Auto And Tip Tronic

ThunderBolt · January 27, 2015

Is it good thing to put to neutral gear while driving a auto ? what effect does it have on putting to neutral in traffic ?

Watchman · January 27, 2015

Question is WHY would you want to shift to N while the vehicle is moving?

If the vehicle is stationary, yes it's a slightly lesser strain on the engine, but doesn't make sense if you have to switch between D/N every few seconds in stop/go traffic.

GayanR · January 27, 2015

While driving it's not a good habit you'll lose engine breaking+some transmissions doesn't circulate fluid unless it's in gear so avoid doing so completely.when in traffic don't make it a habit for every stop and go.It will cause unnecessary wear on parts.Just put it into neutral if the wait is more than 2 minutes and you are tired keep pressing the break.Even if you are in neutral it's not going to save considerable gas.just a small strain on the engine.So do it only when necessary.

VVTi · January 27, 2015

I pity those who in a few more years' time, end up buying these cars...

Watchman · January 27, 2015

On 1/27/2015 at 5:52 AM, VVTi said:
I pity those who in a few more years' time, end up buying these cars...

heheha and the funny thing is the OP has no question or remark on tip-tronic which he mentioned in the topic.

The Don · January 27, 2015

The question and the topic are not related in anyway. Can the op please suggest a better title for the thread please?

Also I think shifting to N while in stationary traffic is unsafe, as you might have to react quickly to something that happens around you.

I of course think the above is different to when you are waiting at lights or at a railway crossing as you get ample warning when the traffic is about to move again and can react accordingly.

VVTi · January 27, 2015

This redefines thel hingannaness. Lol. What a bunch of retarded wankers we have now sharing the roads.

bycap · January 27, 2015

what is the purpose ? do you put the car in N and take the leg off from the break ? ( you might wanna pull the hand break)

ThunderBolt · January 27, 2015

I had a manual before and this is my first auto gear car. for those who think its bad please read this

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/repair/if-you-shift-an-automatic-while-driving-will-you-damage-your-engine-11413677

bycap · January 28, 2015

ha ha.. you can find anything from the internet mate. when I searched I read couple of articles where they claimed shifting while moving is a bad thing and they had their points too.

I drive a manual too. but when I drive an auto and have to stop at traffic with a countdown, I put the gear to P. then pull the hand break and stay at ease. if its slowly moving traffic I just use the break.

Magnum · January 28, 2015

When im waiting at traffic lights I shift to neutral and use the parking break

VVTi · January 28, 2015

On 1/28/2015 at 4:05 AM, Magnum said:
When im waiting at traffic lights I shift to neutral and use the parking break

Switch off the engine while you are at it too...

Watchman · January 28, 2015

On 1/27/2015 at 4:47 PM, ThunderBolt said:
I had a manual before and this is my first auto gear car. for those who think its bad please read this
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/repair/if-you-shift-an-automatic-while-driving-will-you-damage-your-engine-11413677

That article addresses exceptional scenarios that you'll nearly never face, and NOT regular driving. And the way it has been written and the instructions given indicate that it's written for someone who barely has the IQ to ride a bicycle let alone drive a car.

And look, you came here to ask a question right? instead of trying to comprehend the answer given why are you trying to change people's answer to suit YOUR beleif?

Don't be a askhole!

ThunderBolt · January 28, 2015

Exactly I dont want to change anyone. but clearly dont like the way the VVTi guy has responded "I pity those who in a few more years' time, end up buying these cars.". i wanted to post the question to see how others use auto gears and change if Im making any mistake.

clearly dont have any idea to sell a crap vehicle to another user. people can laugh at anyone thinking they know it all. intention of this was to fix if Im doing it wrong. over to "Watchman" as well.

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Edited January 28, 2015 by ThunderBolt

VVTi · January 28, 2015

On 1/28/2015 at 7:42 AM, ThunderBolt said:
Exactly I dont want to change anyone. but clearly dont like the way the VVTi guy has responded "I pity those who in a few more years' time, end up buying these cars.". i wanted to post the question to see how others use auto gears and change if Im making any mistake.
clearly dont have any idea to sell a crap vehicle to another user. people can laugh at anyone thinking they know it all. intention of this was to fix if Im doing it wrong. over to "Watchman" as well.

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Awww... poor baby didnt like the way I responded??? Pookie wants a bulto?

Its true... buggers like you destroy a perfectly working car to save a few rupees, then when the time comes to sell, you fool the poor unsuspecting buyer and sell him a damaged car. You are a typical thel hinganna... would sell your own mother if you can squeeze out a few more Kms per liter.

Buy a bloody push bike machang and free wheel when you are tired.

Besides, if you already agree with what is on that article, why the f**k did you waste time opening a thread??

VVTi · January 28, 2015

BTW, since you are too much of an idiot to drive an Auto, here is how the rest of the world drive an Auto.... if you like I can attach a YouTube video also...

Quote
http://www.wikihow.com/Drive-a-Car-With-an-Automatic-Transmission

Let me see if I can find a tutorial on how to take a dump... since you want to know how the rest of the world might be doing that too and if you're doing it right.

The Don · January 28, 2015

On 1/28/2015 at 4:49 AM, VVTi said:
Switch off the engine while you are at it too...

Machang, stop start is standard equipment in most modern cars

VVTi · January 28, 2015

On 1/28/2015 at 10:28 AM, The Don said:
Machang, stop start is standard equipment in most modern cars

If it is equipped... Yes... such as most of the hybrids.

Not debating the functionality of the technology

But it will be rather lame to emulate Hybrid levels of functionality in your daily pedal pusher, right?

We are talking about the garden variety Tranny here.

