Help Me To Recognize Whether It Is A Fault Or Just The Car's Nature

alpha17 · March 18, 2016

Hello everybody,

I'm in a doubt since yesterday whether there is a problem in my engine.i got a chance to drive my friend's 2010 axio.i put it in the sport mode and rushed and i was truely amazed by it's performance.and there was 4 people in the car.but the acceleration is simply amazing.what i noticed is my 121 having the same engine is much slower.i know i got the 4spd auto while axio got cvt.and also 121 is lighter by nearly 100kgs.i noticed mine lacks power when overtaking.one thing that i noticed was when sometimes (for fun) floor the pedal to the end the gear changes in 4.5-5k rpm.i doesnt go upto 6k rpm.only when i put to L and then to 2 only it goes up to 6.5k rpm.i've seen here in AL some members have mentioned that 121 can accelerate faster than axio.but yesterday i clearly saw the opposite thing.anyway is it just the nature of the 121 (becoz axio got cvt) or there is a fault in mine's engine.here is my car's status

-done 130000kms(axio is 72000km and it is hired for sl army)

-did engine tune up and trans oil change in 97000km

-maf sensor is not cleaned since the tune up

What should i do now or its just the nature???experts plz help me.....

hrm · March 18, 2016

I theory CVTs should have more acceleration than normal autos.

sathyajithj99 · March 18, 2016

Hello everybody,
I'm in a doubt since yesterday whether there is a problem in my engine.i got a chance to drive my friend's 2010 axio.i put it in the sport mode and rushed and i was truely amazed by it's performance.and there was 4 people in the car.but the acceleration is simply amazing.what i noticed is my 121 having the same engine is much slower.i know i got the 4spd auto while axio got cvt.and also 121 is lighter by nearly 100kgs.i noticed mine lacks power when overtaking.one thing that i noticed was when sometimes (for fun) floor the pedal to the end the gear changes in 4.5-5k rpm.i doesnt go upto 6k rpm.only when i put to L and then to 2 only it goes up to 6.5k rpm.i've seen here in AL some members have mentioned that 121 can accelerate faster than axio.but yesterday i clearly saw the opposite thing.anyway is it just the nature of the 121 (becoz axio got cvt) or there is a fault in mine's engine.here is my car's status

-done 130000kms(axio is 72000km and it is hired for sl army)

-did engine tune up and trans oil change in 97000km

-maf sensor is not cleaned since the tune up

What should i do now or its just the nature???experts plz help me.....

Been there :smilie_liebe9:

Uditha88 · March 18, 2016

cvt + everything newer than 121. parts+technology

not good to compare....

Ruslan · March 18, 2016

Hello everybody,
I'm in a doubt since yesterday whether there is a problem in my engine.i got a chance to drive my friend's 2010 axio.i put it in the sport mode and rushed and i was truely amazed by it's performance.and there was 4 people in the car.but the acceleration is simply amazing.what i noticed is my 121 having the same engine is much slower.i know i got the 4spd auto while axio got cvt.and also 121 is lighter by nearly 100kgs.i noticed mine lacks power when overtaking.one thing that i noticed was when sometimes (for fun) floor the pedal to the end the gear changes in 4.5-5k rpm.i doesnt go upto 6k rpm.only when i put to L and then to 2 only it goes up to 6.5k rpm.i've seen here in AL some members have mentioned that 121 can accelerate faster than axio.but yesterday i clearly saw the opposite thing.anyway is it just the nature of the 121 (becoz axio got cvt) or there is a fault in mine's engine.here is my car's status

-done 130000kms(axio is 72000km and it is hired for sl army)

-did engine tune up and trans oil change in 97000km

-maf sensor is not cleaned since the tune up

What should i do now or its just the nature???experts plz help me.....

Even though Axio and Corolla (121) share the same Engine (1NZ-FE), most of the components in the Axio is totally different, for example Injectors, Head, ECU Map is totally different than previous Gen corolla. added CVT to that list you'll get a totally different car.

sathyajithj99 · March 18, 2016

I've driven both these cars(1500cc ) and when it comes to power or acceleration, I haven't felt much difference except for the smooth gear shifting of the axio due to CVT gear box.What is the engine capacity of the 121 you mentioned? If it is 1300cc, what you've experienced is quite understandable.

Edited March 18, 2016 by sathyajithj99

alpha17 · March 18, 2016

It's. A 1500cc 121

alpha17 · March 18, 2016

I've driven both these cars(1500cc ) and when it comes to power or acceleration, I haven't felt much difference except for the smooth gear shifting of the axio due to CVT gear box.What is the engine capacity of the 121 you mentioned? If it is 1300cc, what you've experienced is quite understandable.</p></blockquote>

Mine is a 1500cc mate...have u experienced the same thing???

