Doctors Car Pass

[YALA]

there is only one way im going to get affected if they force us to remove the club stickers and that the security at ssc not letting me put my vehicle in...thats until they realize its illegal now to place stickers on the front..

[Kavvz]

  Komisiripala said:

Surely the answer then, Sylvia, is not to Harass those who actually need the pass?

  nadisha said:

Superb..!!! So I will not be able to use my car pass. Just great for my on-calls.

Oh come on, what you guys can't make it into work without a pass?! Please...

Edited November 5, 2013 by Kavvz

[Hoonigan]

I also gave way to a Prado with the blue and red blinkers in the dash on the Negombo-Colombo road. To this day I thought it was a police vehicle. What.The.F#ck?!?!?! People do that now??

[Komisiripala]

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Oh come on, what you guys can't make it into work without a pass?! <em class='bbc'>Please...</em> </p></blockquote>

Govt hospitals are haphazard constructions, begun a good 80+ years ago and then mushroomed out of proportion and without any sane planning at the whims of hospital directors who's common sense is inversely proportional to their a-level results. In short, parking is at an absolute premium.

This is where the pass shows it's only true purpose: to let our vehicles in and keep the car park space free of others. So how's a security guy to know without a pass? Sure, I know all the guys at work by name and they know my car a mile away, but what about joe Toyota in his vios? What about when I go to nhsl? Am I to prove my identity to the secca there and cause a traffic jam while he goes through my credentials?

So you see, despite it being bastardized in so many ways, our car pass DOES actually serve one purpose!!

Edited November 5, 2013 by Komisiripala

[Rumesh88]

  On 11/5/2013 at 6:23 AM, Komisiripala said:

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Oh come on, what you guys can't make it into work without a pass?! <em class='bbc'>Please...</em> </p></blockquote>

Govt hospitals are haphazard constructions, begun a good 80+ years ago and then mushroomed out of proportion and without any sane planning at the whims of hospital directors who's common sense is inversely proportional to their a-level results. In short, parking is at an absolute premium.

This is where the pass shows it's only true purpose: to let our vehicles in and keep the car park space free of others. So how's a security guy to know without a pass? Sure, I know all the guys at work by name and they know my car a mile away, but what about joe Toyota in his vios? What about when I go to nhsl? Am I to prove my identity to the secca there and cause a traffic jam while he goes through my credentials?

So you see, despite it being bastardized in so many ways, our car pass DOES actually serve one purpose!!

Come to think of what you said above I think the same applies almost word to word for lawyers as well (80+ old buildings etc). I do not think these lawyers will give into police demands without a fight because they too need to enter and park at different courts. As I said before this is just an ad hoc measure during the upcoming CHOGM season and will die out afterwards.

[Crosswind]

  On 11/5/2013 at 6:23 AM, Komisiripala said:

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Oh come on, what you guys can't make it into work without a pass?! <em class='bbc'>Please...</em> </p></blockquote>

Govt hospitals are haphazard constructions, begun a good 80+ years ago and then mushroomed out of proportion and without any sane planning at the whims of hospital directors who's common sense is inversely proportional to their a-level results. In short, parking is at an absolute premium.

This is where the pass shows it's only true purpose: to let our vehicles in and keep the car park space free of others. So how's a security guy to know without a pass? Sure, I know all the guys at work by name and they know my car a mile away, but what about joe Toyota in his vios? What about when I go to nhsl? Am I to prove my identity to the secca there and cause a traffic jam while he goes through my credentials?

So you see, despite it being bastardized in so many ways, our car pass DOES actually serve one purpose!!

actually, doctor's car pass is not just a parking permit but it is also meant to give priority in traffic. in fact, that is the law. doctors (and other emergency staff, such as firemen) actually have priority over other traffic. the trouble with the system is the lack of uniformity in the passes. every hospital issues their own pass. bloody pharmacist's association has a pass that looks similar to doctors' pass. medical reps have their own version of it... and any tom, dick or harry can scan a doctor's pass and use it themselves...

to my knowledge, GMOA is trying to create a uniform pass to all doctors, which is a great idea. but what's not great about this idea is it will only apply to government doctors, which means doctors who are exclusively practicing in the private sector wil be discriminated this way. even if you like it or not, there are certain treatements and surgeries in this country that can only be done in private hospitals without waiting for decades...

[kr42]

Does anyone know the exact details of the gazette notification?

I contacted the DMT in the morning requesting that info but the gentlemen who spoke said he cannot remember the exact details as this was introduced sometime back.

[bart simpson]

I suppose everyone who needs the permit for parking purposes just needs to laminate, keep it in the glove box and bring it out when needed. I know it is a hassle, but should not be too bad.

[kush]

  On 11/5/2013 at 9:03 AM, bart simpson said:

I suppose everyone who needs the permit for parking purposes just needs to laminate, keep it in the glove box and bring it out when needed. I know it is a hassle, but should not be too bad.