The Don · January 28, 2015

On 1/28/2015 at 10:32 AM, VVTi said:
If it is equipped... Yes... such as most of the hybrids.
Not debating the functionality of the technology

But it will be rather lame to emulate Hybrid levels of functionality in your daily pedal pusher, right?

We are talking about the garden variety Tranny here.

Yes bung, but there is no harm turning the engine off at lights or at a railway crossing. Most of us don't do it for convenience, and because we want to keep the AC on etc. On a real world test conducted by Fifth Gear, stop start seemed to deliver about a 20% fuel saving in city driving conditions. Thats more than any other gadget, fuel additive etc can deliver.

So personally I think you have given some good advice

VVTi · January 28, 2015

Ado, how often will you be stopping at a railway crossing? Really??? LOL.

If you emulate Start- Stop in standard card in Colombo levels of traffic, you are looking at a very tired battery and a worn Starter motor in a very short time..

My advise is to the OP or any other monkey who wants to save gas but don't have the finances to purchase the required tech included vehicles, drive the car you have sensibly, keep tires inflated to correct pressures, keep filters clean, keep engine in tip top shape, change fluids according to schedule, plan your journeys, reduce unnecessary weight in the car.

You can do so many little things that are more effective rather than being total whack job retard and throw the the car in to neutral whenever there is traffic.

Edited January 28, 2015 by VVTi

Schiffer · January 28, 2015

I will tell you one example on WHY YOU SHOULD NOT DO THAT

This was when i started officially driving and got my hands on a auto car.

When i drive a manual vehicle i used to put it to Neutral when driving downhills that arnt too steap

one day i did the same on a auto, i shifted the gear to Neutral and was cruising down very slowly and the engine missfired and cut off.

When the engine cut off, the servo stops working so braking gets weaker it takes longer to come to an halt.

It is unlikely to stall the car while on the Drive gear. so yes. Lesson learned and No You should not do that.

trinity · January 28, 2015

On 1/28/2015 at 10:50 AM, VVTi said:
Ado, how often will you be stopping at a railway crossing? Really??? LOL.
If you emulate Start- Stop in standard card in Colombo levels of traffic, you are looking at a very tired battery and a worn Starter motor in a very short time..

My advise is to the OP or any other monkey who wants to save gas but don't have the finances to purchase the required tech included vehicles, drive the car you have sensibly, keep tires inflated to correct pressures, keep filters clean, keep engine in tip top shape, change fluids according to schedule, plan your journeys, reduce unnecessary weight in the car.

You can do so many little things that are more effective rather than being total whack job retard and throw the the car in to neutral whenever there is traffic.

Machang, have a big request, will you be able to share the story of the Alfa among us the AutoLankans. I'm sure it would be an interesting as well as an educating topic for many of us....

OP - Sorry for going OT,, oh wait,

even your very first post is OT! Damn!!

The Don · January 28, 2015

On 1/28/2015 at 10:50 AM, VVTi said:
Ado, how often will you be stopping at a railway crossing? Really??? LOL.
If you emulate Start- Stop in standard card in Colombo levels of traffic, you are looking at a very tired battery and a worn Starter motor in a very short time..

My advise is to the OP or any other monkey who wants to save gas but don't have the finances to purchase the required tech included vehicles, drive the car you have sensibly, keep tires inflated to correct pressures, keep filters clean, keep engine in tip top shape, change fluids according to schedule, plan your journeys, reduce unnecessary weight in the car.

You can do so many little things that are more effective rather than being total whack job retard and throw the the car in to neutral whenever there is traffic.

Yako, where you live, this is probably not likely, but where I live its a fairly regular occurence, where I get stuck either at Kattiya junction, Old Kesbewa Road, Stanley Tilekaratne Mawatha, and if I escape all of these in Narahenpita Before we had a car with AC, what we did was turn the car off, pull the hand break and wait

That of course does not take anything away from any of the other good advice you have given above.

The Don · January 28, 2015

On 1/28/2015 at 11:16 AM, Schiffer said:
I will tell you one example on WHY YOU SHOULD NOT DO THAT
This was when i started officially driving and got my hands on a auto car.

When i drive a manual vehicle i used to put it to Neutral when driving downhills that arnt too steap

one day i did the same on a auto, i shifted the gear to Neutral and was cruising down very slowly and the engine missfired and cut off.

When the engine cut off, the servo stops working so braking gets weaker it takes longer to come to an halt.

It is unlikely to stall the car while on the Drive gear. so yes. Lesson learned and No You should not do that.

Well putting a car into neutral is very dangerous when going down a hill. You are actually advised not to disengage the gears while the car is moving period. As the driving instructors describe it, doing so means you will not have complete control of the car, as the drive itself provides some of the traction, and allows you to navigate out of potentially hazardous situations.

iRage · January 28, 2015

On 1/28/2015 at 11:34 AM, The Don said:
Well putting a car into neutral is very dangerous when going down a hill. You are actually advised not to disengage the gears while the car is moving period. As the driving instructors describe it, doing so means you will not have complete control of the car, as the drive itself provides some of the traction, and allows you to navigate out of potentially hazardous situations.

Isn't this the whole reason half these threads come up ? In most other countries you are given proper "training" on driving either a manual or an automatic (and in the case of Japan you can go to the DMV and get formal instruction on driving a Hybrid) and get licensed to drive the same (lets not even get in to the whole topic of improper education of road markings/signs/laws/etc..).

I do agree with The Don on the Start Stop thing though; people do claim to get some pretty decent mileage than without it (the same car with it turned off). Tried it with my normal Corolla wagon but stopped as it was a damn pain. Then I a rental which had SS...that didn't go to well either because I have a bad habit of playing with the steering wheels when I get bored which kicked in the engine again....

Just to be on topic and giving the OP the benefit of the doubt; no don't shift in to neutral in your A/T (unless extreme circumstances like in the article you referred to).