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Car To Modi/800K In Hand..p 504/cortina Mk3 Or Sujjest????


chamatharavinda
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Hi

im a new comer and dont have knowledge about this feild.only have the taste of what i want...i dont know are they possible or impacts or anything...so help me to get my dream done

i want a car.my budget is 800K Max.the taste of me is large alloywheels with thinner tires,nice shiny body paint and the model of cars are seaden types...the models i interested are Peugeot 504,Ford Cortina MK3 cars...

most people teling me dont buy old cars.you have to spend lot to repairs and parts are hard to find.but i dont like to go for middle level cars i mean the cars i can get for that price cuz i dont think even modified they can get a look like a old car that modified.i dont like mini and voxswagen also.

so i need you to comment on this subject to what to choose and impact after i get em.(repairs,parts etc)i will post some pics below to show what is my taste.

The car should be - Decent sound system

Bucket Seats

Large Alloy-wheels with thin tires(Never get tires out from the car like mini)

Shiny body paint(No gon part stickers)

Colored interer and Some Sport Speed meters

If possible - Doors modified like a sport car.without the frame.only the glass.(Think can understand)

i dont want to keep the Original things or look of the car.i want their body design and get it updated to my own taste.no need to think about back seats.can completly forget about them.

If i can find a car for around 350K i think i can do all those things when coming around 800K????

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http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/kjc/111112/976r1/153712b_20.jpeg

http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/kjc/111112/976r1/6244536_20.jpeg

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Get a 504 GL or Cortina 2000GXL and get it as much as possible into ORIGINAL condition. Those cars are classics and such a car in ORIGINAL condition can easily be sold anyday you want to sell it as there are enough people to snap it up. If you modify a car and punk it up that's the END!!!!

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Get a 504 GL or Cortina 2000GXL and get it as much as possible into ORIGINAL condition. Those cars are classics and such a car in ORIGINAL condition can easily be sold anyday you want to sell it as there are enough people to snap it up. If you modify a car and punk it up that's the END!!!!

Agreed. make it as original as possible..

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What is it with all these damn resale jackasses? He wants a car he can enjoy, not one the next owner can enjoy. Its not supposed to be a growing investment, its a depreciating asset.

I don't approve of the mods coz I think its bad taste, so I won't be trying to help acquire or modify his car, but its his money and his car to do what he wants with. Just stop with all this resale BS!

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I don’t know about the availability of specific models or their prices, but let me tell you this in general.

Think about your priorities: are you going to be a 100% dependent on the car for daily use? If you can afford to live without a car (for periods at a time perhaps until things are getting done on it) then it’s a perfect opportunity for a project. You`ve got to be prepared to spend time, effort and money on some lump of metal, this is not an easy task if you are not ready for it. I know plenty of people who would start cursing the car, the brand, the designer, and all the rest of it when things go wrong..!! You are thinking about getting an old car. Can be something minor or a major failure, but things go wrong in EVERY old car. But it`s pretty easy to do preventative maintenance and to reduce the risk of failure if you do your research and put some effort in to it (whatever the brand/model it is).

Think about what kind of car you need: Mini/VW Beetle/Cortina have completely different characteristics from each other. You would not want to be cramped inside a mini or vw bug if you value space inside a car. Obviously, bigger cars involve higher fuel costs to run; again, the suitability depends on your intended usage pattern.

Know whether you are going to keep this car: I reckon it`s absolutely essential to decide whether you are going to continue with a car as a project or whether this is just going to be an intermediate solution till you upgrade. If it`s a keeper, no worries, you can first work with the 800k and dump more as and when you go.

Don’t hurry in to things, do your research and then make up your mind. You could also consider old Japanese classics such as: Datsun: 1600/Bluebird, B210, B310 ; Toyota: Ke20, ke30 or larger sedans ; old crowns, coronas , etc…Heck, even the Mitsubishi Galant (fourth generation 1980-1987) is a pretty awesome full sized Jap sedan for the money. The Datto 1600 or ke20 would be my pick, plenty of material online to read on these, you could also do a complete engine conversion (later on perhaps, when/if funds are available) and make a monster of a little ripper out of these. I’m sure parts are not too difficult to come by in SL as well.

Anybody here at AL would NOT recommend you to add body kits etc… and make a Frankenstein out of a car, but the items you are thinking of below are perfectly ok to invest any amount of money on, because these are bolt on`s which are (mostly) not specific to a certain car (can remove and reuse if required).

  • Decent sound system
  • Bucket Seats
  • Large Alloy-wheels with thin tires
  • Sport Speed meters

Jut my two rupees. Good luck… :)

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It seems the "Arak gaththu yaka" of the forum cannot tolerate a dig or two!!!! :sport-smiley-004:

What an utter imbecile you are. Take a look at history and and see if I censor people having digs at me. That was the work of someone else, but like the fool you have proven to be, you jumped to the assumption it was me.

And if my post was worth two cents, then what was yours worth? Nothing, much like yourself?

BTW, that would be your cue to shut up. Try that bullshit again, I won't be replying on the forum.

