Lancer EX Running Repairs and Maintenance

[Kavvz]

18 hours ago, trinity said:

Anyways I’m planning to first do the suspension repair and then replace the tires now. Otherwise I’m gonna have to align the wheels twice. 

Wait a minute: You need to get an alignment after replacing the tires? Why ? You'll need to balance the wheels after new tires, but you won't necessarily have to get an alignment done....

Edited September 20, 2020 by Kavvz

[trinity]

3 hours ago, Kavvz said:

Wait a minute: You need to get an alignment after replacing the tires? Why ? You'll need to balance the wheels after new tires, but you won't necessarily have to get an alignment done....

You are correct, sorry for the misinformed post. When I replace tires I usually do an alignment as well (in addition to the balancing of wheels) just so I don’t have to worry about going to the tire shop for another 5000kms. Mere for time saving.

Maybe back in my mind I was having this thought when I typed that post. Didn’t occur to me that it’s misleading and not relevant. 

Thank you for pointing that out @Kavvz.

Much appreciate it ?.  

[Kavvz]

20 minutes ago, trinity said:

You are correct, sorry for the misinformed post. When I replace tires I usually do an alignment as well (in addition to the balancing of wheels) just so I don’t have to worry about going to the tire shop for another 5000kms. Mere for time saving.

 

Ah! Totally makes sense...?

[Davy]

Sharing this information on the EX thread as requested by @trinity on this thread.

On 9/22/2020 at 12:38 AM, trinity said:

Not sure this is the same issue but I’ve experienced something of similar nature.

This was when I bought the EX, AC worked fine in the first day and I noticed A/C dropping during city run on the next day. 

My first observation was that when driven in very hot conditions (like in city traffic) for a while, the compressor clutch stopped engaging.

when this was referred to my AC mechanic, he instantly identified the problem. The solution was to remove a metal o-ring from the compressor clutch assembly. He said that due to metal expansion when getting  heated , clutch moves further away from the coil thus preventing the magnetic bond.

He further said that in time as the compressor wears off, this happens. Removing the metal ring solved the issue and it never surfaced.

I don’t know whether something of this sort causing your problem as well. 

Reading your symptoms, It seems the culprit is the compressor. So better to start from there.

However replacing the cooler was a total unnecessary thing in my opinion....

 

On 9/22/2020 at 12:55 AM, Hyaenidae said:

Did this modification affect the overall performance of the AC system? 

How did the AC of the ASX fare compared to the EX? 

 

On 9/22/2020 at 1:20 AM, trinity said:

It’s  not a modification per say, fairly a simple fix. As far as I can say, the AC system works as it intended to work. 

The ASX has auto climate control. Didn’t see much of a different between both vehicles in AC wise. However in comfort, power, handling and overall driving pleasure wise, the Lancer is way ahead of the ASX. 

Driving that vehicle made me question the value addition the ASX or any other mid range SUV could give over a Sedan like ours. I don’t see any good point over the sedan when compared those vehicles. Just pure waste of money. 

I would pick a Lancer EX or a Mazda 6 over any mid range SUV at this juncture. 

 

On 9/22/2020 at 1:27 AM, Hyaenidae said:

Well that was a good tidbit to know in any case, Unimo would've suggested a complete replacement of the compressor for sure

 

 

On 9/22/2020 at 1:37 AM, trinity said:

Ha ha definitely, this cost me just 300 rupees.. 

 

On 9/22/2020 at 1:39 AM, Hyaenidae said:

He replaced the removed metal ring with a new one, right?

 

On 9/22/2020 at 1:41 AM, trinity said:

Nope, apparently there are few rings. He just removed one. He said that in design it comes in this way to accommodate this fix. 

 

On 9/22/2020 at 1:49 AM, trinity said:

Quick google search prompt me the below article which explains the process.

 

https://gmtnation.com/forums/threads/air-conditioner-clutch-shim-removal.17403/

 

On 9/22/2020 at 1:56 AM, Hyaenidae said:

 

The workshop manual itself explains this process:

http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/lancer_x/online/Service_Manual/2010/55/html/M155200460207500ENG.HTM

However it says "use shims to adjust the air gap to the standard value of 0.25-0.5mm"  

And here be the shims (and replacement nuts and snap rings! just $8 for the whole kit)

 

So it seems your mechanic was right. You can add/remove/replace shims until the gap is 0.25-0.5mm, that's why those are there for

 

[trinity]

@K.o.N.o.S need a small favour, sometime back you replaced the lower arm bushes and front stabiliser links. I'm also planning to do the same repair soon and ordered the parts from Partsouq. However just noticed that they've not included the stabiliser links to the shipment for some reason. Before placing an online order again, thought to give a try sourcing the part locally.

