Presidential Cars

[Devinda_Z]

its interesting to read through the list and see what leaders across the world use to get around or rather be chauffered around in...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1889

...i'll leave it upto you'll to figure out how well Sri Lanka would do if it were featured in this...

[Supra_Natural]

its interesting to read through the list and see what leaders across the world use to get around or rather be chauffered around in...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1889

...i'll leave it upto you'll to figure out how well Sri Lanka would do if it were featured in this...

Id agree with the choice of Silvio Berlusconi, the italians really know how to do things innit?

[Croozer]

interestin' link machang.

[oshad]

hmm wonder where our politicos wud stand around wit there vehicles hehehe

[Stingray]

interesting link indeed, i happened to watch a programme on national geographic where they showed details of how te US presidents are protected by the Secret Service, there are two identical cadillac limos for the president and like it says in the article the security features were not revealed.

has anyone here travelled in a bulletproof vehicle..? i have always wondered how it would be to drive one.

[miniace]

has anyone here travelled in a bulletproof vehicle..? i have always wondered how it would be to drive one.

You got one! what questions you have to ask mate?

MINIACE

[MasterDon]

Inside the Rocket-Proof Obamamobile

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New Presidential Limo Ready For Action Jan 20

* It can withstand rocket impacts and it's perfectly sealed against biochemical attacks.

• Petrol tank: Can withstand a direct hit thanks to a special foam and armor-plating.

• Bodywork: made of dual hardness steel, aluminum, titanium, and ceramics to "break up posible projectiles".

• Tyres: Kevlar-reinforced with steel rims underneath so it can run away no matter what.

• Accessories include: Night vision cameras, pump-action shotguns, tear gas cannons.

• Comes with bottles of blood compatible with the President's blood.

Edited January 11, 2009 by HelRazor

[JadeyBlitzen]

a few years back i saw on discovery channel that armoured cars are fitted with more powerful engines. but looking at the figures put out by obama's motor i'm starting to realise how the defenders are just as quick as any presidential merc s class we find here, on a really quick getaway.

if the ltte ever attempted a Charles de Gaulle style presidential assasination they wouldn't have to look very far to find some cars that could catch up with the escort. terrorist spec maruti anyone?

[Gummybr]

a few years back i saw on discovery channel that armoured cars are fitted with more powerful engines. but looking at the figures put out by obama's motor i'm starting to realise how the defenders are just as quick as any presidential merc s class we find here, on a really quick getaway.

if the ltte ever attempted a Charles de Gaulle style presidential assasination they wouldn't have to look very far to find some cars that could catch up with the escort. terrorist spec maruti anyone?

Well the Mercs here are really high powered... S600's. So are the Beemers highest spec. Also mind you when you do put the armour on those cars they do tune them up in the engine compartment as well as the suspension to withstand the weight.

Also mind you with newer technology they do not have to be very heavy, they would weigh in about 1T heavier than the normal vehicle compared to older vehicles which were pretty much heavier in around 2.5T

Yes the Defenders do keep up that is partly due to the drivers. Not many would drive Defenders at their topspeed like the PSD folks do.

[Devinda_Z]

Yes the Defenders do keep up that is partly due to the drivers. Not many would drive Defenders at their topspeed like the PSD folks do.

those blokes have balls of steel!

[maliths]

Yes the Defenders do keep up that is partly due to the drivers. Not many would drive Defenders at their topspeed like the PSD folks do.

Whats the top speed of the defenders that the PSD people use? they dont have a very high top speed do they?

[JadeyBlitzen]

Whats the top speed of the defenders that the PSD people use? they dont have a very high top speed do they?

it depends. most of them have the tdi engine (these organisations prefer the tdi over the td5) afaik these engines are on stock tune and the top speed is not limited unlike the new defender. people have driven them over 130 and the top speed is around 140. but i'm sure its a bit more faster

some of them are built by land rover special vehicles. if you manage to overtake one on an escort u might notice the special vehicles badge between the front door and the front wheel well (before you get shot at or pushed off the road that is). these usually come with the rover v8 and their top speed could be literally anything. well over 160 in most cases. most of them have bullet proof bodywork. there's quite a lot more options really. but they are state secrets

to give u taster, they are a lot more manouvarable than the standard defender. they can even do handbrake turns without falling over.

my earlier argument was bulletproof cars arent really quick as their more vulnerable counterparts cos obama's limo takes 15 secs to hit 60 and i was guessing with about 3 and a bit tonnes to lug around our s500s wouldnt be very spritely. i mean if they have that stock 300 something horses thats around 10secs to 60. but if they do have modded engines like u guys say im sure our bigshots can sleep more soundly at night.

