Engine oil burning toyota corolla 141

[ruwan141]

Loku help ekak ona. Mage laga thiyenne corolla 141 2008 petrol ekak. eke engine oil burn wena issue ekak thiyanawa ahuwahama godak aya kiuwe engine eka replace karanna wei kiyala. brand new engine ekak 15 laks wage wenawa kiyala agent kiuwa. meka goda daganna puluwan widihak thiyada me welawe loku gaanak yata nokara. danata odo meter eka 167000 KM thiyanawa. man ganiddi 135000KM wage thibbe. man welawata service kara pena widihata kalin aya welawata service karala na wage kiyalai garage eken kiuwe danata 15W40 danne engine oil eka. engine eken noise ekak ekkama vibration ekakuth enawa kandak wage yanakota.

[Ruslan]

2 hours ago, ruwan141 said:

Loku help ekak ona. Mage laga thiyenne corolla 141 2008 petrol ekak. eke engine oil burn wena issue ekak thiyanawa ahuwahama godak aya kiuwe engine eka replace karanna wei kiyala. brand new engine ekak 15 laks wage wenawa kiyala agent kiuwa. meka goda daganna puluwan widihak thiyada me welawe loku gaanak yata nokara. danata odo meter eka 167000 KM thiyanawa. man ganiddi 135000KM wage thibbe. man welawata service kara pena widihata kalin aya welawata service karala na wage kiyalai garage eken kiuwe danata 15W40 danne engine oil eka. engine eken noise ekak ekkama vibration ekakuth enawa kandak wage yanakota.

Why would need to Replace an engine for Engine Oil burning?? after all you never know the condition of the replacement engine (If your replace it with a used engine). usual culprits would be Piston Rings (Usual tell tales are white / light blue smoke when you accelerate) Bad Valve stem seals (Smoking during Cold starts and accelerate after keep the engine idle for few minutes like 5-10Minutes. 90% of the time this would be the issue). these are pretty straight forward repair job which a competent mechanic can perform. you can refer below thread top to bottom for an idea on Overhauling an engine.

 

[ruwan141]

3 hours ago, Ruslan said:

Why would need to Replace an engine for Engine Oil burning?? after all you never know the condition of the replacement engine (If your replace it with a used engine). usual culprits would be Piston Rings (Usual tell tales are white / light blue smoke when you accelerate) Bad Valve stem seals (Smoking during Cold starts and accelerate after keep the engine idle for few minutes like 5-10Minutes. 90% of the time this would be the issue). these are pretty straight forward repair job which a competent mechanic can perform. you can refer below thread top to bottom for an idea on Overhauling an engine.

 

Thanks Ruslan, I will go through the thread

man normally car eke hadana garage eken kiuwa valve replace karala boaring karannath 1lak or 2 lak yawi kiyala. agent (TL) quote kala 7-9 laks athara gaanak yai kiyala. danata smoke ekak enne na car eken engine vibration ekka noise eka enawa witharai. pulling power eke aduwak danenneth na. 

Edited October 30, 2020 by ruwan141

[Rumesh88]

Agree with Ruslan's comments above. Just to clarify further, when you say you have a oil burning issue but there is no smoke, how do you know there is a oil burning issue? Does the oil level go down in between services? How much oil do you have to fill up? BTW did you get the OCV filter of your VVTi system and PCV valve either checked up or cleaned recently?

Edited October 30, 2020 by Rumesh88

[The Stig]

Did you do a compression test?
Do a compression test and check all 4 cylinders.

And are you sure that oil is not leaking from somewhere else? Are there any oil stains in your garage

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[ruwan141]

5 hours ago, Rumesh88 said:

Agree with Ruslan's comments above. Just to clarify further, when you say you have a oil burning issue but there is no smoke, how do you know there is a oil burning issue? Does the oil level go down in between services? How much oil do you have to fill up? BTW did you get the OCV filter of your VVTi system and PCV valve either checked up or cleaned recently?

Rumesh, I replaced spark plugs 5000 KMs ago when I mentioned about I have to re fill oil before service. mechanic check the plugs those are showing some brown oily color and he checked any oil leaks but no oil leaks at the moment. After that I inspect vehicle by agent (TL) they mentioned oil burning in their report. I didnt change OCV filter or PCV filter recently. Because of noise mechanic mentioned it should be oil sludge or oil leaks by piston rings or combustion chamber damaged due to piston rings and need to replace timing chain as well. 

Edited October 30, 2020 by ruwan141

[ruwan141]

2 hours ago, The Stig said:

Did you do a compression test?
Do a compression test and check all 4 cylinders.

And are you sure that oil is not leaking from somewhere else? Are there any oil stains in your garage

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Hi The Stig, I did compression test few months ago (not wet one) and report mentioned 2 cylinders are under compression  

[trinity]

10 hours ago, Rumesh88 said:

Agree with Ruslan's comments above. Just to clarify further, when you say you have a oil burning issue but there is no smoke, how do you know there is a oil burning issue? Does the oil level go down in between services? How much oil do you have to fill up? BTW did you get the OCV filter of your VVTi system and PCV valve either checked up or cleaned recently?

Glad to see you back here again. Was wondering what happened to you. 

[ruwan141]

Can someone recommend good place near Maharagama, Nugegoda Kottawa area to do compression test?

 

Edited October 31, 2020 by ruwan141

[Rumesh88]

5 hours ago, trinity said:

Glad to see you back here again. Was wondering what happened to you. 

I don't know exactly what happened to me trinity but it took me a long time to realize that my interest in automobiles has been on the sideline in the recent past. In fact I take more interest in the upkeep of my physique these days. My apologies to OP for going OT.

