Recomendations For A Good Throttlebody Cleaner

[67Dodge]

Hi all,

im looking for a good Throttlebody cleaning compound. any recommendations & where do you get them from?

thanks!

[Sylvi]

67Dodge,

Try 3M or CRC Throttle body cleaner. There are few others in service Petrol filling stations as well as super markets.

I use acetone once in 2000 kilometers for 10 minutes. Have done 20000 Kilometers still did not open out anything on the engine.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

[jdnet]

  On 3/12/2013 at 2:16 PM, Sylvi said:

67Dodge,

Try 3M or CRC Throttle body cleaner. There are few others in service Petrol filling stations as well as super markets.

I use acetone once in 2000 kilometers for 10 minutes. Have done 20000 Kilometers still did not open out anything on the engine.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

Another excellent piece of sylvi advice. Clean the throttle body every 2k km and destroy the coating on the plate in order to 'improve' things.

Nothing bad can happen right?

[The Don]

There is also the issue of the fast idle air valve which utilizes a thermo sensitive wax like substance to adjust the idle up on a cold start. This can also be ruined when using carb cleaner on an EFI throttle body.

Basically you need to be very careful when cleaning out the throttle body.

[Sylvi]

  On 3/12/2013 at 5:27 PM, The Don said:

There is also the issue of the fast idle air valve which utilizes a thermo sensitive wax like substance to adjust the idle up on a cold start. This can also be ruined when using carb cleaner on an EFI throttle body.

Basically you need to be very careful when cleaning out the throttle body.

The Don,

OK I accept your post. The valve you mention has a wax like substance to rev up the engine when it is on cold start.

I am a very practical technician. Taken challenges in mechanical and electrical units from my childhood days with my own funds.

So that no one can point the finger to me I destroyed his or hers any of those units I have mentioned above.

AL forum for last two years, members administrators I do not deceit by my posts, and also few international forums for decades.

Almost all carburetor and Throttle body cleaners have acetone to a certain extent.

All over the world this is used in automobile industry for decades. I have not done a extensive study on the valve you mention.

No manufacture will recommend throttle body cleaner with acetone to be used on their vehicles. If it is bad.

Below copied from the By a reputed throttle body cleaner manufacture.

All throttle body cleaners are made with mixture of: Acetone. Contain between 20 and 30 percent acetone, which is a good all-purpose solvent for any kind of hydrocarbon. Carburetor cleaners tend to use the very aggressive but quickly evaporating toluene to melt resins, whereas TB cleaners tend to use the slower evaporating and less-aggressive xylene to break apart heavy soot particles and oil. TB cleaners generally contain higher quantities of glycol ethers, which slowly evaporate, repel water and act as a "soap" to make the metal surface slick.

Product Name:

Throttle Body and Air Intake Cleaner

(aerosol)

Product Use:

Fuel-Injection Air Intake Cleaner

:

CRC Industries, Inc. CRC Canada Co. CRC Industries Mexico

885 Louis Drive 2-1246 Lorimar Drive Av. Benito Juárez 4055 G

:

Section 3: Composition/Information on Ingredients

COMPONENT

CAS NUMBER

% by Wt.

Acetone

67-64-1

75 - 85

Heptane isomers

142-82-5

4 – 8

Toluene

108-88-3

2 – 5

Diacetone alcohol

123-42-2

< 1

Carbon dioxide

124-38-9

5 - 15

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

Edited March 13, 2013 by Sylvi

[Rumesh88]

  jdnet said:

Another excellent piece of sylvi advice. Clean the throttle body every 2k km and destroy the coating on the plate in order to 'improve' things.

Nothing bad can happen right?

Well I see the bright side. Let Sylvi try and tell us what happens in a few months time (I have no idea how long it takes for him to drive 2k kms). Until then let's wait patiently. Unless someone dare to try out these things how would we know? Edited March 13, 2013 by Rumesh88

[Pericles]

  On 3/13/2013 at 2:52 AM, Rumesh88 said:

Well I see the bright side. Let Sylvi try and tell us what happens in a few months time (I have no idea how long it takes for him to drive 2k kms). Until then let's wait patiently. Unless someone dare to try out these things how would we know?

The POS's that Sylvi drives will probably fall apart due to other reasons before any ill effects from throttle body cleaners every 2k Kms show itself. After which he will shape-ekay sell said Frankenstiens to some poor unsuspecting soul, while virtuously declaring that he experiments on his own equipment.

[jdnet]

  On 3/13/2013 at 1:56 AM, Sylvi said:

I am a very practical technician.

The common term is makabaas.