[Supra_Natural]

it depends. most of them have the tdi engine (these organisations prefer the tdi over the td5) afaik these engines are on stock tune and the top speed is not limited unlike the new defender. people have driven them over 130 and the top speed is around 140. but i'm sure its a bit more faster

some of them are built by land rover special vehicles. if you manage to overtake one on an escort u might notice the special vehicles badge between the front door and the front wheel well (before you get shot at or pushed off the road that is). these usually come with the rover v8 and their top speed could be literally anything. well over 160 in most cases. most of them have bullet proof bodywork. there's quite a lot more options really. but they are state secrets

to give u taster, they are a lot more manouvarable than the standard defender. they can even do handbrake turns without falling over.

my earlier argument was bulletproof cars arent really quick as their more vulnerable counterparts cos obama's limo takes 15 secs to hit 60 and i was guessing with about 3 and a bit tonnes to lug around our s500s wouldnt be very spritely. i mean if they have that stock 300 something horses thats around 10secs to 60. but if they do have modded engines like u guys say im sure our bigshots can sleep more soundly at night.

I think your speed figures are more than a tad bit optimistic mate.... no defender, even with a V8 in it is capable of "Well over 160 Km/h"... has mostly to do with aerodynamic qualities roughly equivalent to a garden shed on stilts.

Devinda will probably be able to give specifics

[maliths]

I think your speed figures are more than a tad bit optimistic mate.... no defender, even with a V8 in it is capable of "Well over 160 Km/h"... has mostly to do with aerodynamic qualities roughly equivalent to a garden shed on stilts.

Devinda will probably be able to give specifics

Hmm I remember about 4-5 years ago I was coming behind a MP or ministers motorcade and they were only doing about 120 ish and I overtook them at about 140 it didnt seem like they could go any faster but I dunno about more modern Defenders these days. The Defender probably has the aerodynamic qualities close to that of a brick

[nira74]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/888245/mercedes_s_guard/

[JadeyBlitzen]

maliths u got balls mate! i've heard way too many horror stories about people overtaking escorts. but i'll tell u one thing. those guys in the escorts sure know how to make progress. last summer i was merely keeping up with an escort using their traffic clearing ability to get me home faster. there was a few defenders a few s class mercs and a montero and police lead car which i like to believe was driven at full throttle. anyways i had to drive well over 3000 rpm to keep up with them. and corner quite vigouresly.

anyways about the top speed of the defenders i was just stating my opinion. the 1st v8 series iii prototypes were capable of topspeeds of 92mph which is just shy of 150km/h. and this was with contemporary range rover engines. which had a power output of about 130bhp. though the production models were offered with a lowly 90bhp. well the top speed of the prototypes were probably helped by the fact they had the gearing from a range rover. and im not suggesting the defender is more aerodynamic than the stage 1 v8s. but if my sources are right, there are government owned defenders upto 5.0 in capacity. surely they would be producing a lot more than a measerly 130bhp. so they could definitely crack the ton. if not a little bit more

[Devinda_Z]

anyways about the top speed of the defenders i was just stating my opinion. the 1st v8 series iii prototypes were capable of topspeeds of 92mph which is just shy of 150km/h. and this was with contemporary range rover engines. which had a power output of about 130bhp. though the production models were offered with a lowly 90bhp. well the top speed of the prototypes were probably helped by the fact they had the gearing from a range rover. and im not suggesting the defender is more aerodynamic than the stage 1 v8s. but if my sources are right, there are government owned defenders upto 5.0 in capacity. surely they would be producing a lot more than a measerly 130bhp. so they could definitely crack the ton. if not a little bit more

how sure are you of the capacity?

[Gummybr]

it depends. most of them have the tdi engine (these organisations prefer the tdi over the td5) afaik these engines are on stock tune and the top speed is not limited unlike the new defender. people have driven them over 130 and the top speed is around 140. but i'm sure its a bit more faster

some of them are built by land rover special vehicles. if you manage to overtake one on an escort u might notice the special vehicles badge between the front door and the front wheel well (before you get shot at or pushed off the road that is). these usually come with the rover v8 and their top speed could be literally anything. well over 160 in most cases. most of them have bullet proof bodywork. there's quite a lot more options really. but they are state secrets

to give u taster, they are a lot more manouvarable than the standard defender. they can even do handbrake turns without falling over.

my earlier argument was bulletproof cars arent really quick as their more vulnerable counterparts cos obama's limo takes 15 secs to hit 60 and i was guessing with about 3 and a bit tonnes to lug around our s500s wouldnt be very spritely. i mean if they have that stock 300 something horses thats around 10secs to 60. but if they do have modded engines like u guys say im sure our bigshots can sleep more soundly at night.

