Breakdowns On Toyota Aqua

[sharky]

If you really want a cheaper alternative to the aqua with regard to comfort etc. go for a ksp90 vitz, extremely reliable even when abused by your typical Sri Lankan driver and gives pretty good fuel mileage too, and resale value is up there with the 121 110 etc (at least at the moment). Btw the interior of the vitz and aqua are quite similar. I had the same choice regarding a hybrid or a conventional gasoline and I went for the vitz even though driving it is like riding a geriatric scooter with 4 wheels!. If you really want some decent return at resale, hybrids still have people wary, go for something a little more rock solid.

Also a piece of personal advice, unless you really love a car, ie. love driving it, working on it. don't blow all your savings etc on it. The status factor will wear off after a while and all you will see is your paycheck being raped in half covering leases/loans!

Edited April 3, 2014 by sharky

[rover]

As a user of a prius 2nd gen car for the last three years I would say go for the Aqua. You will not regret it. It's a very reliable car. The only time it let me down was when the inverter coolant pump failed. But thats the 2nd gen Prius. Toyota Hybrids has evolved much since then. If your sole intention is fuel saving then going for a lease is not advisable.

Also as someone suggested you can go for a older diesel jap like the ce110. But remember you are buying a 12-14 year old car and no matter how cheap the spare parts are, from time to time you will have to waste a considerable amount of time in the garage. Also finding a properly maintained car of that age is not that easy.

When I bought my Prius 3 years ago I bought it not only because it's fuel efficient but also of it's reliability. I am away from the country most of the time and I have peace of mind knowing that my wife will not be spending time in garages or spare parts shops or get stranded in the middle of the road.

So don't think too much about the rumours and just go for it. Good luck.

Edited April 3, 2014 by rover

[Komisiripala]

Think you are in love with that aqua.

If your sole purpose is saving money.

Just buy jap Diesel.

CE110 CE 108 COROLLA.

CT 190 corona or carina.

With a 2C diesel engine.

You will get same running cost 7rs per km.

And it has so called 2airbags and ABS.

maintenance will be pretty easy.

Parts, should i mention?

Gearbox is 25k.

Engine is 150k.

Every body panal is damn cheap.

You have spares from various brands.

Compressor is 15k.

Radiator 15k.

You can replce all parts of car and 2 engines at a price of hybrid battery.

Plus it can repaired by any local garage so you will not be ripped off by hybrid specialists.

Believe me ,currently im touchering toyota 2C engine with eight (300km weekend) long trips per month and all A to B on weekdays during whole month.

I pumped 21500 worth of diesel and travelled 2800km during last month.(mix driving)

It outrun your Aqua and maruti too unless you run in heavy city traffic with bumper to bumper stop.

A decent diesel will cost you half price of aqua.

Buy a land from remaining 1.8mil.

See the profit after your 10 year run.

someone give this man a medal. no really. chan5. bro, you're awesome.

[VVTi]

Also as someone suggested you can go for a older diesel jap like the ce110. But remember you are buying a 12-14 year old car and no matter how cheap the spare parts are, from time to time you will have to waste a considerable amount of time in the garage.

You don’t have to stay in the garage while they fix it.... go do something else. Like water the plants or something.

I am away from the country most of the time and I have peace of mind knowing that my wife will not be spending time in garages or spare parts shops or get stranded in the middle of the road.

Or not bonking the mechanic while you are away, right?

Edited April 3, 2014 by VVTi

[Komisiripala]

Bada allagena hina

[rover]

You don’t have to stay in the garage while they fix it.... go do something else. Like water the plants or something.

I would'nt do that with my car. Unless the garage is next door.

Or not bonking the mechanic while you are away, right?

It seems that you have a problem leting go of the past. Just let it go machang.

Live and let live!

[trinity]

Yet another Hybrid thread.

[VVTi]

Repost

Edited April 4, 2014 by VVTi

[VVTi]

I would'nt do that with my car. Unless the garage is next door.It seems that you have a problem leting go of the past. Just let it go machang. Live and let live!

Lol. At the rate you are planning on staying at the garage it might be a great idea to get to know your wife. Some side show action might do her some good.

[rover]

Lol. At the rate you are planning on staying at the garage it might be a great idea to get to know your wife. Some side show action might do her some good.