Actually this make sense, I have been practicing this for the last so many years as morons in my office issued me only on pass for two vehicles. (they must be thinking that I might turn up at office driving both vehicles)

[Kavvz]

  Crosswind said:

actually, doctor's car pass is not just a parking permit but it is also meant to give priority in traffic. in fact, that is the law. doctors (and other emergency staff, such as firemen) actually have priority over other traffic. the trouble with the system is the lack of uniformity in the passes. every hospital issues their own pass. bloody pharmacist's association has a pass that looks similar to doctors' pass. medical reps have their own version of it... and any tom, dick or harry can scan a doctor's pass and use it themselves...

Is that a common misconception or is that legally legislated (Gazetted)? I did the whole google thing, but couldn't find anything substantial out of Sri Lanka that states that doctors, policemen, nurses or any other first responders have priority over traffic other than when in a designated emergency vehicle that has its siren and flashers on.

I did however find some juicy stuff from England, the US and Canada that suggest that they don't in those countries. These little tidbits included the mad story of a cop who got such a hard on when a doctor roared by at subsonic speeds, that he followed the bugger all the way to the hospital and gave him a speeding ticket in the hospital parking lot!

Edited November 5, 2013 by Kavvz

[Kavvz]

  Crosswind said:

to my knowledge, GMOA is trying to create a uniform pass to all doctors, which is a great idea. but what's not great about this idea is it will only apply to government doctors, which means doctors who are exclusively practicing in the private sector wil be discriminated this way. even if you like it or not, there are certain treatements and surgeries in this country that can only be done in private hospitals without waiting for decades...

That was done I think: on the 12th of June 2013?

[Komisiripala]

I don't think it's gazetted either. We have an arcane law of having an ambulance pick us up from home if accommodation can't be provided. Most of us with half a heart just drive there at night.

Ambulance to come to my house: 15-20 minutes

Honda to CSTH: 4-5 minutes.

[Kavvz]

  Komisiripala said:

Govt hospitals are haphazard constructions, begun a good 80+ years ago and then mushroomed out of proportion and without any sane planning at the whims of hospital directors who's common sense is inversely proportional to their a-level results. In short, parking is at an absolute premium.

This is where the pass shows it's only true purpose: to let our vehicles in and keep the car park space free of others. So how's a security guy to know without a pass? Sure, I know all the guys at work by name and they know my car a mile away, but what about joe Toyota in his vios? What about when I go to nhsl? Am I to prove my identity to the secca there and cause a traffic jam while he goes through my credentials?

So you see, despite it being bastardized in so many ways, our car pass DOES actually serve one purpose!!

But still, parking at work is essentially a perk and not a requirement. Besides, as someone pointed out, despite it having to be removed from the windscreen the parking pass is still valid; meaning it can be displayed as required to get into parking areas, as well as to wrangle your way out of the odd speeding ticket

Edited November 5, 2013 by Kavvz

[Kavvz]

  On 11/5/2013 at 7:41 AM, Crosswind said:

actually, doctor's car pass is not just a parking permit but it is also meant to give priority in traffic. in fact, that is the law. doctors (and other emergency staff, such as firemen) actually have priority over other traffic. the trouble with the system is the lack of uniformity in the passes. every hospital issues their own pass. bloody pharmacist's association has a pass that looks similar to doctors' pass. medical reps have their own version of it... and any tom, dick or harry can scan a doctor's pass and use it themselves...

to my knowledge, GMOA is trying to create a uniform pass to all doctors, which is a great idea. but what's not great about this idea is it will only apply to government doctors, which means doctors who are exclusively practicing in the private sector wil be discriminated this way. even if you like it or not, there are certain treatements and surgeries in this country that can only be done in private hospitals without waiting for decades...

  On 11/5/2013 at 1:13 PM, Kavvz said:

Is that a common misconception or is that legally legislated (Gazetted)? I did the whole google thing, but couldn't find anything substantial out of Sri Lanka that states that doctors, policemen, nurses or any other first responders have priority over traffic other than when in a designated emergency vehicle that has its siren and flashers on.

I did however find some juicy stuff from England, the US and Canada that suggest that they don't in those countries. These little tidbits included the mad story of a cop who got such a hard on when a doctor roared by at subsonic speeds, that he followed the bugger all the way to the hospital and gave him a speeding ticket in the hospital parking lot!

  On 11/5/2013 at 1:32 PM, Komisiripala said:

I don't think it's gazetted either. We have an arcane law of having an ambulance pick us up from home if accommodation can't be provided. Most of us with half a heart just drive there at night.

Ambulance to come to my house: 15-20 minutes

Honda to CSTH: 4-5 minutes.

That legal requirement to have an ambulance pick you up as needed, does support the fact that first responders don't have the right of way through traffic other than when in a designated emergency vehicle.