I want to know, how did you manage to find the exact replacement? did you remove the part and took it as a sample or you just bought it just by mentioning the details. Also, do you remember which brand it was?

Thanks a lot.

Edited January 19, 2021 by trinity

[K.o.N.o.S]

On 1/19/2021 at 6:56 AM, trinity said:

@K.o.N.o.S need a small favour, sometime back you replaced the lower arm bushes and front stabiliser links. I'm also planning to do the same repair soon and ordered the parts from Partsouq. However just noticed that they've not included the stabiliser links to the shipment for some reason. Before placing an online order again, thought to give a try sourcing the part locally.

I want to know, how did you manage to find the exact replacement? did you remove the part and took it as a sample or you just bought it just by mentioning the details. Also, do you remember which brand it was?

Thanks a lot.

@trinity Just seeing this. So I removed the stabilizer links at my local mechanic and took a sample to locate the exact replacement.Unfortunately I do not remember which brand was it. I do have the old samples with me. But I guess you are too far away to collect them as I am pretty much based in kandy now. Happy to help you out further if required.

[trinity]

7 hours ago, K.o.N.o.S said:

@trinity Just seeing this. So I removed the stabilizer links at my local mechanic and took a sample to locate the exact replacement.Unfortunately I do not remember which brand was it. I do have the old samples with me. But I guess you are too far away to collect them as I am pretty much based in kandy now. Happy to help you out further if required.

Hi machang, that’s alright. 
Pastsouq had excluded this item cuz they’ve ran out of stock. However, next day I’ve received a mail from them informing that the parts are back in stock.

So I reordered them. Brand - 555. Didn’t order a genuine part cuz that’s too bloody expensive. 555 is a good substitute. 

Rest of the parts I’ve ordered genuine. Will update the thread once they go in to the car. 
Cheers!!!

[trinity]

07 Replacing Lower Arm Bushes and Stabilizer Links

This repair was done back in February 2021. Was neck deep with family commitments and work so never had time to update the thread. Keeping things short, below are the details of parts and prices.

Lower Arm Bushes (Genuine) - 15.05 USD each Total 30.10 USD (@195 LKR) Part No. 4013A426

Stabiliser Bush (Genuine) - 3.72 USD each Total 7.44 USD (@195 LKR) Part No. 4056A049

Stabilizer Bar (FEBEST) - 07.95 USD each Total 15.90 USD (@195 LKR) 0523PC

These were ordered from https://partsouq.com . Parts came in as two shipments. Though I was able to save plenty with regard to prices of the parts, I've got myself screwed royally with the customs. 

Lower arm bushes and  front brake clip kit (Will provide details of this in the next post) shipment cost 69.69 USD including the shipping cost. That's just Rs.13,600/- which is not a bad price for genuine parts. But they taxed me Rs.7,800/- for these. Then the stabiliser bars came at USD 33.95 (LKR 6,600/-) and got taxed Rs.4,100/-.

So the total price for these parts went up to Rs.32,100/-. I'm not gonna say anything about this, you are free to come to your own conclusion on the final outcome.

Parts were fixed at my usual mechanics place. He charged me Rs.4,500/- including lathe work.

New Parts

Lower Arms

Old Stabilizer Link

New Stabilizer Link installed

Stabilizer bush installed.

 

[trinity]

08 Battery Replacement

Though this is not a repair, I'll note this down for sake of record keeping.

The old battery had been installed by the previous owner back in August 2018. Its an Amaron one. Last march car suddenly died at 'Cafe on the 5th' blocking couple of cars which were parked in front of mine. I stopped there to pick up some snacks before starting a journey to Matara after office. Car started without any issue when I took her out of the office and the restaurant is not far from where I work. For some reason, it didn't fire up. 