Edited March 18, 2016 by DhoRK

alpha17 · March 18, 2016

What i experienced was quite strange.ok lets say axio's got cvt and newer parts.with four grown ups in the car and weights more than a 121....is it the time for a tune up and injector clean and auto tranny oil change again???

alpha17 · March 18, 2016

What i experienced was quite strange.ok lets say axio's got cvt and newer parts.with four grown ups in the car and weights more than a 121....is it the time for a tune up and injector clean and auto tranny oil change again???

sathyajithj99 · March 18, 2016

I've driven both these cars(1500cc ) and when it comes to power or acceleration, I haven't felt much difference except for the smooth gear shifting of the axio due to CVT gear box.What is the engine capacity of the 121 you mentioned? If it is 1300cc, what you've experienced is quite understandable.
Mine is a 1500cc mate...have u experienced the same thing???

As I said in my previous post, I didn't experience much difference in 121 and axio when it comes to acceleration or power, except axio had smooth gear shifting compared to the 121.

I don't know whether you're 121 is having an issue or not, but you mentioned last ATF change was on 97 k and now the mileage is 130k. So it is better to change ATF.

Edited March 18, 2016 by sathyajithj99

alpha17 · March 18, 2016

I'm in a doubt how could there be much difference as both cars carry same horsepower and nearly same torque..then there should be a fault in my engine....i notice when overtaking its not as good as before.i've driven 30000kms after engine tune up and tranny oil changeand maf sensor cleaning.is it the time for a tune up????

sathyajithj99 · March 18, 2016

In a previous thread posted by you in 2012, you've said you changed ATF at 95 k ?

Anyway it doesn't matter. Better to check it with your garage guy if you feel something is not ok.

Edited March 18, 2016 by sathyajithj99

alpha17 · March 18, 2016

Yap that is correct...it should be 95k.i didnt remember exactly.

Jor-el · March 18, 2016

Totally irrelevant to the post but I was wondering if anyone has driven and compared the 1500CC axio and the 1600CC LanEX? is there a noticeable difference in acceleration?

I have driven the lan but not the axio. EX felt way better than my CS3

alpha17 · March 18, 2016

I'm kind of crazy bro....axio is considerably faster.amazing for a 1.5l motor.not fast as a race car.but when my friend drove it,he floored the pedal and it rocks.pretty amazed.he's a brutal driver.he tried to overtake a car when we are going over 100kmh but a lorry came from the other side.

So he suddenly turned back to our lane without even applying brakes.it really handled well.

alpha17 · March 18, 2016

Gotta own an axio luxel somehow.....i wonder how it would perform as a family car with a 1.8l motor......

Edited March 18, 2016 by DhoRK

Davy · March 18, 2016

Totally irrelevant to the post but I was wondering if anyone has driven and compared the 1500CC axio and the 1600CC LanEX? is there a noticeable difference in acceleration?
I have driven the lan but not the axio. EX felt way better than my CS3

I have driven a manual 1.6L EX GLS and I would like to quote something that trinity said some time back to describe the comparison:

No corolla is better than a Lancer. Period!

As for OP's concern, you have answered your own question in the original post by describing the major differences between the two cars.

hrm · March 19, 2016

I'm kind of crazy bro....axio is considerably faster.amazing for a 1.5l motor.not fast as a race car.but when my friend drove it,he floored the pedal and it rocks.pretty amazed.he's a brutal driver.he tried to overtake a car when we are going over 100kmh but a lorry came from the other side.
So he suddenly turned back to our lane without even applying brakes.it really handled well.

I remember a video posted about Nissan CVT technology describes an exact same scenario. As soon as you take your put off gas CVT will decelerate the car and pretty advantageous when you take corners in speed as well.

DVT · March 20, 2016

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Edited March 20, 2016 by DVT

sathyajithj99 · March 20, 2016

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I remember a video posted about Nissan CVT technology describes an exact same scenario. As soon as you take your put off gas CVT will decelerate the car and pretty advantageous when you take corners in speed as well.

I guess you reffered to this video

Yes, it is true. When I drive out of the city limits and maintain a constant speed like 80kmph, even the road is winding, I barely have to use the brakes at the bends.

Edited March 21, 2016 by sathyajithj99

hrm · March 20, 2016

Yeah that's the one.

The Stig · March 21, 2016

Totally irrelevant to the post but I was wondering if anyone has driven and compared the 1500CC axio and the 1600CC LanEX? is there a noticeable difference in acceleration?
I have driven the lan but not the axio. EX felt way better than my CS3

Ohhhhhh hell nooo! Ex is far superior in every other aspect with the exception of fuel economy. It also has most torque at low end from any Japanese sedan I have driven.