HHO Fuel saver

[miraj]

Anyone use HHO generator as a fuel saver.I Saw many DIY  HHO projects in internet. They are saying It can save fuel up to 40 percent.

1)Is it true

2)Is it safe or will it damage my car engine?

Does anyone have experiances with HHO?

[The Stig]

Not one of these again

For God sakes vehicle manufacturers have millions of dollars allocated to R&D, dont you think if its simple as fitting a box they would have done that by now ?

 

11 hours ago, tux said:

But from where you get electricity to electrolysis of water?  It has to be the alternator of the car and more electricity consumed = more load on engine. So still no net energy gain.

If you can source electricity to this system without getting it from car's electric system, then this will work. ( like roof mounted solar, portable nuclear generator, some black magic....)

Remember the hype around how one genius in Sri Lanka managed make the car run on water ? yeah of course you can do that, but in the long run it makes absolutely no financial sense.

Edited August 30, 2016 by The Stig

[Muditha420]

Well no experience what so ever with any sorta fuel saver n no one that i know of used these but IF it does wouldn't the manufacturer have it as standard in there cars?? as in the Internet some say it does and some say it doesn't and maybe hopefully someone here tried it

[tux]

Chemistry and physics in this universe does not support to do this.

What that diagrams says is

H2O >H2 + O2  ( by electrolysis  )

Send H2 + O2 to intake and let it burn inside engine which reduce fuel consumption.

 

Start and end of the reaction is H2O, so there can't be a net energy output. Electrolysis of water is extremely inefficient process, so there will be net energy loss.

[Rumesh88]

35 minutes ago, tux said:

Chemistry and physics in this universe does not support to do this.

What that diagrams says is

H2O >H2 + O2  ( by electrolysis  )

Send H2 + O2 to intake and let it burn inside engine which reduce fuel consumption.

 

Start and end of the reaction is H2O, so there can't be a net energy output. Electrolysis of water is extremely inefficient process, so there will be net energy loss.

Not necessarily so. Of course what you say is true if you burn H2 and O2 mixture alone in an engine. But here we add it to a gasoline and air mixture. If, for some reason, the mixture fails to burn cleanly, adding a mixture of H2 and O2 can improve the burning process and there by the power and efficiency. But if you fix the system to an engine already burning its gasoline and air mixture efficiently, it would not show any improvement.

Edited August 30, 2016 by Rumesh88

[gayanath]

Quoted from Wiki,

// To date, hydrogen fuel enhancement products have not been specifically addressed by the United States Environmental Protection Agency, as no research devices or commercial products have reports available as per the "Motor Vehicle Aftermarket Retrofit Device Evaluation Program."^[10] They do, however, point out that installation of such devices often involves illegally tampering with an automobile's emissions control system, which could result in significant fines.^[11]Environment Canada does have a research paper on the subject. In tests done in their laboratory in 2004 they found no improvement in engine efficiency or fuel economy. //

[tux]

36 minutes ago, Rumesh88 said:

Not necessarily so. Of course what you say is true if you burn H2 and O2 mixture alone in an engine. But here we add it to a gasoline and air mixture. If, for some reason, the mixture fails to burn cleanly, adding a mixture of H2 and O2 can improve the burning process and there by the power and efficiency. But if you fix the system to an engine already burning its gasoline and air mixture efficiently, it would not show any improvement.

But from where you get electricity to electrolysis of water?  It has to be the alternator of the car and more electricity consumed = more load on engine. So still no net energy gain.

If you can source electricity to this system without getting it from car's electric system, then this will work. ( like roof mounted solar, portable nuclear generator, some black magic....)

[Crosswind]

This crap has been discussed and laid to rest three years ago. Does anyone remember "Fuel Saving Nana's Thread"?

Here it is:

 

 

[amila Hangangawatte]

Am need hho generator for 1300 car.ples generator kit and pris

 

[mazdaspeed]

Hi

May be a bit OT

There is a "Tablet" been advertised these days  By a well know race driver  - any one using this ?

Echo Tablet - it's suppose to be a octane booster  and not a fuel saver  as such