The 300Tdi stock speed would be around 140kmph. But most of these carry the mods where they advance the fuel at 5000kms. In that guise they would be quite quick dont know how much but they are quick off the line and higher top end.

We dont get the special vehicles down here in SL unless someone would've put a sticker on. Front and rear anti roll bars coupled with mod done on steering helps them to achieve that cornering ability. There are stories of them takinbg the Liberty roundabout on two wheels so you know what sorta people they are to drive them like that.

They have only a handful of V8 Defender's.

Are you sure on the facts? S600 is quite quick mind you with a 517hp V12 with a 0-60 time of 4.6 secs. Ad another 2-3 secs to that for the additional 1T.

Even the old BMW's came with the V12 engines. Driven the armoured RR and I can tell you that its quicker than your normal car even with the added weight.

[Devinda_Z]

The 300Tdi stock speed would be around 140kmph. But most of these carry the mods where they advance the fuel at 5000kms. In that guise they would be quite quick dont know how much but they are quick off the line and higher top end.

yeah that seems about right - seen meter reading close to that...

but i didn't quite get the bit about the fuel.. did u mean revs?

[Gummybr]

yeah that seems about right - seen meter reading close to that...

but i didn't quite get the bit about the fuel.. did u mean revs?

Advancing the diesel pump... (sum do it by ear and sum do it with a technical knowledge - but so far by ear tuning has been better)

[Devinda_Z]

We dont get the special vehicles down here in SL unless someone would've put a sticker on. Front and rear anti roll bars coupled with mod done on steering helps them to achieve that cornering ability. There are stories of them takinbg the Liberty roundabout on two wheels so you know what sorta people they are to drive them like that.

They have only a handful of V8 Defender's.

There are few original SV's Gummy - i've seen some used by some of the NGO's..

But our local LR technicians are quite good at slapping on "Special Vehicle" stickers on just about anything they fettle..

The Original SV is badge mounted on a rubber/plastic base if i'm not mistaken - noticably thicker than any ole sticker.

Aside from the few used by the PSD , i don't think the forces use any Petrol Defenders - well at least i haven't come across too many

[JadeyBlitzen]

how sure are you of the capacity?

i'm quite sure about that for 2 reasons. the vehicle in question carries a whole load of options that a civillian defender doesnt. and the rover v8 can be bored out well over 5.0l. i've seen 5.2s. i'll reconfirm it the next time im in sl.

The 300Tdi stock speed would be around 140kmph. But most of these carry the mods where they advance the fuel at 5000kms. In that guise they would be quite quick dont know how much but they are quick off the line and higher top end.

We dont get the special vehicles down here in SL unless someone would've put a sticker on. Front and rear anti roll bars coupled with mod done on steering helps them to achieve that cornering ability. There are stories of them takinbg the Liberty roundabout on two wheels so you know what sorta people they are to drive them like that.

They have only a handful of V8 Defender's.

Are you sure on the facts? S600 is quite quick mind you with a 517hp V12 with a 0-60 time of 4.6 secs. Ad another 2-3 secs to that for the additional 1T.

Even the old BMW's came with the V12 engines. Driven the armoured RR and I can tell you that its quicker than your normal car even with the added weight.

i've never quite bothered to figure out what sort of mechanical top speed the 300Tdi's got. perhaps devinda could calculate it for us. personally i dont agree with factory claimed top speeds on day to day cars. the actual top speeds are always higher. for instance the 300tdi has a factory top speed of 128. but im right there with gummybr on the top speed he claims. and i'm guessing its mechanical top speed is its actual top speed.

i've seen quite a lot of stickered up special vehicles. but i have actually seen the real deal. the first one i saw owned by osanda. it was a 130 modified to treat wild animals or something here's the link for that http://www.bornfree.org.uk/who-we-work-wit...hip/land-rover/

the second one was a presidential security defender. i was lucky enough to get close to it as it wasnt on duty. i noticed the badge has turned black. possibly cos its been in use for quite a long time. i couldnt hear the engine not at that time but it could possibly be a v8.

most people wouldnt believe it. but sri lanka is a proper meccha for defenders. we have cars that other nations havent even dreamt of. i hope you guys are with me on the fact that we have a quite a few armoured defenders. the most notable one i've seen upto now was a five door with no windows and only gun ports to shoot out of. probably the biggest reason we are unaware of their existance is because they are state secrets. i mean if you want the world to know your car is bullet proof you might as well turn up in a tank. i think someone with links to the military or the secret service should come and shed some more light on these facts. however the v8 are not that rare. if you look hard enough u can find one.

as for the armoured s class i was referring to the w140. the engine i mentioned was the one from the s500. i just checked wiki and it says the power output is 315hp. so if the car weighs around 3 tonnes its got a power to weight ratio similar to that of a corolla. so we are probably looking at a 0-60 time of around 9-10 secs.

the armoured cars we get in sl are "standard" production armoured cars with up to the b6 level of protection. they are not one offs like obama's car. so as you guys say they could probably have bigger or uprated engines, despite the smaller badge. the reason for my whole argument is when he's got such an extensively modified car why not get a bigger engine to haul that weight around really fast. now im starting to think if that was to fool the baddies. maybe the car does have quite a lot of power.