[jdnet]

With all this 'scientific experimentation' that sylv does, I'm rather surprised that he doesn't have cancer yet.

[Rumesh88]

  jdnet said:

With all this 'scientific experimentation' that sylv does, I'm rather surprised that he doesn't have cancer yet.

Well that's a well thought out complement I believe!. You have put him on the same footing with none other than the Nobel Laureate Marie Curie!! LOL.

BTW as for the OP, there are number of products in the market with various brand names (Wurth, 3M, STP, CRC Abro, to name a few)and available in most of auto spare shops, but one has to keep in mind that all these solvents may have some effect on the surrounding non-metal parts (TPS sensor, rubber, plastic, adhesive, sealants). If you are careful enough to use the aerosol spray only on the metal parts of the throttle body, you can use any of the TB or carb cleaners and need not be much selective. (The only solvent I can think of, which is safe on a engine part is gasoline). Even mild solvents like isopropyl is known to cause damage on certain plastic parts.

[Sylvi]

  On 3/13/2013 at 2:52 AM, Rumesh88 said:

Well I see the bright side. Let Sylvi try and tell us what happens in a few months time (I have no idea how long it takes for him to drive 2k kms). Until then let's wait patiently. Unless someone dare to try out these things how would we know?

Rumesh88,

There had been negative replies for Acetone use early also. On this AL forum. I have used Acetone for about two years on my Omni vehicle.

Without any damage. I use this cheap Indian made vehicle.Most AL members hate Indian build vehicles. Use same for my day to day transport.

Do not want to have a expensive vehicle for my work use, because from the time when you buy a vehicle it depreciates the value.

In SL few sell their new used vehicles at a profit.Relative of mine advertised his Honda which he bought new for 6.2M now cannot sell for 4 M.

Have another Rexton for family use.

I have used this acetone for last 15 years, for petrol engine vehicles In SL.

Almost five years I was in USA a research and development laboratory. Where they do plenty of developments for automobiles and medical instruments.

Have seen in developed countries also use this for various experiments in certain car engines.

I know the acetone will damage all rubber parts. Effect other parts of engine also. My cheap vehicle let me experiment if it fails I don't regret.

I will write about my experiment, positive or negative, if I live more years. I am 70 years old end of this year.

I used a gas conversion on a SU carburetor which I did it by my self used for 50000 kilometers. Without any problems

The following web page will give some information on acetone using on vehicles.

http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Acetone_as_a_Fuel_Additive

This is a common thing in this forum few members do not like my posts, they some times abuse me. I am given my last waning also. 8 in all.

Your posts have some value, which is very educative to motorists. I find your interests are electronics.

You are a assert to this forum.

God luck to you.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

[Sylvi]

  On 3/13/2013 at 6:06 AM, Pericles said:

The POS's that Sylvi drives will probably fall apart due to other reasons before any ill effects from throttle body cleaners every 2k Kms show itself. After which he will shape-ekay sell said Frankenstiens to some poor unsuspecting soul, while virtuously declaring that he experiments on his own equipment.

Pericles,

In my life of 69+ years I have not cheated any one. In future also I will not cheat any one.

Therefore do not put me in to that category. Garage repair shop owner,car seller who will buy a car and sell same after doing all shortcuts to make a profit.

I have used vehicles from my very young days.

owned vehicles from 1960 mid part. Never sold a used vehicle (shape-ekay) sell to any one patched up in bad condition.

All who bought my used vehicles have become my family friends.

No customer can point his finger at me, I have cheated him or her.

I still do work for all government department Vehicles ( Most expensive security vehicles) and automobile agents, dealers, building contractors for their needs.

Have handled more than 25000 Automobiles and other related jobs to my profession for last 20 years, this is my 21st year in SL.

I am the most expensive in my profession today in SL.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

[Rumesh88]

  Sylvi said:

Rumesh88,

I will write about my experiment, positive or negative, if I live more years. I am 70 years old end of this year.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

Sylvi

That's the most important thing. I always read your posts with interest whether they are relevant, irrelevant, informative or not, and as the case sometimes is (if I may call spade a spade), just outright hilarious. This is a public forum where some opinions may not agree with those of yours. Interaction in any form, encourages your thought process. Sure, you will live a long and healthy life with God's blessings.

My point in response to the OP was that no single solvent is perfectly safe on all the materials inside an engine. Hence, one should take care to apply the solvent only where it is needed and to limit the frequency of usage to a minimum.

[Pericles]

  On 3/14/2013 at 2:46 AM, Sylvi said:

Pericles,

owned vehicles from 1960 mid part. Never sold a used vehicle (shape-ekay) sell to any one patched up in bad condition.

