Carburetor Engine Turbocharging

[Ricer]

HI guys,

Just wanted to know whether a carburetor setup engine can be turbocharged? If so, how can it be done? Is it more complex than turbocharging an electronically fuel injected one?

thanks

[The Don]

HI guys,

Just wanted to know whether a carburetor setup engine can be turbocharged? If so, how can it be done? Is it more complex than turbocharging an electronically fuel injected one?

thanks

Can be done, has been done but is a little more complicated than turbo charging a EFI engine. Main issue is matching fuel supply with boost, which is easier when its electronically controlled than dependent on a mechanical mechanish. Of course you could implement an electronically controlled carb, or a car which operates at two levels like the Weber DGEV which opens up a second butterfly to increase air intage and power when the accelorator is pushed down further. The issue is getting an even power curve though .....

[Ricer]

Can be done, has been done but is a little more complicated than turbo charging a EFI engine. Main issue is matching fuel supply with boost, which is easier when its electronically controlled than dependent on a mechanical mechanish. Of course you could implement an electronically controlled carb, or a car which operates at two levels like the Weber DGEV which opens up a second butterfly to increase air intage and power when the accelorator is pushed down further. The issue is getting an even power curve though .....

Can we source the parts easily? Or is it more economical and worthwhile transplanting an EFI engine?

[The Don]

Can we source the parts easily? Or is it more economical and worthwhile transplanting an EFI engine?

Probably more economical to get a turbo engine rather than trying to upgrade an existing engine. What car are you thinking of and what engine does it currently have?

[Ricer]

I'm just weighing my options for a project car... Seems like my earlier plan is not going to work out

[The Don]

I'm just weighing my options for a project car... Seems like my earlier plan is not going to work out

It will only work reliably if somebody has come up with a "kit" of sorts, because to fabricate from scratch requires a specialise and while those specialists exist in Sri Lanka their charges are considerable. You should speak to some of those chaps if interested though they might talk you into installing a efi setup and custom ecu with a turbo.

[Dinukap4]

I tried and gave up on a Toyota 3A its just too much work better off getting a weber carb and then again they cost a lot With the money you spend you can get a complete EFI Turbo engine with a few couple off thousand bucks

[Ricer]

So transplanting a whole new engine would be the better option right?

[Hoonigan]

what's the car you're looking at?

[Ricer]

what's the car you're looking at?

Still searching for a good model. Any suggestions? A 2-door car would be perfect

Edited November 11, 2014 by Ricer

[Supra_Natural]

Still searching for a good model. Any suggestions? A 2-door car would be perfect

Sort of putting the cart before the horse aren't you? First figure out the car, buy it and then start thinking about messing with it. What's your budget like? If you give us an idea we can help you figure something out.

[Hoonigan]

That depends on your preference and thinking about how to turbocharge it even before settling for a specific model is premature don't you think. But if you feel strongly about a turbo, you can factor that in when you buy the car. As in, decide on a car that had a turbo variant in it's line-up which would make things easier to swap parts or a whole engine. For example, if you buy a car with a SR20DE, it would be relatively easier to swap the turbo related parts from a SR20DET or the whole engine.

[VVTi]

Why don't you just a buy a carb car, get a Turbo sticker and put a turbo whistle and a fake BoV... and a small hood scoop

[Ricer]

Sort of putting the cart before the horse aren't you? First figure out the car, buy it and then start thinking about messing with it. What's your budget like? If you give us an idea we can help you figure something out.

Budget right now is 200k tops but if i wait for the other vehicle to be sold, it could could go upto 2mn. Was expecting a better sales price but seems like it wont be happening. Plus seems like it wont be sold for quite some time. That's why I'm looking for something in the 200k range. Something which has the potential of good performance.

That depends on your preference and thinking about how to turbocharge it even before settling for a specific model is premature don't you think. But if you feel strongly about a turbo, you can factor that in when you buy the car. As in, decide on a car that had a turbo variant in it's line-up which would make things easier to swap parts or a whole engine. For example, if you buy a car with a SR20DE, it would be relatively easier to swap the turbo related parts from a SR20DET or the whole engine.

Yes but did carb engines have turbocharging stock?

[VVTi]

Can a carb engine be charged? Yes.

Can it be done here? Debatable. WEPR/Sacha will turbo anything that has an EFI, for a price.

But are you willing to throw money at a problem that can be easily solved by getting a turbo car for the 200000/2Million budget you claim to have? Plenty of Evos and WRXs around that are going begging these days.

See, unless you put stickers, fake Brembo calipers and hood scoops on and have a happy feeling on your butt dyno, true performance mods require serious money.

Going by the few posts you have made, you seem to be someone who is a Budget Mod person who wants a turbo purely for the bragging right it seems to come with, I could be wrong.