You never got what I meant don't ya? Are you high?

[iRage]

Toyota Hybrids has evolved much since then.

To me this is one other problem of having a Hybrid on a LONG-TERM basis. The technology is still changing so much that current technology becomes obsolete (maybe too harsh.."irrelevant" or "antiquated") quite fast. On a side note didn't Toyota say that they will introduce Hydrogen Hybrids by 2015/2016 ? Also they are improving/changing the current HSD so it can work on heavy vehicles like the Land Cruiser. So as you correctly said it has evolved and still evolving.

In a country like Japan I would have no quandaries about buying a Hybrid using it for two or three years,during which time I get a manufacturer warranty and proper technical support; and selling it off/trading-in for a new car. However, in Sri Lanka the situation is a bit different ne ? <We seriously did shop for a Hybrid and eventually go for a 14 year old ICE)

Even if with proper care and maintenance the Aqua/Hybrid does last for ten years the question remains who is going to buy one that is known to be of out dated complicated technology ?

So..yeah....uhh....if you want to buy a new car then an Aqua is a decent choice. However if you want to save money, on the short-run you may save on fuel costs, etc...but in the long run it is going to be equally or even more expensive than your average ICE.

[Komisiripala]

ICE: Internal Combustion Engine.

i'm saying for the benefit of OP. i'll bet my left testicle he didnt' know what.

[kamal_bandara]

by seeing all this what i see is there are + and - for a hybrid on long term. it will be out dated for sure even for the Gen 1 Prius its has same faith with selling for scrap metal now.

Now its a hard decision to make..diesel Jap or a Aqua.. any way soon i have to decide since i'm going to sell the Indian soon. what i'm going to do i will update with the post.

[VVTi]

by seeing all this what i see is there are + and - for a hybrid on long term. it will be out dated for sure even for the Gen 1 Prius its has same faith with selling for scrap metal now.

Now its a hard decision to make..diesel Jap or a Aqua.. any way soon i have to decide since i'm going to sell the Indian soon. what i'm going to do i will update with the post.

Take your time machang... seriously.. we are not in a rush.

[anonymous]

I think we all know what you are gonna choose from 12-14 year old jap and Aqua.

[aamarakoon]

Just buy a jap around 2 mil. You will save a lot of money. Only time you feel uncomfotable with a ICE is at the petrol pump. But in the long run its cheaper.

[defendertdi]

if u r not using ur car frequenter then no use of buying an Aqua.... also whether people like it or not most of JP Domestic models which are very popular in SL gona launch the Hybrid Version e.g Premio,allion in 2015 also Axio hybrid as already they have launched.

If a hybrid car is properly maintained and if you purchase a Accident free car from Japan.. i think car will not give you trouble for 4-5 years... also there are technicians who are capable of solving problems which occurs in electronic units of the Vehicle .......

[chan5]

Beacuse you are so drunk,

the guy need cheaper mode of tranportation.

Which he is going to achieve by a loan or busting his all savings.do you get it?

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[kamal_bandara]

As far as i heard this is being fixed on TL on Wattala free of charge and issue comes if we are running around 400Kms straight drive. thats what i heard i could be wrong. better call TL and ask for more correct details.

[Hoonigan]

Well this thread had been excellent reading.

OP, as far as I understood, your ultimate concern is not fuel economy but overall cost of ownership. At the risk of beating a dead horse, I would second what most have suggested. You are better off keeping your car. If what you say holds true, you have kept up with maintaining it well, therefore it makes sense to hold on to it for a little longer.

If you are keen to upgrade your safety and comfort, there are options that won't cost as much to buy or run compared to a new hybrid. Many have been cited above.

Also remember that a newer car will depreciate in value much harder than an older car. So you won't lose as much in resale value either.

This is assuming that your main priority is to be even more economical than an Indian Suzuki (I didn't even think that is even possible without losing two wheels) But if you have the hots for an Aqua and you're just trying to justify it to yourself, you might as well buy it and enjoy it. Just remember that you can't have the cake and eat it at the same time.