[Rumesh88]

12 hours ago, ruwan141 said:

Rumesh, I replaced spark plugs 5000 KMs ago when I mentioned about I have to re fill oil before service. mechanic check the plugs those are showing some brown oily color and he checked any oil leaks but no oil leaks at the moment. After that I inspect vehicle by agent (TL) they mentioned oil burning in their report. I didnt change OCV filter or PCV filter recently. Because of noise mechanic mentioned it should be oil sludge or oil leaks by piston rings or combustion chamber damaged due to piston rings and need to replace timing chain as well. 

Removing/inspecting/cleaning/replacing if necessary of OCV filter and PCV would not solve the bigger issue. But still worth giving it a try if your oil consumption is something like 1/2L between services. It is not  major issue.

[ruwan141]

20 minutes ago, Rumesh88 said:

Removing/inspecting/cleaning/replacing if necessary of OCV filter and PCV would not solve the bigger issue. But still worth giving it a try if your oil consumption is something like 1/2L between services. It is not  major issue.

Hi Rumesh,

Engine consume around 500ml - 600ml between services (I service my car between 4500KM and 5000KM). Also until mileage reach to at least 3000KM no oil burning observed. After 3000KM I can observe oil drop. I think I will ask from mechanic to do OCV filter and PCV filter cleanup and if necessary I can ask to replace them. I am only worrying about knocking sound when I can hear when climbing mountains (not constantly heard that sound only in lower gears) when I pump 95 Oct petrol it reduce but sometime I can hear that noise.

 

[Rumesh88]

1 hour ago, ruwan141 said:

Hi Rumesh,

Engine consume around 500ml - 600ml between services (I service my car between 4500KM and 5000KM). Also until mileage reach to at least 3000KM no oil burning observed. After 3000KM I can observe oil dro. I think I will ask from mechanic to do OCV filter and PCV filter cleanup and if necessary I can ask to replace them. I am only worrying about knocking sound when I can hear when climbing mountains (not constantly heard that sound only in lower gears) when I pump 95 Oct petrol it reduce but sometime I can hear that noise.

 

That much of oil consumption is not alarming. If you have a knocking it could be due to fuel starvation. Get the injector washers checked for cracks due to thermal stress. If so replace them. They do not cost much. BTW make sure the mechanic has proper tools to remove the OCV filter because in  most Toyota engines this particular hex-head is mutilated.

 

[ruwan141]

18 hours ago, Rumesh88 said:

That much of oil consumption is not alarming. If you have a knocking it could be due to fuel starvation. Get the injector washers checked for cracks due to thermal stress. If so replace them. They do not cost much. BTW make sure the mechanic has proper tools to remove the OCV filter because in  most Toyota engines this particular hex-head is mutilated.

 

I recently did EFI cleaning and replace plugs same time. They use chemical and run engine with that chemical. I heard that wont completely clean the injectors. is that true? 

Do you know any trusted place to do compression test (including wet)? 

[Rumesh88]

50 minutes ago, ruwan141 said:

I recently did EFI cleaning and replace plugs same time. They use chemical and run engine with that chemical. I heard that wont completely clean the injectors. is that true? 

Do you know any trusted place to do compression test (including wet)? 

You need to do an ultrasonic clean up and a test for the injectors for better results. Search the forum for keyword Asnu for the experience of those who have done it. Asnu is the brand name of a test rig for injector cleaning and testing but also there is a place in Battaramulla by the same name. 

I will send you a message with details of couple of places where you can get a compression test done. You will have to check with them for I haven't had any recent contacts with them.

[ruwan141]

13 hours ago, Rumesh88 said:

You need to do an ultrasonic clean up and a test for the injectors for better results. Search the forum for keyword Asnu for the experience of those who have done it. Asnu is the brand name of a test rig for injector cleaning and testing but also there is a place in Battaramulla by the same name. 

I will send you a message with details of couple of places where you can get a compression test done. You will have to check with them for I haven't had any recent contacts with them.

I think as you said car need better ultrasonic cleanup and test. Seems chemical didn't work at all. What would be the best way. Do I need to do injector cleanup and EFI tuning first and then do the compression test or other way round 

[Rumesh88]

3 hours ago, ruwan141 said:

I think as you said car need better ultrasonic cleanup and test. Seems chemical didn't work at all. What would be the best way. Do I need to do injector cleanup and EFI tuning first and then do the compression test or other way round 

Get the injectors cleaned and tested first because then you will know whether you would have to relace them if you decide to go for an overhaul.

[ruwan141]

On 11/2/2020 at 7:34 AM, Rumesh88 said:

Get the injectors cleaned and tested first because then you will know whether you would have to relace them if you decide to go for an overhaul.

Thanks Rumesh for your valuable I will perform ultrasonic cleanup first then perform compression test. I will comment my results in this thread. 

[MaleCortana]

Hi, don't replace the engine due to a engine oil burning issue, first check if there are any leaks (although you've suggested that 2 cylinders are under compression this could not be the case), since you've already replaced it with 15W40 there is no thicker oil you could use as well (There's one called Super something that is said to be thicker but I wouldn't put my money as I've never seen it)

 

Take the engine apart and just replace the parts that are worn not an entire engine, also it seems the engine oil isn't burning at an alarming rate as well.

 

[ruwan141]

Yesterday I did compression test from TL and readings are below. They performed both dry and wet compression tests. Agent mentioned results are not alarming but I have to do overhaul within 1 or 2 years. 

 

 

[prestige ict]

I am also facing same issue..  have you got any luck soo far?