So, when you are done with the Omni, will you just sell it on?

  On 3/14/2013 at 2:08 AM, Sylvi said:

I know the acetone will damage all rubber parts. Effect other parts of engine also. My cheap vehicle let me experiment if it fails I don't regret.

While knowing you've been adding something that will cause damage every 2000kms?

[CJ5]

  On 3/14/2013 at 2:08 AM, Sylvi said:

I will write about my experiment, positive or negative, if I live more years. I am 70 years old end of this year..........

........, they some times abuse me. I am given my last waning also. 8 in all.

Dear members

Don't you think we should show SOME respect to our fellow "pro member" Sylvi who is 70 (69+) years old by not being abusive to him as he could also well be the oldest member in the forum????

Also, wouldn't you think that having a joke at the expense of a 70 year old about cancer is not in very good taste?????

Edited March 14, 2013 by CJ5

[Rumesh88]

  On 3/14/2013 at 10:55 AM, CJ5 said:

Dear members

Don't you think we should show SOME respect to our fellow "pro member" Sylvi who is 70 (69+) years old by not being abusive to him as he could also well be the oldest member in the forum????

Also, wouldn't you think that having a joke at the expense of a 70 year old about cancer is not in very good taste?????

Thank you CJ5 for the much needed comment.

[Supra_Natural]

  On 3/14/2013 at 10:55 AM, CJ5 said:

Dear members

Don't you think we should show SOME respect to our fellow "pro member" Sylvi who is 70 (69+) years old by not being abusive to him as he could also well be the oldest member in the forum????

Also, wouldn't you think that having a joke at the expense of a 70 year old about cancer is not in very good taste?????

In a word.. No.

[Pericles]

  On 3/14/2013 at 10:55 AM, CJ5 said:

Dear members

Don't you think we should show SOME respect to our fellow "pro member" Sylvi who is 70 (69+) years old by not being abusive to him as he could also well be the oldest member in the forum????

No from here too. Respect is given to those who earn it.

[67Dodge]

Wow,... a thread about a simple Question, yet most of the responses are personal attacks. seems to be a trend here.

To anybody actually interested in the Topic, i used 3M Throttle body cleaner. works fantastic. Its safe for coated throttle bodies too. cost is 1500Rs. If you've got a high mileage vehicle with a PCV or EGR inlet into the intake, give it a try. the accumilated gunk is scary,

[Sylvi]

  On 3/19/2013 at 4:19 AM, 67Dodge said:

Wow,... a thread about a simple Question, yet most of the responses are personal attacks. seems to be a trend here. To anybody actually interested in the Topic, i used 3M Throttle body cleaner. works fantastic. Its safe for coated throttle bodies too. cost is 1500Rs. If you've got a high mileage vehicle with a PCV or EGR inlet into the intake, give it a try. the accumilated gunk is scary,

67 Dodge,

I have been notice to post to topic. Some of my posts are deleted.

I post to this forum because I was in Electrical & Automobile industry for many decades.

Your post is perfectly correct. Some are posting not to the topic.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

[Pericles]

  On 3/12/2013 at 7:30 AM, 67Dodge said:

Hi all, im looking for a good Throttlebody cleaning compound. any recommendations & where do you get them from? thanks!

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  On 3/19/2013 at 4:19 AM, 67Dodge said:

Wow,... a thread about a simple Question, yet most of the responses are personal attacks. seems to be a trend here. To anybody actually interested in the Topic, i used 3M Throttle body cleaner. works fantastic. Its safe for coated throttle bodies too. cost is 1500Rs. If you've got a high mileage vehicle with a PCV or EGR inlet into the intake, give it a try. the accumilated gunk is scary,

In one week.

[Crosswind]

Local 3M agent???

[67Dodge]

  On 3/19/2013 at 6:53 AM, Pericles said:

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In one week.

This "one Week" timeframe youve so graciously highlighted, is not acceptable to you is it?

[67Dodge]

  On 3/19/2013 at 6:58 AM, Crosswind said:

Local 3M agent???

Sadly, no... its in my bucket list though,

[Pericles]

  On 3/19/2013 at 8:03 AM, 67Dodge said:

This "one Week" timeframe youve so graciously highlighted, is not acceptable to you is it?

If it wasn't acceptable, you wouldn't need to ask. I was making an observation.

[67Dodge]

  On 3/19/2013 at 8:16 AM, Pericles said:

If it wasn't acceptable, you wouldn't need to ask. I was making an observation.

really? because it seemed like it had the makings of a snide remark.