[kamal_bandara]

Small update on this- It has been 4 months since i bought a AQUA L grade for 3.4mil and already run around 8000Kms and done 2 services using 10W30 oil and i get around 24-25kmpl on City with avg 50-60kmph and highway 21-22avg kmpl and outstation 29-30kmpl avg with speed 60-70 kmph avg. I will send more updates soon.

[RViji]

Small update on this- It has been 10years since i bought a Lumala Zero grade for Rs.9000 and already run around 800Kms and done 20 services using Singer machine oil and i get around 24-25kmp.bath_packet on City with avg 5-6kmph and Boralu-way 21-22avg kmp.bath_packet and outstation 29-30kmp.bath_packet avg with speed 6-7 kmph avg. I will send more updates soon.

but jokes aside,

interesting you get less kmpl on the highway with the Hybrid,what speed are you travelling?

one reason Hybrids are not popular in Europe,because they give less mileage/towing power than diesels in highway use.

And they get very noisy with the elctric motor once they go past 130kmph,but probably not relevant to Sri lanka.

[ozzie]

Now i belive the price on the aqua has plummeted?

There are so many on the road, I don't understand why some of you people don't like the Aqua, if someone likes it let them go for it, I have a friend who has an allion and a aqua, and he drives the aqua more often and says is as comfortable as his allion 260.

[iRage]

There are so many on the road, I don't understand why some of you people don't like the Aqua, if someone likes it let them go for it, I have a friend who has an allion and a aqua, and he drives the aqua more often and says is as comfortable as his allion 260.

No idea what the purpose of your post was….but giving you the benefit of the doubt….I think you are misunderstanding the stand of quite a few of the contributors…

It is not a dislike towards the Aqua….it is more or less a realistic uncertainty and concerns about the serviceability and maintainability of Hybrid vehicles in Sri Lanka (considering the limited technical resources and know how available) in the LONG TERM. It highlights the fact that the costs associated with fixing problems (and depreciation of the vehicle) that arise from long term usage of Hybrids. Hopefully you can see that the long term usage of these cars introduces a whole new dimension to the ownership cost of Hybrids that simply do not apply in countries like Japan where the average length of time a car is owned for is considerably lower (and in most cases the warranty covers the car during the period it is owned for). Thus most of the posts

So if you read the actual serious/mature/non-childish posts you will realize they are not telling people not to buy hybrids (or even an Aqua) but educating about:

1) the sensibility of buying a hybrid (or even a diesel or even a car) based on how often/much a person intends to use it.

2) potential long term costs and reasonably/validly point out how the savings you make buy purchasing and running a hybrid over a non-hybrid would reduce/lower over long term usage and that one does need to factor in these costs as well when purchasing a Hybrid (and not just the petrol cost and lower duty rates).

(i.e. there is nothing extra ordinarily cheap about a hybrid car what you do not pay for in some areas you will have to pay some in other areas)

Of course there are some who would perceive this as advise against buying hybrids as they $$$$$ signs when the posts are read. After all the main purpose of purchasing a Hybrid was to get a “cheap” car, spend less on petrol and servicing than they would on bread and water.

As for the Aqua…it is as comfortable as any other hatchback in its class and will get you from A to B in reasonable comfort. For me it is definitely not as comfortable as an Allion as the Allion’s extra weight provides much better stability and less road vibrations etc ….(but then that can be a matter of individual preference as well). What is to be disliked about the Aqua is that it is a boring box of metal to drive (just like the Allion, but then so are most Toyotas that come to SL…face it…99% of the Toyotas that make it to SL are simply not “fun to drive…EVER”…the nice ones simply do not fit in and appeal to the mindset of the average SL driver).I have also driven a G Sport version which comes with a sportier suspension setup. The G sport version has an interesting and a bit more sharper/stiffer handling feel to it but again the feedback to the driver is quite numb. So for people who actually enjoy driving there are quite a few other alternatives that are actually much more enjoyable to drive (both Hybrid and non-hybrids).

Hmm...yes I have a lot of time on my hands...stuck at home because of a stupid typhoon

[The Don]

iRage I think the value proposition only holds true if you run a lot of miles on a daily basis. You basically need to save over 400K over 4 years just to cover the cost of a battery replacement, and the initial deppreciation on hybrids are quite steep at the moment as well.

The deppreciation aspect will change over time as more and more hybrids come and people accept the maintenance and constant battery replacement as part of life.