It kinda makes sense to send out an ambulance as needed though too; for despite you being able to clock in way faster under your own steam, it'd be unreasonable to expect that from all responders. Someone else may take twice as long to come in or worse not be able to come in at all; for what if the car broke down or there was no access to a car at that particular time etc.

I don't suppose you remember details or any reference points to that gazette / law requiring an ambulance to be sent out do you? The government press site is such a pig to search through. There's no way anyone is finding anything there unless one has a 'baath mulla' and water at hand....

Edited November 5, 2013 by Kavvz

[nadisha]

I would gladly come by an ambulance to attend to an emergency. definitely going to make me feel better about my self. Only problem is that it takes about an hour to arrange an ambulance in normal circumstances.

Edited November 5, 2013 by nadisha

[Komisiripala]

What he said! By the time the ambulance is arranged and sent, it's too late! Ideally on call medicos should have proper night accommodation/dinner etc. that's how it's done int he prove te sector and anywhere abroad. Nobody should be expected to drive/be driven from home in an emergency. Looking at this from a patients view I mean.

But that's a whole other can of worms men. If you see the accommodation Vailable at Kalubowila you'll jump in that same ambulance and run the other way sirens blaring!

[liya]

Very good! Car passes should only be issued to politicians and malaka silva only. Doctors, engineers and academics and any other person who has passed above the grade 8 should be made to walk! Ambulances must only be used for going behind politicians and their offspirngs convoys, to attend to them when they get in to brawls in night clubs. Rules are for lesser people. Down with education!

[nadisha]

  On 11/6/2013 at 4:35 AM, Komisiripala said:

What he said! By the time the ambulance is arranged and sent, it's too late! Ideally on call medicos should have proper night accommodation/dinner etc. that's how it's done int he prove te sector and anywhere abroad. Nobody should be expected to drive/be driven from home in an emergency. Looking at this from a patients view I mean. But that's a whole other can of worms men. If you see the accommodation Vailable at Kalubowila you'll jump in that same ambulance and run the other way sirens blaring!

Well said komi...

Not only there I think almost every where the accommodation is the same. Don't know what will happen with the newly registered car pass......

[Pericles]

I'd chime in to say, there was a time I had a docs pass on my car due to the FSP, and it didn't let me get away with Traffic shenanigans. The main bliss was parking in the docs parking while waiting for her, since she had no concept of time and the normal parking is generally a paid affair!

Edited November 6, 2013 by Pericles

[Sylvi]

Members,

What nadisha had mentioned is correct. Due to road traffic delays the patient will die before Doctor goes to rescue.

Doctors do this noble service to our people, They have to travel as fast as they can for an emergency.

With a Doctors pass, waning signal light Blue or Green.This facility government must give to doctors

Warning lights are used only by Police, Ambulance and fire rescue emergency services on our S L roads.

Specialist doctors do consultation in two or three different centers (private Hospital's) after their government hospital duty.

Government have to consider to do necessary adjustments to motor traffic act enable Doctors to use a priority traveling system.

Few years back,could not enter to a private hospital because this hospital is situated on very narrow road both sides vehicles were parked,

Row of vehicles to enter to that hospital during specialists consulting hours. Breathless patient death was unavoidable,due to traffic block on that road.

Later this was informed to Police, they allowed to park only on one line and there was a police constable on the road during morning and evening time

I have seen in most first class countries only emergency services and law enforcement officers use emergency lights.

Developing Sri lanka have to take necessary steps to do this, so that other countries also will follow this for Doctors.

I do not think Doctors will miss use this facility, if the government legally permit this only for an emergency.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

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Edited November 6, 2013 by Sylvi

[Pericles]

  On 11/6/2013 at 10:32 PM, Sylvi said:

I do not think Doctors will miss use this facility, if the government legally permit this only for an emergency.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

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People misuse the word Dr. in this country. Ex Dr. Silva.

[Sylvi]

  On 11/7/2013 at 8:49 AM, Pericles said:

People misuse the word Dr. in this country. Ex Dr. Silva.

Moderator Pericles,

I do not know you are referring to present 2^nd big boss.

Yes the pass is missused if it is so. Dr. Silva's son started first unwanted brawl in my building club, which was Wel festival day night.

CTCV recordings are there he took a fire arm and pointed to unknown few chaps as usual, who were more close to big Boss.

Few days later at a cloths outlet, he got assaulted.

Sylvi Wijesinghe.

[AbeysinghE]

Good move..remove all the stickers including the revenue license...and make the windscreen clean. Specially the useless club membership stickers....LOL

[The Don]

To be honest I find the idea of ambulances picking up doctors a little silly. Ambulances are equipped with special equipment to save peoples lives and keep them alive while they are being transferred.

To use them as a mode of transport seems to be a waste of precious resources.

I mean we need to have a mechanism of transporting hospital staff in emergencies, and those vehicles should have the same privileges as ambulances in traffic but.... ambulances... not so sure . I might be talking about a utopia of course!

[Komisiripala]

There are ambulances dedicated for staff transport. Only lights and a seat