[JadeyBlitzen]

There are few original SV's Gummy - i've seen some used by some of the NGO's..

But our local LR technicians are quite good at slapping on "Special Vehicle" stickers on just about anything they fettle..

The Original SV is badge mounted on a rubber/plastic base if i'm not mistaken - noticably thicker than any ole sticker.

Aside from the few used by the PSD , i don't think the forces use any Petrol Defenders - well at least i haven't come across too many

i've seen a 20- military/police defender running on the kandy road many times. thought it was a v8 at first but now i think its either a 2.25 or a 2.5

[Gummybr]

i'm quite sure about that for 2 reasons. the vehicle in question carries a whole load of options that a civillian defender doesnt. and the rover v8 can be bored out well over 5.0l. i've seen 5.2s. i'll reconfirm it the next time im in sl.

i've never quite bothered to figure out what sort of mechanical top speed the 300Tdi's got. perhaps devinda could calculate it for us. personally i dont agree with factory claimed top speeds on day to day cars. the actual top speeds are always higher. for instance the 300tdi has a factory top speed of 128. but im right there with gummybr on the top speed he claims. and i'm guessing its mechanical top speed is its actual top speed.

i've seen quite a lot of stickered up special vehicles. but i have actually seen the real deal. the first one i saw owned by osanda. it was a 130 modified to treat wild animals or something here's the link for that http://www.bornfree.org.uk/who-we-work-wit...hip/land-rover/

the second one was a presidential security defender. i was lucky enough to get close to it as it wasnt on duty. i noticed the badge has turned black. possibly cos its been in use for quite a long time. i couldnt hear the engine not at that time but it could possibly be a v8.

most people wouldnt believe it. but sri lanka is a proper meccha for defenders. we have cars that other nations havent even dreamt of. i hope you guys are with me on the fact that we have a quite a few armoured defenders. the most notable one i've seen upto now was a five door with no windows and only gun ports to shoot out of. probably the biggest reason we are unaware of their existance is because they are state secrets. i mean if you want the world to know your car is bullet proof you might as well turn up in a tank. i think someone with links to the military or the secret service should come and shed some more light on these facts. however the v8 are not that rare. if you look hard enough u can find one.

as for the armoured s class i was referring to the w140. the engine i mentioned was the one from the s500. i just checked wiki and it says the power output is 315hp. so if the car weighs around 3 tonnes its got a power to weight ratio similar to that of a corolla. so we are probably looking at a 0-60 time of around 9-10 secs.

the armoured cars we get in sl are "standard" production armoured cars with up to the b6 level of protection. they are not one offs like obama's car. so as you guys say they could probably have bigger or uprated engines, despite the smaller badge. the reason for my whole argument is when he's got such an extensively modified car why not get a bigger engine to haul that weight around really fast. now im starting to think if that was to fool the baddies. maybe the car does have quite a lot of power.

Well I dont want to comment on the vehicles using the SV badges. Yes the Born Free Defender was a SV built specially for that purpose.. but not any other vehicle as claimed by the owners, devinda will agree with me on this.

The armoured Defenders you saw with gun ports were done by mechanical engineering division of the SLA, not factory built. Also there are some softops with armour plating. There are infact 5 armoured Defenders in existance (proper ones).

Also mind you all armoured vehicles procured by the Govt recently were specially built by world reknown companies. The Merc S600 is B7 spec.. (capable of withstanding armour piercing rounds). Maybe someone like MINIACE can clarify.

On the V8 issues dont think I can agree with you. I know of only two vehicles bought B/New with the V8 engine and there are some 19- or 18- Defenders running but some have been converted. There can be many transplanted ones around which no one will be able to trace with the registration numbers. Its the 3.9l V8 that were on them if I'm not mistaken (which came on the RR Classic).

BTW our politicos have gone for newer vehicles leaving the older ones, now they travel in BMW 7's, S600's.... Also there are the XC90's, RR's, X5's, Defender's and Ford's I know of

[maliths]

BTW our politicos have gone for newer vehicles leaving the older ones, now they travel in BMW 7's, S600's.... Also there are the XC90's, RR's, X5's, Defender's and Ford's I know of

RR's?? really? what models are they? Also does anyone know what happens to all these old armoured vehicles when the politico buy new ones? do they just sit in some government yard?