Thereafter I managed to jumpstart the car with the help of a office mate who came to rescue. Went to the Amaron local dealer at Maligawatte on the following day and they informed that there's a fault in the battery and offered a replacement after a discount. My battery warranty had two year one to one replacement warranty plus price reduction for the next 12 months after elapsing of two years. I only had few months left. 

All in all, they charged Rs.11,000/- odd amount for the new battery after their discount and the warranty reduction.

[trinity]

09 Replacing Rocker Cover Gasket

When the lower arm bushes were installed, I was told that there's an oil leak from the rocker cover. So the gasket needed to be replaced. Got it done couple of days back at the agent.

Rocker Cover Gasket - Rs.4,110/17

Labour Charges - Rs.1,380/-

[Ruslan]

35 minutes ago, trinity said:

07 Replacing Lower Arm Bushes and Stabilizer Links

This repair was done back in February 2021. Was neck deep with family commitments and work so never had time to update the thread. Keeping things short, below are the details of parts and prices.

Lower Arm Bushes (Genuine) - 15.05 USD each Total 30.10 USD (@195 LKR) Part No. 4013A426

Stabiliser Bush (Genuine) - 3.72 USD each Total 7.44 USD (@195 LKR) Part No. 4056A049

Stabilizer Bar (FEBEST) - 07.95 USD each Total 15.90 USD (@195 LKR) 0523PC

These were ordered from https://partsouq.com . Parts came in as two shipments. Though I was able to save plenty with regard to prices of the parts, I've got myself screwed royally with the customs. 

Lower arm bushes and  front brake clip kit (Will provide details of this in the next post) shipment cost 69.69 USD including the shipping cost. That's just Rs.13,600/- which is not a bad price for genuine parts. But they taxed me Rs.7,800/- for these. Then the stabiliser bars came at USD 33.95 (LKR 6,600/-) and got taxed Rs.4,100/-.

So the total price for these parts went up to Rs.32,100/-. I'm not gonna say anything about this, you are free to come to your own conclusion on the final outcome.

Parts were fixed at my usual mechanics place. He charged me Rs.4,500/- including lathe work.

New Parts

Lower Arms

Old Stabilizer Link

New Stabilizer Link installed

Stabilizer bush installed.

 

Have you checked with Amayama Regarding parts?. With amayama you can opted to ship with EMS and if it get stuck with Customs you can talk your way out for a “reasonable” amount. Partsouq ships with aramex or DHL. Got down Expansion valve and other plastic bits which came directly to home from amayama.

[trinity]

3 hours ago, Ruslan said:

Have you checked with Amayama Regarding parts?. With amayama you can opted to ship with EMS and if it get stuck with Customs you can talk your way out for a “reasonable” amount. Partsouq ships with aramex or DHL. Got down Expansion valve and other plastic bits which came directly to home from amayama.

Actually no, this is the first time this happened to me. Previous instances everything were delivered without any taxation except for one time. That too happened when I ordered the timing belt and the tensioner to my Lancer CS. That time the tax was a very nominal amount . So I didn’t bother to think about it when I placed the order. However I agree that I should’ve given it a thought before ordering the parts. 
Thank you for sharing your experience, will surely consider it next time 😊.

[Someday]

Hi Trinity and Ruslan, I want to replace my timing belt for my CS. Thought of importing the timing belt and tension. Is any other part needed besides these two?

Would y'all recommend using partsouq or amayama for this to reduce custom charges and hassle of clearing them? 

[Hyaenidae]

30 minutes ago, Someday said:

Hi Trinity and Ruslan, I want to replace my timing belt for my CS. Thought of importing the timing belt and tension. Is any other part needed besides these two?

Would y'all recommend using partsouq or amayama for this to reduce custom charges and hassle of clearing them? 

Refer to https://forums.autolanka.com/topic/18754-my-new-ride-mistubishi-lancer-cs1-glx-at-yom-2007/?do=findComment&comment=329772

[Hyaenidae]

Not a "repair" per se but the car developed a slight rattle which was noticeable when going over rough patches of road. Turns out the plastic bit between the rear seat and the rear window is to blame. You can access that panel from the rear trunk, wedged a bit of sponge between the trunk roof and the panel and voila! no more rattle.

[trinity]

8 minutes ago, Hyaenidae said:

Not a "repair" per se but the car developed a slight rattle which was noticeable when going over rough patches of road. Turns out the plastic bit between the rear seat and the rear window is to blame. You can access that panel from the rear trunk, wedged a bit of sponge between the trunk roof and the panel and voila! no more rattle.

