact these are the only vehicles you can buy brand new as opposed to a used jap.

If so the demand should be dropped.People in India,China are proud of using their own vehicles.They consume less fuel and get the best value for money they have spent.People here spend 3 or 4 million to travel below 25 km s per day.Keep the vehicle just 2 or 3 years with them.So there is no need to purchase a long lasting vehicle for most of us.

[Watchman]

  dilku said:

If so the demand should be dropped.People in India,China are proud of using their own vehicles.They consume less fuel and get the best value for money they have spent.People here spend 3 or 4 million to travel below 25 km s per day.Keep the vehicle just 2 or 3 years with them.So there is no need to purchase a long lasting vehicle for most of us.

OK say we on on your logic and people hardly run their vehicles and sell in 2 3 years.

A corolla you bought 3 years ago for around 1mil can be sold for almost around the same price if not higher.

But a chinese vehicle you bought for 3 years for around 1mil probably wont fetch even .7mil... IIRC even a chinese van suer on the forum testified to the same in a previous post once.. and at the end of the 3 years you would have spent a fair bit of money on repairs that pertain due to the lack of durability, quality (and maybe even safety)...

So in the end you WILL be at a greater loss should you go with the chinese option..

PS: regarding the term "value-for-money" you used... you are considering only the value at the point of purchase, while the rest of us are talking of the value you get throughout the entire duration you use the vehicle. Cos at the end of the day, a jap vehicle ends up an asset while a chinese one ends up a liability. You should know about these concepts considering where you work...

Edited July 21, 2010 by Dilesh

[Ripper]

  dilku said:

If so the demand should be dropped.People in India,China are proud of using their own vehicles.They consume less fuel and get the best value for money they have spent.People here spend 3 or 4 million to travel below 25 km s per day.Keep the vehicle just 2 or 3 years with them.So there is no need to purchase a long lasting vehicle for most of us.

out of curiosity...after 2-3 years what do people like you do?

and i don't about you but there are lotsa people who put on lot more mileage than what you speak up here..

for 25k a day... a bicycle is the best if you ask me!

best value for money too...

  Quote

If so the demand should be dropped.

errr...how will that happen???

low quality stuff can easily take market leadership if their audience is the large base in that market.

sri lanka is not an advanced market so most people would go for the cheaper option given the chance.

also when you say they consume less fuel...that comes with a price isn't it..

lower displacement motors will obviously burn less fuel... skimping on safety and having lighter bodies etc too will help safe fuel

if fuel savings and 25km's per day for 2-3 years is your ONLY criteria.... by all means be our guest!!!

those who truly enjoy vehicles..like the majority of AL members would seek more from a vehicle even doing that 25km's a day you speak of.

[dilku]

  Dilesh said:

OK say we on on your logic and people hardly run their vehicles and sell in 2 3 years.

A corolla you bought 3 years ago for around 1mil can be sold for almost around the same price if not higher.

But a chinese vehicle you bought for 3 years for around 1mil probably wont fetch even .7mil... IIRC even a chinese van suer on the forum testified to the same in a previous post once.. and at the end of the 3 years you would have spent a fair bit of money on repairs that pertain due to the lack of durability, quality (and maybe even safety)...

So in the end you WILL be at a greater loss should you go with the chinese option..

PS: regarding the term "value-for-money" you used... you are considering only the value at the point of purchase, while the rest of us are talking of the value you get throughout the entire duration you use the vehicle. Cos at the end of the day, a jap vehicle ends up an asset while a chinese one ends up a liability. You should know about these concepts considering where you work...

Brand new chinese van = 1/6 of a brand new corolla ( 1 million ) Then we can save 5 million for repairs.

[Ripper]

  dilku said:

Brand new chinese van = 1/6 of a brand new corolla ( 1 million ) Then we can save 5 million for repairs.

the whole point was that an old used jap vehicle was a better deal than a brand new chinese vehicle...

I mean you do have enough gray matter in there to figure out on pricing chinese vehicle do have a huge advantage over anything else out there

and for the record....i pity you for thinking a brand new chinese van is comparable to a brand new corolla...even a used corolla for that matter!

Hilarious!!!!

Edited July 21, 2010 by Ripper

[Watchman]

  Ripper said:

the whole point was that an old used jap vehicle was a better deal than a brand new chinese vehicle...

I mean you do have enough gray matter in there to figure out on pricing chinese vehicle do have a huge advantage over anything else out there

and for the record....i pity you for thinking a brand new chinese van is comparable to a brand new corolla...even a used corolla for that matter!

Hilarious!!!!

No wonder the country is in a shi!t state like this with people like this working in key gov. financial institutions.

[aamarakoon]

China is well known for manufacturing cheap products in large quantities.

This applies for not only automobiles, but everything.

Take a Chinese phone for example. There are enough people who bought them. It will be advertised as having all features of a well known brand.

But take a closer look ! How many Chinese phone users are satisfied with them? only a handful.

True that, once Japanese vehicles were looked down upon. But from the beginning they concentrated on quality for reasonable price, a philosophy even the American big 3 lost against. Big 3 could not make Americans buy american.

Chinese have the cheap part but lacks the quality part.

[dilku]

  Dilesh said:

No wonder the country is in a shi!t state like this with people like this working in key gov. financial institutions.

Dil,Shall we meet at that institution and go to see your unkel sylvi ?