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Please for god sakes leave the Cortina and the 504 along and if you really wanna ruin Modify a car. stick with a lancer or a corolla

atleast people will be able to find spare parts after you sell it.

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why not buy a decent running car first and then build your requirement around it over time...from you post i gather that you want something that looks flashy not necessarily performance. You can start with a ground up paint job and body work and eventually move into interior and sounds. with your budget it makes sense to play the patience game..sometimes you might be able to score a decent ford lazer or a CRX 1....if you end up with the 504 maybe you can do it up like the Peugeot in that french movie Taxi

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I don’t know about the availability of specific models or their prices, but let me tell you this in general.

Think about your priorities: are you going to be a 100% dependent on the car for daily use? If you can afford to live without a car (for periods at a time perhaps until things are getting done on it) then it’s a perfect opportunity for a project. You`ve got to be prepared to spend time, effort and money on some lump of metal, this is not an easy task if you are not ready for it. I know plenty of people who would start cursing the car, the brand, the designer, and all the rest of it when things go wrong..!! You are thinking about getting an old car. Can be something minor or a major failure, but things go wrong in EVERY old car. But it`s pretty easy to do preventative maintenance and to reduce the risk of failure if you do your research and put some effort in to it (whatever the brand/model it is).

Think about what kind of car you need: Mini/VW Beetle/Cortina have completely different characteristics from each other. You would not want to be cramped inside a mini or vw bug if you value space inside a car. Obviously, bigger cars involve higher fuel costs to run; again, the suitability depends on your intended usage pattern.

Know whether you are going to keep this car: I reckon it`s absolutely essential to decide whether you are going to continue with a car as a project or whether this is just going to be an intermediate solution till you upgrade. If it`s a keeper, no worries, you can first work with the 800k and dump more as and when you go.

Don’t hurry in to things, do your research and then make up your mind. You could also consider old Japanese classics such as: Datsun: 1600/Bluebird, B210, B310 ; Toyota: Ke20, ke30 or larger sedans ; old crowns, coronas , etc…Heck, even the Mitsubishi Galant (fourth generation 1980-1987) is a pretty awesome full sized Jap sedan for the money. The Datto 1600 or ke20 would be my pick, plenty of material online to read on these, you could also do a complete engine conversion (later on perhaps, when/if funds are available) and make a monster of a little ripper out of these. I’m sure parts are not too difficult to come by in SL as well.

Anybody here at AL would NOT recommend you to add body kits etc… and make a Frankenstein out of a car, but the items you are thinking of below are perfectly ok to invest any amount of money on, because these are bolt on`s which are (mostly) not specific to a certain car (can remove and reuse if required).

  • Decent sound system
  • Bucket Seats
  • Large Alloy-wheels with thin tires
  • Sport Speed meters

Jut my two rupees. Good luck… :)

thank you very much sir...we have a nice axio 2011 car in home...even i got the licen i got think twice or call daddy to take it away...thats why i wanna car to me and want it to show a real style

yes and lot of people says i might have to sell it again with a loss...but that lost is small than my crazy to have one now...thats why i wanna do it...the original look is almost ok...i think both of the cars only tires need to change the get that look.....maybe i will keep it for me for ever....and also i think if i can do it like the way its in my mind im sure i can sell it too....but that is where the risk is as you sed....chance of failier is very high...

yes i will not be hurry...gonna check everything...talking about parts most of then can be ordered via ebay.....

i will check that others cars too...thanks for them..i really expect more suggestions as i dont know about them...specially names,...

look this one also - http://www.autolanka.com/ad.asp?ID=91683

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thank you very much sir...we have a nice axio 2011 car in home...even i got the licen i got think twice or call daddy to take it away...thats why i wanna car to me and want it to show a real style

yes and lot of people says i might have to sell it again with a loss...but that lost is small than my crazy to have one now...thats why i wanna do it...the original look is almost ok...i think both of the cars only tires need to change the get that look.....maybe i will keep it for me for ever....and also i think if i can do it like the way its in my mind im sure i can sell it too....but that is where the risk is as you sed....chance of failier is very high...

yes i will not be hurry...gonna check everything...talking about parts most of then can be ordered via ebay.....

i will check that others cars too...thanks for them..i really expect more suggestions as i dont know about them...specially names,...

look this one also - http://www.autolanka...ad.asp?ID=91683

Chamath,

I think you need to approach different cars differently.

With the Cortina, I think to so called upgrade/ modification route is the muscle car route. So you could tastefully upgrade the wheels with ones which fit the era, the interior, the paintwork and even the engine and make a really mean looking machine. But try to keep the original shape because that is what endears to people.

The 504 will give you less classic upgrade options because it was not a car which was modified like that. So the approach should probably be to restore to original than modify and there again you will end up with a cracker.

I will also suggest an interesting proposition (just to mix things up). If you can find an old 90s era Proton Wira or a Lancer or Mirage of that era (not easy but not impossible within 800K) you can use the Evo III styling parts, and drop in a 4G93T engine giving you a near 200BHP car. The 4G93 is not that difficult to find though the the turbo T might be. This would of course be a long term project where you slowly source the parts and build it up. And the reason why I didn't suggest the full Evo upgrade was that making the car AWD will involve a lot more money, and the conversions have not been that great because you have to weld in the brackets for the rear diff and it seems to be a weak point. Keeping it FWD with manageable power is a better option.