Mine too has that noise. Been searching for the source for a while now. Maybe it’s the same problem. I remember reading it in evolution forums sometime back also. 
 

Talking about noises, do you observe wind noise when going over 80? It comes from rear left window. It sounds like the window is not properly shut. It’s driving me nuts sometimes. 

[Hyaenidae]

17 minutes ago, trinity said:

Mine too has that noise. Been searching for the source for a while now. Maybe it’s the same problem. I remember reading it in evolution forums sometime back also. 
 

Talking about noises, do you observe wind noise when going over 80? It comes from rear left window. It sounds like the window is not properly shut. It’s driving me nuts sometimes. 

Tap on the middle of the plastic panel near the glass, if you can reproduce the rattle then it's the same problem. (Well, tap multiple places just to be sure, for me it was the middle so wedged the sponge closer to that place.) There are factory-fit noise absorbing sponges in that area but somehow they seem to be dislodged or some such

No wind noises to report though. The tyre noise is very noticeable when a window is open but gets down to manageable levels when windows are shut. Seems to be common to factory-fit Yokohama Advans.

Edited May 1, 2021 by Hyaenidae

[trinity]

10 Replacing front brake clip kit and calliper pins

I've replaced the front brake pads last year (details here). It was done at the agents. At that time recommended to replace the calliper pins and brake clip kit as they've worn out. As it was not a priority at that time, I only got the brake pads replaced. Later when I ordered the lower arms bushes I decided the buy the brake clip kit as well so that everything could be installed at once. 

Brake Clip Kit - USD 13.66 @ LKR 195 Part Number MR527673

However when placing the order, I've missed to order the calliper pins. Therefore, we couldn't install the clip kit when the lower arm bushes were installed.

These were installed at the agent during the last service.

Calliper Pins - 2,785.40

Calliper Pin removal lathe charges - 3,500/-

Now that these are installed, ride is much quieter as brake pads are properly held together. Before brake pads made noises when driven on rough roads.

[trinity]

11 Replacing Tires

The car came with four brand new 'Yokohama Advan' tires when I bought her in 2018. They've been installed at around a mileage of 100,000 Kms. The tires lasted about 50,000kms. By this time I was looking to buy a set of Good Year tires, but couldn't find them in the size (205.60.16) required for the car. This was during mid of last year. 

So I had to run another 10,000kms with badly worn out tires. As the car was driven in mostly city traffic, the risk was low but during rainy days I had to be extra careful.

Finally found four Good Year tires in last January. Cost 18,500.00 each (Very good price).

This was the state of old tires when they were removed.

I do not recommend running like this as its very dangerous.

While removing one front wheel, three wheel studs broke off. It was very unusual to happen but for some reason they just snapped like dried wood sticks. 

Luckily there was a nearby garage which had the replacement studs as well as a lathe to remove the broken half of the stud out of the lug nut. 

[trinity]

On 2/20/2020 at 5:12 PM, trinity said:

5.Rear Brake Cylinder Washer Replacement

After almost 9 years the washers of the rear brake cylinders had busted. I noticed a small reduction of brake oil level and asked the agent to check it while doing the wheel alignment as i know that the issue would be this. And  I was right.

Yesterday got the repair done at Unit#d Mot#rs - Orugodawatte.

Not going to post much details as all info is available in this post made by Hyundai  . However I was charged Rs.8,358/- for the job> Will check the bill when I get back home and update here.

Edit with the price details

Labor Cost -                                       3,450/-

Cup+Boot Kit  * 2 -                         2,677/78

Mitsubishi Genuine Brake Fluid - 1,611/30

 Vat -                                                    619/12

Total -                                               8,358/20

So in comparison to what @Hyaenidae paid, the labor cost is slightly higher but the parts are slightly cheaper. 

They've done a full brake oil flush as well. Wonder why it wasn't done when yours were replaced @Hyaenidae. 

The price difference is the brake fluid and the vat. 

Update on this, during the last service I was informed that the cylinders are leaking again. Just one year after spending 8k for this. f**k me!! However I've driven 27,000kms since the repair. Now the car is at 167,000 and this has been done at 140,000kms. As most of these kilometres were driven in city the brakes are employed exorbitantly. So I presume under regular driving conditions these would've lasted much more.