My advise, should you wish to take it is, buy a car that already came with a turbo. Or if you are on a tight budget, get one of those early Mitsi Fiore Turbos if you can find one in good condition and use that as a starting point.

Or buy a carb car, throw out the engine, and drop in a SR20DET or a VQ30DET. Can be done just under 500K all up, if you get a competent mechanic.

But then don't create another thread and complain that you are not getting your neighbors Allion levels of KMPLs.

[Ricer]

Can a carb engine be charged? Yes.

Can it be done here? Debatable. WEPR/Sacha will turbo anything that has an EFI, for a price.

But are you willing to throw money at a problem that can be easily solved by getting a turbo car for the 200000/2Million budget you claim to have? Plenty of Evos and WRXs around that are going begging these days.

See, unless you put stickers, fake Brembo calipers and hood scoops on and have a happy feeling on your butt dyno, true performance mods require serious money.

Going by the few posts you have made, you seem to be someone who is a Budget Mod person who wants a turbo purely for the bragging right it seems to come with, I could be wrong.

My advise, should you wish to take it is, buy a car that already came with a turbo. Or if you are on a tight budget, get one of those early Mitsi Fiore Turbos if you can find one in good condition and use that as a starting point.

Or buy a carb car, throw out the engine, and drop in a SR20DET or a VQ30DET. Can be done just under 500K all up, if you get a competent mechanic.

But then don't create another thread and complain that you are not getting your neighbors Allion levels of KMPLs.

Since you are eager to know let me tell you about myself.

I'm a 20-year old student with no income at all and I'm living off my parents money. So I don't have the luxury to "throw" money at the things I want. I will have to be satisfied with whatever my father buys me and mind you he's NOT the president of Sri Lanka.

What I need a turbo is purely for the thrill of it. To go fast that's it. I don't participate in the drags and I don't street race on Saturday nights but I would love to do both of those things. I don't see how my mindset is much different from others in this forum.

Maybe you are a not a brat like me but a true driver. But I don't see your "mighty" Subaru Forester taking part in the drags as well. Isn't it "turbocharged". Or haven't you spent "serious money" on it?.

All I need performance is for the pure thrill of it.

Hope this answered all of your questions.

You could be helpful and share your knowledge or be a judgemental prick. Whatever helps you to sleep easier at night

[iRage]

You are talking about turbo charging to go fast...you do realize that you need to invest in an upgraded suspension setup and at the very least a brake system upgrade (unless of course you are the suicidal death wish kind of guy...).

I can appreciate your desire for speed; but also consider that fact that if you are living in a place like Colombo the places for you to go "speeding" are quite limited without being a public safety threat and nuisance. If you want driving "pleasure" there are quite a few other ways to get it without building yourself a death trap at a pretty penny.

[Ricer]

You are talking about turbo charging to go fast...you do realize that you need to invest in an upgraded suspension setup and at the very least a brake system upgrade (unless of course you are the suicidal death wish kind of guy...).

I can appreciate your desire for speed; but also consider that fact that if you are living in a place like Colombo the places for you to go "speeding" are quite limited without being a public safety threat and nuisance. If you want driving "pleasure" there are quite a few other ways to get it without building yourself a death trap at a pretty penny.

Yes I'm aware that I need to stop eventually... I was talking exclusively on the topic of turbocharging

[VVTi]

Since you are eager to know let me tell you about myself.

I'm a 20-year old student with no income at all and I'm living off my parents money. So I don't have the luxury to "throw" money at the things I want. I will have to be satisfied with whatever my father buys me and mind you he's NOT the president of Sri Lanka.

What I need a turbo is purely for the thrill of it. To go fast that's it. I don't participate in the drags and I don't street race on Saturday nights but I would love to do both of those things. I don't see how my mindset is much different from others in this forum.

Maybe you are a not a brat like me but a true driver. But I don't see your "mighty" Subaru Forester taking part in the drags as well. Isn't it "turbocharged". Or haven't you spent "serious money" on it?.

All I need performance is for the pure thrill of it.

Hope this answered all of your questions.

You could be helpful and share your knowledge or be a judgemental prick. Whatever helps you to sleep easier at night

I did help you, I did tell you t o get a Mitsi Fiore, or talk to Sacha...

My post to you had enough answers to your questions, written in plain English that even a retarded dyslexic monkey could have understood easily.

But expecting a 20 year old to understand plain English is getting harder these days...

BTW, modding a car and running the drags or risking public and your safety on Saturday nights is like getting an erection and walking around looking to f**k someone of something. If you know your dick gets hard, and you have a place to sink it whenever the need arises, then there is no need to whip it out all the time, right?