The most important thing is to find the best route for the particular vehicle. Try to learn from other's experience by reading up on things on blogs etc.

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Yeap, 70`s, 80`s jap classics are well respected all over the globe: http://gripshiftslide.com/2011/11/21/classic-japan-show/

Research about distinct styling/performance additions in that era related to the JDM tuning scene. For example front air diffusers, watanabe wheels, fender mounted mirrors, etc…

On the Datto 1600, there`s plenty of material on SR20DET motor conversions. Same with 4AGE motor conversions for corolla ke20/30. I am not saying these are easy/cheap things to do, just food for thought for you for the moment.

One more thing, from a local context, the most prominent issue with cars of this era would be rust/body condition. Mechanical things are relatively easy to fix/replace, but getting body work done properly could be a painful task. I would look for original body/panel/interior condition over mechanical niggles if I’m hunting for a machine like this.

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Hi Chamath, interesting subject.

I would go for the Corti as 504 are too much in demand to get a good one at a great price.

The Mk3 Corti can be made to look cool. The challenge is to enhance it tastefully and not go over the top and make it an eyesore. Looking at the pics you posted I think you're on the right track.

800k is a decent amount for a project like this. But let me warn you things often take longer to achieve that we think it will take. And there are many pitfalls that you need to try and avoid.

The main thing to remember when buying a not very rare old car like a Mk3 Corti is the body condition. The better it is, the more you will save cash for mechanical and cosmetic mods. So treat this as the most critical consideration. The body should be as original as possible. Avoid cars with lots of filler or rust. Take a guy who can tap around the car and creep underneath and knows what to look for.

The second most important area to beware of is the Interior. On a car of this age it will be mostly plastic and can easily get destroyed. But if you can't find one with an original interior (use this as a bargaining tool), and since you want to go the "tuned" route you might be able to turn out a tasteful custom interior. The key word again is "tasteful".

You also need to find a good tinker, a good painter and a good upholsterer if you want to get the look right. So beware they are a rare breed in Sri Lanka, especially tinkers.

Finally in my view there is not much point in pimping up a car only to look fast if actually it is 1.3L underneath. Even 1.6 Corti's were yawningly slow. So as stage two have an idea to upgrade the performance of the car.

Other cars you may want to consider are Escorts Mk 1 and 2 which will offer more performance and agility than the Corti owing to their lighter weight and have many performance enhancing parts in the UK. However if you like the US muscle car look of the Mk3 Corti go for it! Good luck!

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Hi Chamath, interesting subject.

I would go for the Corti as 504 are too much in demand to get a good one at a great price.

The Mk3 Corti can be made to look cool. The challenge is to enhance it tastefully and not go over the top and make it an eyesore. Looking at the pics you posted I think you're on the right track.

800k is a decent amount for a project like this. But let me warn you things often take longer to achieve that we think it will take. And there are many pitfalls that you need to try and avoid.

The main thing to remember when buying a not very rare old car like a Mk3 Corti is the body condition. The better it is, the more you will save cash for mechanical and cosmetic mods. So treat this as the most critical consideration. The body should be as original as possible. Avoid cars with lots of filler or rust. Take a guy who can tap around the car and creep underneath and knows what to look for.

The second most important area to beware of is the Interior. On a car of this age it will be mostly plastic and can easily get destroyed. But if you can't find one with an original interior (use this as a bargaining tool), and since you want to go the "tuned" route you might be able to turn out a tasteful custom interior. The key word again is "tasteful".

You also need to find a good tinker, a good painter and a good upholsterer if you want to get the look right. So beware they are a rare breed in Sri Lanka, especially tinkers.

Finally in my view there is not much point in pimping up a car only to look fast if actually it is 1.3L underneath. Even 1.6 Corti's were yawningly slow. So as stage two have an idea to upgrade the performance of the car.

Other cars you may want to consider are Escorts Mk 1 and 2 which will offer more performance and agility than the Corti owing to their lighter weight and have many performance enhancing parts in the UK. However if you like the US muscle car look of the Mk3 Corti go for it! Good luck!

thanks for the comments sir...:)

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I'd go for an Escort or a CRX mk1.The mk1 Escort has grown in popularity among the SL youth in the past few years and I see some lovely examples on the road these days...The CRX is already is already a legend.Hence the asking prices for both are on the rise.

About the KE Corrollas and Datsuns,they are nice cars but not what I'd call classics.No matter how much you do it up it'll still be an old Corrolla/Sunny etc.

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Finding a CRX 1 would be quite hard eh MasterDon?

True...

My dad's old car is up for sale though at Dankotuwa.You must have seen it on the way to Pannala on the right.But the new owner has molested it beyond belief.Bodykit,stickers you name it....Hope someone would buy and bring it back to original state.Was a minter when we had it.

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