Anyways, there's no repairing now. I need to replace the entire cylinders. These are expensive at the agent and even expensive to import. If any of you have a source who has these, I appreciate the heads up. Gonna run like this as the leakage is not severe. Eventually have to replace them.

@Hyaenidae& @K.o.N.o.S keep a close eye on your brake cylinders as well. You Never know when they go bust again.

[Ruslan]

5 hours ago, trinity said:

Update on this, during the last service I was informed that the cylinders are leaking again. Just one year after spending 8k for this. f**k me!! However I've driven 27,000kms since the repair. Now the car is at 167,000 and this has been done at 140,000kms. As most of these kilometres were driven in city the brakes are employed exorbitantly. So I presume under regular driving conditions these would've lasted much more.

Anyways, there's no repairing now. I need to replace the entire cylinders. These are expensive at the agent and even expensive to import. If any of you have a source who has these, I appreciate the heads up. Gonna run like this as the leakage is not severe. Eventually have to replace them.

@Hyaenidae& @K.o.N.o.S keep a close eye on your brake cylinders as well. You Never know when they go bust again.

I’ve learned this hard way as well.. replaced with repair kits 3 times but not sure it will last.. i think once the cylinder bore is damaged Repair kits wont last. Planning to replace them with Seiken Cylinders. Srikantha Motors (Agents for Seiken) has them. And they quoted me 2.5k or around each if i can remember correct.

Edited May 2, 2021 by Ruslan

[K.o.N.o.S]

7 hours ago, trinity said:

keep a close eye on your brake cylinders as well. You Never know when they go bust again.

Thanks for the Heads-up Mate. I myself too keeping a close eye on those cylinders. Cause last time when I replaced the brake cylinder washers agent advised me to replace cylinders as well. They quoted 17k (per cylinder) at that point. well I did not have a deep pocket hence only replaced the washers. since then car has done close to 5000kms and recently I did my service. I closely monitored and there was no leaks. @Hyaenidae I remember you tagged me in aftermarket brake cylinders on Ebay. @trinity try using Ebay route.

https://www.bremboparts.com/asiapacific/en/catalogue/hydraulic/A_12_397

Edited May 2, 2021 by K.o.N.o.S

[K.o.N.o.S]

@trinity @Davy @Hyaenidae Question for you guys. As you may know I am currently running with stock Lancer GT wheels ( 18" x 7", 5x114mm with 46mm offset). I am seriously thinking about getting some new wheels for the car. I am currently in love with the following which is pretty Bad A*S looking to my eye (or perhaps something similar). Wheel specs= (18" x 7.5", 5x114.3 with +45mm Offset). Question is will these fit my car without any space problems or without any other issues?

[iRage]

19 hours ago, K.o.N.o.S said:

@trinity @Davy @Hyaenidae Question for you guys. As you may know I am currently running with stock Lancer GT wheels ( 18" x 7", 5x114mm with 46mm offset). I am seriously thinking about getting some new wheels for the car. I am currently in love with the following which is pretty Bad A*S looking to my eye (or perhaps something similar). Wheel specs= (18" x 7.5", 5x114.3 with +45mm Offset). Question is will these fit my car without any space problems or without any other issues?

 

Came across this when looking for wheels for the Yaris. It has pics of Lancers (albeit US spec mostly) with wheel specs...

Seems like +45 will be a possibility...although when looking at the pics it does seem like some sizes will have some rubbing on the arch (and maybe even the strut...remember..it is usually advised you keep a minimum of 1cm,i.e. fingure width, clearance between tire and struts).

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09-ralliart-brakes-wheels-suspension/569311-official-wheels-tires-stance-photo-spec-thread-2.html

 

Edited May 5, 2021 by iRage

[K.o.N.o.S]

3 hours ago, iRage said:

Came across this when looking for wheels for the Yaris. It has pics of Lancers (albeit US spec mostly) with wheel specs...

Thanks @iRage for sharing. The link has some of the sickest wheels that I have seen on lancers. Also I noticed that in most cases rear fenders needed some work. However the wheel specs that I am considering has slight differences compared to what I have at the moment. So Yeah it's quite probable that those will fit in without any issues. Let's see, anyway I am going to dig deeper into this before I proceed.