But then, you are 20, I don't expect you to understand....

First get a job, earn some money and sink it to your fantasies without wasting your father's money.

Be a man first.

Sound to me like you are still in your pampers and sucking on a rubber teat. .

Edited November 15, 2014 by VVTi

[iRage]

Yes I'm aware that I need to stop eventually... I was talking exclusively on the topic of turbocharging

Well the point is...since you haven't even bought (or maybe not even got your mind set on) a particular model/car;you should consider how much you are going to have to spend for EVERYTHING as a whole; wait till you have access to the rest of your funds. Since it seems like you might have to wait for the rest of your funds till you can spend on the upgrades you might be better off holding on to that 200K for now rather than spending it on buying a car right now for the sake of buying a car right now. Right now you just seem like a kid grasping on straws and trying to build a house roof first. Be patient wait for the money and buy a decent base car. Just for curiosity...how mechanically/technically inclined are you ?

[MasterDon]

You don't really need to turbocharge a car for it to go faster.Sometimes a properly sorted NA with a few mods is faster than an equvalent turbo car...All that godawful lag put me off turbos for good.I'd take a high revving,variable valved NA any day.

For carbed cars,I've heard Supercharging is better than Turbocharging.Don't ask me why though cos I don't know...I'm waiting for my Weber + Supercharger kit to arrive for a 2 litre twin carb.It's a bolt on one for that particular car.But custom making one in SL one can be messy and expensive.Better go for an EFI car as others said.

And just to echo what VVti said.Real petrolheads don't race on the streets.The posers who do have lost family members and are facing jail time plus a life time of regret. ...If you really wanna show off your skills come on a track day with us or join a club or contact AndrewGTR and enter the official drags.

[Hoonigan]

If going fast is the idea, may I suggest buying a decent bike? You can find one that will keep you happy until you can afford to invest in a good car or a project that you can see through properly. Like others have mentioned, it isn't cheap to Do what you plan to do. Just a thought.

[VVTi]

May I suggest a PS or an Xbox with a whole slew of games such as GranTurismo or NFS?

Ideal for small kids still trying to get their training wheels...

[Watchman]

Maybe you are a not a brat like me but a true driver. But I don't see your "mighty" Subaru Forester taking part in the drags as well. Isn't it "turbocharged". Or haven't you spent "serious money" on it?.

All I need performance is for the pure thrill of it.

So it's ok for YOU to get a turbo-charged car and use it for the "pure thrill", but if VVTi, buys it he has to prove himself by racing it?

[Ricer]

Well the point is...since you haven't even bought (or maybe not even got your mind set on) a particular model/car;you should consider how much you are going to have to spend for EVERYTHING as a whole; wait till you have access to the rest of your funds. Since it seems like you might have to wait for the rest of your funds till you can spend on the upgrades you might be better off holding on to that 200K for now rather than spending it on buying a car right now for the sake of buying a car right now. Right now you just seem like a kid grasping on straws and trying to build a house roof first. Be patient wait for the money and buy a decent base car. Just for curiosity...how mechanically/technically inclined are you ?

I don't have a vast knowledge on automobile engineering like most of the people here. That's why I would ike to have opinions of experts.

[Ricer]

You don't really need to turbocharge a car for it to go faster.Sometimes a properly sorted NA with a few mods is faster than an equvalent turbo car...All that godawful lag put me off turbos for good.I'd take a high revving,variable valved NA any day.

For carbed cars,I've heard Supercharging is better than Turbocharging.Don't ask me why though cos I don't know...I'm waiting for my Weber + Supercharger kit to arrive for a 2 litre twin carb.It's a bolt on one for that particular car.But custom making one in SL one can be messy and expensive.Better go for an EFI car as others said.

And just to echo what VVti said.Real petrolheads don't race on the streets.The posers who do have lost family members and are facing jail time plus a life time of regret. ...If you really wanna show off your skills come on a track day with us or join a club or contact AndrewGTR and enter the official drags.

You are doing a datsun 510 project aren't you? What's the engine in it? 2-litre?

Btw, the saturday night street racing scene is becoming popular don't you think? There are many participating in that. I'm not justifying that and I know that it is dangerous. But there are people who can't participate in the official drags and some who can't wait for the drags to happen AND some who think it's a waste of time and effort since a certain "son" is racing in almost every category. I might be wasting my father's money but go figure whose money that bugger is wasting

If going fast is the idea, may I suggest buying a decent bike? You can find one that will keep you happy until you can afford to invest in a good car or a project that you can see through properly. Like others have mentioned, it isn't cheap to Do what you plan to do. Just a thought.

Yeah bro... That's a good idea but I don't have a bike license since my mother is traumatized from the thought of me riding bikes